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Randall
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posted June 20, 2017 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too bad, so sad, Ossoff!

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posted June 20, 2017 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted June 20, 2017 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, democrats ran 5 special House elections as "referendums" on Trump.

So, how did they do?

California 34th District
Democrats LOSE

Montana At Large Seat
Democrats LOSE

Kansas 4th District
Democrats LOSE

Georgia 6th District
Democrats LOSE

South Carolina 5th District
Democrats LOSE

Democrats are 0 for 5

Looks more like a Referendum..against democrats!

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posted June 20, 2017 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A preview of things to come in 2018.

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posted June 21, 2017 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
A preview of things to come in 2018.

nope.

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posted June 21, 2017 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol
Jimmy Gomez, Dem, took the 34th district easily..2 weeks ago. What are you talking about?

More cracker hack news?

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posted June 21, 2017 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the correction. I usually don't comment on foreign countries like California.

Here's the "corrected information.

Omaha Nebraska Mayoral Race
Democrats LOSE

Montana At Large Seat
Democrats LOSE

Kansas 4th District
Democrats LOSE

Georgia 6th District
Democrats LOSE

South Carolina 5th District
Democrats LOSE

Democrats are 0 for 5

Looks more like a Referendum..against democrats!

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posted June 21, 2017 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, did I forget to mention that the far left lunatic candidate in Georgia, Ossoff, spent about $25,000,000..$25 Million to Handel's $5 Million...and still LOST?

Ossoff outspent Handel 5 to 1...and still LOST.

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posted June 21, 2017 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
June 21, 2017
How'd that referendum on Trump work out?
Monica Showalter

The special election in the 6th district of Georgia was universally billed 'a high-stakes referendum on Trump' in all the much-hyped build-up coming from the left and its media allies. Not a local election, not a fluke election. A moment-of-truth Referendum On Trump.

After all, weren't President Trump's poll numbers down? Didn't the 'resistance' put on a mega-protest show and continue its tantrum in all the days-of-rage riots on college campuses? Wasn't President Trump engulfed in scandal for colluding with the Russians to win the 2016 election that was rightfully Hillary Clinton's? Weren't the leftists whispering "President Pence"?

Rubbing their mousy hands together with glee, it's pretty clear the left thought it had a certain victory in the bag with that "narrative" along with a perfect post-election analysis no matter what the Georgia voters thought about it.

Get a load of this now-comical pompouss pre-election analysis that ran earlier this week in the New York Times, (emphasis mine):

The hard-fought battle for Mr. Price’s seat in Atlanta’s northern reaches has not only become a financial arms race — by far the most expensive House contest in history — it has evolved into one of the most consequential special elections in decades.

Republicans, weighed down by Mr. Trump’s growing unpopularity, must demonstrate they can separate themselves from the president enough to hold suburban districts that only now are becoming battlegrounds.

And Democrats, facing a restive base hungry for victory after disappointing losses in Montana and Kansas, are under pressure to show they can notch something more than a moral victory in the sort of affluent seat they will need in order to take back the House majority.

An outright win in Georgia would serve as validation of the party’s overall strategy.

Didn't turn out like they thought it would.

So it was a referendum on Trump? Maybe so. Lookee here, what were the locals saying when Karen Handel won the special election last night? From the Atlanta Journal Constitution:

Handel thanked President Donald Trump and other prominent Republicans who supported her in the nationally watched runoff, leading to cheers of “Trump, Trump, Trump” from the crowd at the Hyatt Regency in Dunwoody.

Trump! Trump! Trump! Guess it really was a referendum, but not with the "narrative" Ben Rhodes and all his fellow Democratic Party coevals and media toadies thought it would be. Apparently, hating Trump is not sufficient to win elections these days.

The reality it shows is that Georgia voters and Americans in general are tired as heck of the left's kitchen-sink Energizer Bunny-style efforts to delegitimize President Trump - whether through tantrums, thuggery, lawsuits, special prosecutors, fake news, gobs and gobs of campaign cash or "by any means necessary."

Handel wasn't always riding high in the polls, but when it came down to brass tacks and the coinciding news was in all the disgusting efforts to stop President Trump and the agenda they elected him to accomplish back in Washington, Handel's numbers crossed the victory threshold.

Democrats, of course are horrified, though some are trying to put the best possible face on it and others are vowing to double down on extremism, to take two examples.

What they won't do is take an honest look at themselves and why voters chose Trump as a result.

There are two things to observe about this.

One is an observation from Peggy Noonan, who pointed out a few months ago that Trump's support isn't likely to tank or fade for the simple reason that voters took a long time to make up their mind on whether to support Trump. Making that mental 'investment' they weren't about to scrap it over something small or stupid.

The other thing is that Democrats have yet to confront the problem as to why they are losing elections. The big reason is that they have swung hard-left on every single issue that they once had moderates on - immigration, government spending, health care, law and order, terrorism. In every single instance, it's a stance that benefits some special interest group and leaves the average voter with the bill.

What's more, it's a creepy kind of leftwingery - one that benefits corporate interests at the expense of Main Street. Whenever some big-spending, freedom-ending intrusive Democrat program is rolled out "for the children" - you can be there are a plethora of corporate hipster crony capitalists slavering in the rafters over all the new contracts to come. The secondary backwash is massive speaking fees these corporate beneficiaries shovel out to Democrats the programs are enacted. This is not the party of the little guy.

And it's an inflexible, brittle stance as well. Like Obama, the left finds it impossible change course when it goes to far. It just keeps digging deeper and deeper into its leftwing party line, intensifyng it and thrilling its special interest activists and Sorosian NGOs determined to 'make a difference.'

Voters can see that - and yet at election time, the Democrats don't run one of these new-style extremists emblematic of who they now are - such extremism is reserved for leftist representatives in safe and longtime seats such as Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) The Democrats run what they claim is a 'moderate' figuring voters won't notice how far the party has shifted left. And figuring the youth gambit would work in the states as it did in France and Canada, they ran a candidate who tried to capitalize on his youthfulness, in this case, the 30-year-old documentary film-maker named Jon Ossoff who didn't even live in the district he purported to represent. He just said he hated Trump - and proposed a raft of tax hikes to prove he was a business-as-usual Democrat, not a new-style street extremist or Sorosian crony.

It doesn't work.

Now the Democrats are left with a steaming pile of $23 million in campaign debt, shelling out $200 per vote, all because they thought hating on Trump was a winning strategy that would thrill the voters. And if that wasn't clear enough a message, a similar race in the 5th district of South Carolina came out the same way.

The Left wanted a referendum on Trump. Today, they got it.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/06/howd_that_referendum_on_trump_work_out.html

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posted June 21, 2017 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah yes. It must be California's fault you posted fake news.

Have to agree the Dems still arent getting it. But Hard Left? Whos kidding whom? And i doubt they spent anymore than repubs on this race tho it should have been a landslide in that district.. which has votedRepub "for decades"..


Democrats will probably argue that even coming close to defeating a Republican in Georgia’s sixth is a victory in itself. There’s something to that. But Handel’s non-incumbent status matters; Ossoff wasn’t running against Tom Price or Newt Gingrich, both of whom represented the district for decades. That fact complicated this race significantly, as does Ossoff’s staggering fundraising haul. As a result, it’s difficult to draw any conclusions about the strength of the Democratic party in the district and beyond.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.nationalreview.com/article/448811/handel-georgia-victory-ossoff-defeat-disrupts-anti-trump-narrative

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posted June 21, 2017 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The democrat message....We Hate Trump, We Hate America...isn't selling to rational Americans.

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posted June 21, 2017 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Close to beating a Republican in Georgia? What have you been smoking? Ossoff lost by 6 points!

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posted June 21, 2017 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last i looked i dont write or dictate to the National Review.

And I can't understand why you feel the need to use alternative facts. Handel won but that's not enough. Like your insatiable leader you seem to have to pretend it's a bigger win than it was?

All votes have been counted. Ms. Handel leads in that count by 3.7 points.

Less than 4 pts.. and against a total newcomer. But hey, "you" won.. dont be a sore winner

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posted June 21, 2017 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bad. She was 6 points ahead when they called the race. Ossoff couldn't even vote for himself! Even claiming to be a fiscal conservative didn't help. The Dems need a strategy other than "We hate Trump."

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posted June 21, 2017 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Handel to Ossoff at debate: "Who are YOU going to vote for?" *crickets*

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posted June 21, 2017 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted June 21, 2017 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealsaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It must have been the Russians. There's no way people actually voted for a Republican

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posted June 21, 2017 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They had to take a "hankie" break at CNN last night.


This Is CNN: World Mocks Network’s Sadness as Ossoff Loses
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/06/21/sad-cnn-meme-storms-the-internet-as-karen-handel-wins-the-election/

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posted June 22, 2017 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was absurd to put that much pressure on a greenhorn. Then again Repubs brought in big guns like Ryan and studiously avoided the healthcare Obamacare issue and painted a pretty moderate guy as "hard left"..puleez...
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/06/jon-ossoff-karen-handel-georg ia-special-election-results/

And if Ossoff spent $25 million and the total spent was $51 million i think Handel/Repubs arr down for somewhat more than $5 mill..decimal point perhaps? Where IS the discrepancy?

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posted June 22, 2017 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He pretended to be a lot farther right than he is. Voters didn't fall for it.

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posted June 23, 2017 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is a total newbie. Can you tell me how you know any different? And can you tell me why you think Handel is any more honest?

Rather than keep chanting the "hard left fake moderate" byline?

I havent followed this race and don't consider it a litmus test of anything but it would be refreshing to find that someone actually has reason for their opinions other than what they've been handed on a platter by campaigners.. or ses it as simething other than a football game

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posted June 23, 2017 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I see CNN in tears, I'm laughing my Ossoff.

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posted June 23, 2017 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
When I see CNN in tears, I'm laughing my Ossoff.

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posted June 23, 2017 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But you appear to love their polls lately. Despite deflecting any polls that dont agree with you.

I wonder what percentage of likely voters believe in astrology or consider Linda an authority.

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posted June 23, 2017 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This came from a private facebook group:

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"Let's look at what really went wrong.....and let's quit second guessing the Democrats and the Resistance mission...
New Georgia Project, on Democracy Now said they registered 86,419 voter registration forms. 46K made it; 40K are missing from the rolls. They ask; the BoE says they don't know what she's talking about. "What forms?" So Ufot walked into the county BoE and saw boxes of registrations waiting to be processed.

Three years ago a Korean org started registering significant numbers of Korean Americans, which forms weren't getting processed. So they sent a letter to the secretary of state and said, "Hey, here are all these people that we registered to vote. They aren’t on the voter rolls. WTF?" And they never got a response. Then the Georgia Bureau of Investigation came, seized their files, requested correspondence, and basically shut down their operation. After 2 years they dropped the threat of criminal charges. But by then the org was out of business. This was under Karen Handel who was the Secretary of State.

Then: CrossCheck. 660K people are on the list of suspected double voters in Georgia. CrossCheck is giant garbage suppression tool and Handel, as SoS, was the master garbologist! A garbage picker-upper in our town actually calls himself that. But anyway, I think we can skip all the Nancy Pelosi Communist Self-Critique Session."


So, all of those voter registrations weren't processed. They were left in boxes in the office. That's why he lost.

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