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Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4023 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 19, 2017 12:56 AM
He said the DOJ have never told him to stop any investigation. You can tell the difference I am willing to bet. This kind of "little detail" can make or break a case Ive done it myselfIP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 79679 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 01:55 AM
Yes, the AG or DOJ--both who work directly for the POTUS. It would "be a big deal if it happened." You don't think it would be a big deal if the POTUS did it? It never happened. IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4023 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 19, 2017 02:23 AM
Not the point. Your story is as fake as what its calling fake... in fact sources insisting on anonymity to protect their hide are not necessarily false. But this doesn't deliver what you or it claims. They didn't ask and he didn't answer whether Trump asked him to stop it. Nor anyone else except the AG or any one from DOJ. So the memo story is not rebutted but yours is hollow. It may be that the source misspoke but we dont know that. Cancelling out the claim that the whole thing is faked by the Times. And yes, if DT did it, its a big deal.
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Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4023 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 19, 2017 03:02 AM
Its not clear yet IF there was such a memo...Comey Hasn't said there is, but someone who knows him supposedly has; andIF DT intended to persuade him or warn him off ... which so far is just a hypothesis by news writers; It IS a big f'ing deal. Quite possibly this little exchange is Comey setting that up as criteria; Even if technically the Prez (not the DOJ) has the right to do so (not established in that dialogue) he doesn't have the facts to do so on a legal basis and it makes him look like he's meddling without any basis for doing so. Because he likes Flynn is not proper cause. Even the DOJ.. for legal reasons.. were to advise their lack of belief in the investigation "to stop it for political reasons would be a very big deal" Just as possible Comey never wrote the memo Or never implied he felt DT was trying to pressure him but someone else is dramatizing what they heard. Sloppy reporting. He did try to intimidate Comey regarding "leaks".. And we can see that since he tweeted it! but Comey can't be fingered for this memo story and the Times can be blamed for sensationalism. And your linked piece is even worse in that department.. it claims the video shows something it doesn't. So it is telling people to read into Comey's testimony what isn't there. (What to think) We don't know that a perfectly honest source didn't speak to the Times and withheld identity to avoid retribution.. so some people will think its fact and others(likeDT) will call it fiction. So question.. If you think the Times is lying because their source isnt named.. why don't you apply the same criteria to DT? He uses "people say""good sources" etc all the time. Anonymous amorphous sources, right? I don't believe either of them without more evidence than that. And i certainly dont believe someone who tells me his video proves something that it doesnt. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10010 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 10:03 AM
http://theresurgent.com/i-know-one-of-the-sources/ IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 79679 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 10:21 AM
Someone read part if a supposed memo over the phone, and the media took that as truth. If President Trump coerced or intimidated Comey, he was obligated to report it. He obviously never saw that happen in his experience, whether it's the AG, the DOJ, the POTUS, or anyone else. Dems are quick to believe anything negative about President Trump despite the lack if evidence, because they are still in denial that Hillary lost.IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4023 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 19, 2017 12:03 PM
For sure. That's why the investigation is ongoing. And it's scope is expanding. But you don't know what's been going on behind the scenes so sorry to point out but youi are also quick to jump to conclusions that satisfy your bias. You also make statements as facts that are really suppositions, or like your article, misinterpretations.. Maybe he did report such. How would we know? To whom would he report ? Not the news. It wouldn't be general knowledge in a secret investigation would it? I believe the memos will be taken as exhibits, right? I remember your inability to approve of anything President Obama did. Or even to call him President. Don't you? All those insulting ways of identifying him and dismissing those who saw differently as Morons. Hmm? The Prez has stated that he is the worst treated politician in history. Truth or opinion? What about the lastPresident, Bush? Clinton? (Either one) what about how he himself treated Clinton and Obama? IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4023 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 19, 2017 12:32 PM
The investigation started long before DT got dragged into it. His protestations of persecution have made it look worse and his objections could be seen as attempts to influence the public and the outcome even if he doesn't obstruct the FBI in their work.Lets wait and see some facts, eh? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 79679 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 02:40 PM
Well, today a briefing shot down that Comey asked for any additional resources. One fake news story crashed and burned. IP: Logged |
Node Knowflake Posts: 2701 From: 2,021 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 02:59 PM
Not according to all sources. ^ guarded is the word that comes up most about Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein remarks.IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 10325 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 04:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Well, today a briefing shot down that Comey asked for any additional resources. One fake news story crashed and burned.
All he said was quote: I am not aware of any such request," he told the representatives.
He may have went further in the closed meeting of which neither you or I have privvy to. Guarded is a good word Node! http://finance.yahoo.com/news/role-model-deputy-attorney-general-164243783.html ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 10010 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 04:58 PM
[URL=http://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html[/URL] He admitted to obstructing justice. IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 10325 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 05:08 PM
Teasel. I looked at your link and true or not, it gave me a good laugh.You know it is something he would say if he thought it would be kept secret. quote: President Trump met with Russian officials at the White House last week. American journalists were barred, but Russia released photographs. Credit Russian Foreign Ministry WASHINGTON — President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting. “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” Mr. Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.” The conversation, during a May 10 meeting — the day after he fired Mr. Comey — reinforces the notion that Mr. Trump dismissed him primarily because of the bureau’s investigation into possible collusion between his campaign and Russian operatives. Mr. Trump said as much in one televised interview, but the White House has offered changing justifications for the firing.
 Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, did not dispute the account. http://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0 ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4023 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 19, 2017 08:53 PM
Sure sounds like he thinks firing Comey = dodging a bullet. Meanwhile Putin is laughing in his Stolchnaya and offering to tell us what our President said. But at last he didn't bow too low to a Saudi prince. Yet.. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 79679 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 19, 2017 11:35 PM
The fake news plays you like a fiddle. "...read to the New York Times by an American official" (i.e., "source") says it all.IP: Logged |
Catalina Knowflake Posts: 4023 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted May 20, 2017 12:30 AM
I agree something like that needs backup. Where are you quoting from? I am limited to a few NYT articles a month so links don't help me much."Credit Russian Foreign Minister Washington" sounds like a source to me. Is "very good sources tell me" (DT special go to) better somehow? How about "people say"? Is that fake news? But clearing or convicting HRC has nothing to do with this investigation. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 79679 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 20, 2017 01:15 AM
It's in Teasel's link above, which Juni quoted. BTW, the story from the Washington Compost about Comey's memo was from a paragraph read over the phone. No confirmation or attempt to validate it.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10010 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 20, 2017 07:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Teasel. I looked at your link and true or not, it gave me a good laugh.You know it is something he would say if he thought it would be kept secret.  [b]Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, did not dispute the account. http://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0 [/B]
I know, it was a "pot meet kettle" moment, when he called Comey a nut job. As other people online have pointed out, he has praised Putin and Kim Jong Un, and insulted the head of the FBI. How is he putting America first? Making America Gross Again. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10010 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 20, 2017 08:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by Catalina:
But at last he didn't bow too low to a Saudi prince. Yet..
http://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/865894455617900544 I don't know if that counts. Someone posted that he bowed, but the guy putting the collar over his head, was shorter than him. He has been a hypocrite where his wife and daughter are concerned, though. He vented about Michelle Obama not wearing a scarf in Saudi Arabia, and the women of his family, aren't wearing scarves.
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 10325 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 20, 2017 08:22 AM
Americans are playing the fiddle and Trump and crew are doing the dance. Spicer didn`t deny it. I saw/heard him defending this statement " I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” Indeed Cat, the Russians will also be playing the fiddle and telling all during the dance. ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 79679 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 20, 2017 10:11 AM
The only fiddles heard will be the Dems after President Trump is vindicated, and their cries in their safe spaces when their party is further decimated in 2018.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 10010 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 20, 2017 10:19 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: The only fiddles heard will be the Dems after President Trump is vindicated, and their cries in their safe spaces when their party is further decimated in 2018.
I don't know how you can come out with things like this, when your President constantly needs a "safe space". IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 79679 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 20, 2017 01:15 PM
The Dems invented the safe space. President Trump just gave them the excuse. Now they can pet kittens and play with clay at colleges across the nation instead of facing reality like grown-ups and accepting life like big boys and girls.IP: Logged |