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Topic: Concealed Carry Permits Up 190%, Violent Crime Down 18%
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jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
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posted July 20, 2017 04:12 PM
  
Study: Percentage of Adults with Carry Permits Up 190 Percent, Violent Crime Down 18 Percent
AWR Hawkins
20 Jul 2017
A study from the Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) shows during the time period 2007 to 2015, the percentage of adults with carry permits rose 190% and violent crime fell by 18%................
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/07/20/study-concealed-carry-see-record-surge-led-women-blacks/ IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted July 20, 2017 05:53 PM
Butbut Trump insists that the Obama admins drastic gun regulations caused an UPtick in violent crime! How inconvenient IP: Logged |
SimplyLuna
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From: California
Registered: Jul 2017
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posted July 20, 2017 06:00 PM
Yeah, in areas with strict gun control, like the Marxist Messiah's hometown of Chicago.IP: Logged |
Randall
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From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
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posted July 20, 2017 06:01 PM
Oops, that was me above. Helped her register and still had her in my cookies.IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted July 20, 2017 06:41 PM
Actually he was not that specific. Violent crime has indeed been going down for years. Obama has not taken Anyone's guns despite years of propaganda warning it was one of his chief goals. But yes, the publicity did wonders for gun sales and production. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 20, 2017 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Butbut Trump insists that the Obama admins drastic gun regulations caused an UPtick in violent crime! How inconvenient
I don't think Trump said that. What I heard was...the cities with the strictest laws against citizen gun ownership have the highest levels of violent crime. More guns in the hands of private citizens equals less crime and especially less violent crime. More Concealed Carry Permits equals less violent crime. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted July 21, 2017 10:23 AM
The murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years, right?"Trump said. "Did you know that? Forty-seven years. I used to use that -- I’d say that in a speech and everybody was surprised, because the press doesn’t tell it like it is. It wasn’t to their advantage to say that. But the murder rate is the highest it’s been in, I guess, from 45 to 47 years."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements /2017/feb/08/donald-trump/donald-trump-wrong-murder-rate-highest-47-years/ He also said it was up in cities on another occasion. And as it happens there was a spike in the last couple years despite an overall downward trend over the last 20.. when gun controls were generally tougher than in the past. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 21, 2017 12:44 PM
Trump was right...and IS right."The murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years" The fact the rates HAD been going down for a period of time doesn't win the day for leftist loons. At the time Trump said that, it was TRUE. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted July 21, 2017 02:40 PM
They've been going down for twenty some years. NOT 47. They have gone up only in the last year or so.. comparative to the lowest rates since the 90sso no, he was not right at all. Try reading the graph in my post. He was dead wrong In fact the last two years , which breitbart peg as the highest gun ownership numbers ever, coincide with the recent spike in murders after 20 years of major decline. It still isn't anywhere near where it was in 95 but its going in the opposite direction. That was 22 years ago by the way.. not 47 IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
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posted July 21, 2017 03:13 PM
They may have been going down over time but they were up in recent times and higher than in 47 years.Obviously, there was a point at which time those rates started climbing. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted July 21, 2017 03:56 PM
No jwhop again i refer you to the graph that shows quite graphically 😉the recent spike is far below what they were even 10 years ago. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
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posted July 21, 2017 08:11 PM
You've got your wires crossed again.That graph shows murders per 100,000 population. It DOES NOT SHOW TOTAL MURDERS IN THE UNITED STATES. Nor, does it show total population for each year of the graph. PolitiFactLess/PolitiWorthLess IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted July 21, 2017 09:39 PM
Pull the other one. Can you spell eggstrapolate? IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 22, 2017 12:40 PM
"eggstrapolate"?Oh, you mean building castles in the sky and building mountains out of mole hills. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted July 22, 2017 12:59 PM
I'll give you a clue. Total murders are not the same as murder RATES. So your dismissal of the graph is totally irrelevant.Nobody in this whole thread has been talking about total murders.. including you and your Hero.
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Node
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From: 2,015 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2017 05:04 AM
http://twitter.com/hashtag/StopCCR?src=hash
After "Concealed Carry Reciprocity" passed in MO, aggravated assaults with a firearm increased over 22% in St. Louis.
WATCH: NRA TV hosts warn ‘white families’ will be ‘tortured and killed’ if Black Lives Matter succeeds
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/watch-nra-tv-hosts-warn-white-families-will-be-tortured-and-killed-if-black-lives-matter-succeeds/ IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted July 24, 2017 11:57 PM
Do you even know what..."Concealed Carry Reciprocity" is?Are you suggesting concealed carry permittees from other states are going into Missouri to commit violent crime...since the Concealed Carry Reciprocity statute was passed? IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted July 25, 2017 02:30 AM
is that so farfetched? You suggest often that criminals from another state cross the southern border to commit crimes here. in fact you act like they have nothing better to do than tunnel into the country to prey on innocent American bystanders.St Louis is a big city with a lot of transients.. who are now allowed to carry. It seems the right to carry anywhere in the state (since last year) hasn't reduced crime there. Maybe that's because felons and "judged incompetents" are still barred!🙃 IP: Logged |
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