posted July 28, 2017 08:50 AM            

Keeping healthy people in the mandate is what helps the curve of pre-existing conditions... et all.

posted July 28, 2017 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Node:
Dream on.

Keeping healthy people in the mandate is what helps the curve of pre-existing conditions... et all.

But who cares about them.

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Right, grossly overcharge productive citizens so free, subsidized health insurance can be give to the unproductive among us.

That's the Socialist way.

posted July 28, 2017 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Right, grossly overcharge productive citizens so free, subsidized health insurance can be give to the unproductive among us.

That's the Socialist way.

Scrap it all.

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How many millions have been spent on your president going to Florida to golf? He's cost the American tax payers more money than Obama did in his first year. Where's your outrage at him, for wasting money?

posted July 28, 2017 12:52 PM            

So I have to conclude that you guys care nothing for the law, unless it is a law you like.

For people who profess to loathe "liberals" because they act " like they know what's best for us" you do a very good imitation of just that.

posted July 28, 2017 02:03 PM            

Every dollar given by the "Productive" is a Seed Money which by Karmic Laws will return to them 3 times [Linda Goodman Prosperity Lessons 101]. The Unproductive also have Higher Selves beaming blessings to those who share of their abundance.

Obama knows Spiritual Laws.
He did err terribly with the Drone Attacks and support for rebels in Arab Nations but the good karma of Obamacare in rescuing the needy, this is is huge Karmic Blessing for US in the years to come.

Jeff Bezos, Buffet and Bill Gates have no problem in giving away billions upon billions. Billions are wasted on Arms and lethal weapons. With right planning, Premiums can be brought to below 400 dollars a month and every Citizen can have the best Healthcare from multiple providers [once the Law is Fixed with bipartisan effort].

Nothing will be perfect but if 100 million Americans in the bottom half get affordable health care in years to come, their sheer motivation will propel the Economy further. Americans by nature do not like to be "Moochers". One earns a right to be born American from the Spiritual Realm in this specific Time Line because of certain traits, Self-Respect being one of them.

If the American haves do not look upon American havenots with jaundiced hate filled eyes, US will become even wealthier and will further set the best example to third world mockeries of Democracy to actually improve.

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posted July 28, 2017 03:16 PM            

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As the title says.. it's still the law. To sabotage it is not part of the Prez's job description.

So I have to conclude that you guys care nothing for the law, unless it is a law you like.

For people who profess to loathe "liberals" because they act " like they know what's best for us" you do a very good imitation of just that.

Properly fund the law and premiums will go down. Meanwhile, if you ever have a stroke I hope someone will consider you worthy of care whether you still have money or not. It will be hard to bluster your way thru that and your sense of smug entitlement may desert you too

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What sabotage? Congress passes budgets...including the ObamaCare budget. When the money runs out, it's out...period.

posted July 28, 2017 03:24 PM            

ObamaCare isn't nearly good enough for Representatives and Senators BUT, they think it's good enough for American citizens.

posted July 28, 2017 03:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
It doesn't matter how much President Trump spends on his working weekends. Obama is way ahead to the tune of billions paid to Iran. The real question then is where's YOUR outrage, but we all know the answer.

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posted July 28, 2017 04:48 PM            

Mitch McConnell, Senate Majority Leader
Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House

Notice to the lying, backstabbing little weasels of the Republican party:

Your political careers are going to hit a brick wall in your primary elections.

Right now, you're trying to con your voters that ObamaCare can be fixed and you will fix it. We don't want ObamaCare FIXED. We want this piece of crap legislation on the scrap heap of history.

So, go ahead and join up with the far left lunatics of the democrat party and throw more taxpayer money down the toilet and we'll see you during your primary races in 2018. We won't be hard to find.

Who do you think is going to protect you lying, backstabbing little weasels from us?

The idiot leftist press? Tom Donahue? Or, perhaps you think we'll have forgotten all about your lying antics by primary season.

posted July 28, 2017 05:59 PM            

Randall is still going on about the money Obama returned to the Iranians. And pretending that DT is the first prez to work on his "vacations".

posted July 28, 2017 06:06 PM            

Tbe voters like Obamacare better than ever. A one party govt will always shoot its own feet (having eliminated any others). You dont get to have it your own way .even if you had the cahones to run for office instead of spewing regurgitated venom from the comfort of your seaside desk.

Dont you remember when Congress voted not to exempt themselves from obamacare? Who in their right mind would not want coverage for everything?

Its the niggards like you who resent having to help that pushed up premiums. For the sake of making Obama and Dems look bad.

posted July 28, 2017 09:58 PM            

ObamaCare is not popular with those who actually pay for it. Freeloaders are always down for more free goodies from the public feeding trough.

"Tbe voters like Obamacare better than ever"

Obamacare Sees Miraculous Popularity Surge
David Catron
February 27, 2017
Has the public REALLY learned to love this bomb?
David Catron

Who says the age of miracles is over? Having endured years of public scorn, Obamacare is reputedly enjoying a sudden and timely increase in popularity. USA Today breathlessly reports a new survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF): “More people view the health law favorably than at any point in nearly seven years.” The story implies that the threat of repeal has succeeded where years of taxpayer-funded promotional campaigns failed — moving the needle on Obamacare’s favorability ratings. The KFF poll found that the percentage of adults with a positive view of the law has risen to an underwhelming 48 percent.

If that percentage seems lackluster, it is also inconsistent with the survey’s other findings. When asked if our medical delivery system is on the right track, for example, “Six in ten (62 percent) Americans say that when it comes to health care, things in this country have pretty seriously gotten off on the wrong track.” Oddly enough, none of the “news” outlets touting the poll mention this highly inconvenient datum — despite an impossible-to-miss KFF graph pointing it out. The USA Today story neglects to mention it, ABC ignores it, U.S. News & World Report fails to note it, and Time refuses to violate the media code of Omertà.

Nor do any of these paragons of journalistic integrity mention KFF’s finding that the percentage of Americans who favor repeal of Obamacare is statistically identical to the percentage who do not want Congress to deep-six it: “[T]he public remains divided on what they would like lawmakers to do when it comes to the 2010 health care law with 47 percent wanting lawmakers to vote to repeal the law compared to 48 percent who say they should not vote to repeal it.” All of the outlets named above — and countless others — cherry-picked a single positive finding and ignored anything that failed to fit the “increase in popularity” line.

The media don’t like it when President Trump talks about “fake news,” but what else could explain such glaring omissions? If fake news includes a deliberate and obviously concerted refusal to report important data in order to create a false impression about a public opinion survey, then the reporting about the KFF survey certainly qualifies. Indeed, it is remarkably reminiscent of the fake news reports that pervaded the media about the mythical sign-up surge that followed Trump’s November victory. Just after the election, a tsunami of stories like this one appeared touting such a surge. They turned out to be fictitious.

It will thus be very difficult for anyone capable of critical thinking to believe these very same “news” outlets when they report that a law whose approval numbers have been underwater by double digits for more than six years has suddenly become as popular as Adele. It will be likewise difficult for anyone with an IQ exceeding single digits to believe a Democrat polling firm like Public Policy Polling (PPP) when they claim to discover a sudden increase in public esteem for a Democrat-sponsored health “reform” law that has historically been reviled by the electorate. And yet that is precisely what a PPP claims to have discovered:

Obamacare continues to become more popular the more talk there is about repealing it. 46% of voters now say they support it to just 41% who are opposed. And only 33% of voters think the best course of action is for Congress to repeal the Affordable Care Act and start over, to 62% who think it would be better to keep it and fix the parts that need fixing.

Would you buy a used car from the author of this survey? No? Well, the PPP poll is just one among many surveys that have detected a tectonic shift in the public’s view of Obamacare. Just as trustworthy as PPP is the partnership between Politico and Morning Consult. They teamed-up to produce a poll that found the following: “The 2010 health care law is becoming more popular, even as it heads toward the chopping block.” Seem counterintuitive in light of rising premiums, outrageous deductibles, and the rapidly shrinking number of plans from which enrollees may choose in most of Obamacare’s “marketplaces”? Not to them:

In early January, before Trump took office, a POLITICO/Morning Consult poll showed only 41 percent of voters approved of the health care law, compared with 52 percent who disapproved. [However] a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll shows voters are now split evenly on the law. Forty-five percent of registered voters approve of the law, the poll shows, and 45 percent disapprove.

If the magnitude of this swing seems extravagant, it is a model of plausibility compared to the public opinion pirouette reported last week by the Pew Research Center. According to this poll: “With congressional Republicans discussing proposals to replace the Affordable Care Act, public support for the 2010 health care law has reached its highest level on record.” The folks at the Pew Research Center Pew would have us believe that the favorability percentages have gone from 46 percent approval versus 51 percent disapproval just before the presidential election to 54% approval versus 43% disapproval by the second week in February.

posted July 29, 2017 08:14 AM            

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Fake news tells the left what to believe, regardless of facts to the contrary.

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Kinda like jwhops email to McConnell??

posted July 29, 2017 02:51 PM            

Your problem, not the problem of those that are not informed by alternative facts.

posted July 29, 2017 04:10 PM            

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Kinda like jwhops email to McConnell??

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Nothing fake about the emails I sent to McConnell and Ryan.

posted July 29, 2017 04:53 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Nothing fake about the emails I sent to McConnell and Ryan.

Btw, leftists shouldn't get their hopes up that conservatives will vote for leftist loony-tunes democrats. The plan is to take out the lying, backstabbing weasels in the primary races...at their next election; then bury the leftist democrats in the general election.

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Yikes, I thought it was from Ryan to McConnell. My apologies Jwhop.

posted July 29, 2017 05:52 PM            

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The plan is to take out the lying, backstabbing weasels in the primary races...at their next election

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Kudos to those that stepped up to the plate and voted against the most unpopular bill in three decades.

posted July 31, 2017 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Right, grossly overcharge productive citizens so free, subsidized health insurance can be give to the unproductive among us.

That's the Socialist way.

Scrap it all.

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We need to get away from the system in general, which encourages greed and selfishness, as it's not in the best interests of anybody except the richest people. So yes, we should have universal health care, as well as a universal basic income for all. The needs of others should not be suppressed in order for certain people to have a higher status than others. Is it really moral to force people to be away from their families 8 hours a day (which means that if you sleep for 8 hours, you're spending the other 8 hours consuming, just like a battery, as the elite basically feed off of negative energy, which a lifestyle like that creates), 5 days a week, for around 40 years until retirement if they want to have a comfortable living? Same for making people pay out of picket to stay healthy. The current system has everybody enslaved to the corporations, which are part of the Illuminati, along with the government, education system, media, religion, etc., in order to survive comfortably. The education system basically trains people for this lifestyle at a young age, as it's around an 8 hour day with a lunch break, and if you don't obey authority you get detention or a bad grade. How so many still haven't connected the dots yet is beyond me. People shouldn't have to prove their worth in order to have a comfortable life.