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Topic: Trump Pardons Arpaio
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4949
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 27, 2017 09:54 PM
  
That number, however, is dwarfed by the legal payouts over the failings of the county’s jail system. In a five-year period between 2003 and 2007, Maricopa County taxpayers had to shell out $30 million in liability claims for mistreatment in Arpaio’s jails, according to a report from the conservative think-tank Goldwater Institute.The $30 million doesn’t even include a likely payout for the 2011 beating/electrocution death of 44-year-old Army veteran Ernest “Marty” Atencio, a case that is still wending its way through the court system. Atencio was arrested on an assault charge and brought to one of Arpaio’s jails, where a gang of roughly 10 detention officers beat him up and used Tasers on him in what his attorney, Michael Manning, calls a “jailer’s riot.” Following Atencio’s death, his family filed a claim against the county and Arpaio for $20 million. The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors voted to offer the Atencio family $550,000 to settle the case. Manning tells Vocativ that the settlement offer was rejected and the case likely will head to trial, where evidence – including video of the vicious attack – will likely show Atencio was not the aggressor. One of the more egregious inmate deaths was the 2003 beating death of Brian Crenshaw by Arpaio’s detention officers. Crenshaw, who was legally blind and mentally disabled, was serving a short sentence at Tent City for shoplifting. A few days into his sentence, detention officers began denying him his anti-depressant medication. After doing so, an officer approached Crenshaw and asked to see his inmate ID card, but he refused. The officer then handcuffed the blind man and brought him to a holding cell, where he and two other officers began beating him. Crenshaw suffered a broken neck and other injuries, and ultimately slipped into a coma while placed in segregated housing. He ultimately died. At the time, Arpaio claimed that Crenshaw sustained his injuries by falling out of his bunk — a claim that was quickly debunked by medical experts. Crenshaw’s family sued the sheriff’s office and was awarded $2 million. IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4949
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 27, 2017 11:22 PM
These - only two - incidents were, like many of the others, carried out by his subordinates.. and he was known to endorse same and cover-up as much as possible for them. Are there any charges of him actually carrying out the beatings? Dunno but he ran a brutal ship and bragged about it. He admitted to defying the court order, to racial profiling and detaining people without any cause but "suspicion" and no charges..and expected to get away with a little embarrassment. He claimed his tent prisons.. Which he called "concentration camps" saved the state money but the liability bill for non stop brutalities more than outweighed those so called savings. "actions speak louder than words".. whatever DT says this action says he will overlook lawless racist behaviour in LAW OFFICERS if they are his friends and tough on Hispanics.. illegal or not..GUILTY OR NOT IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4949
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 27, 2017 11:22 PM
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jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 10320
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 28, 2017 09:15 AM
Strange that some here...the usual suspects, leftists, don't understand that Arpaio was on firm legal footing when he disregarded that idiot judge. Arpaio was upholding the laws of the country and that imbecilic judge attempted to prevent Arpaio from doing his job.Further, the "Star Chamber" trial of Arpaio was a farce and Arpaio was denied a trial by jury in his case. So leftists, screech, howl and shriek. Trump merely corrected a wrong done by an activist federal judge by pardoning Joe Arpaio. IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 10664
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 28, 2017 07:27 PM
Arpaio is a disgrace.And so is trump, not only for doing this, but he chose to do it on Friday, for ratings!! Like there weren't more important things to focus on (maybe a hurricane?). IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4949
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 30, 2017 09:30 PM
"Obama dragged himself into it. Obama charged him two weeks before the election. You would know the facts if you didn't glutton yourself on the forced feeding of Crackerjack." - RandallWrong. Obama did not bring the case. Perhaps you are the one "gluttoning yourself" on alternate universe facts 😎
In fact, the order to show cause why he should not be held in contempt did not come from Barack Obama's administration, as is frequently reported. The racial profiling lawsuit was brought in civil court by the American Civil Liberties Union. The judge trying that case not only found that Arpaio's policies constituted racial profiling, he also found Arpaio to be in civil contempt of court and referred him to another judge for the criminal contempt. As this explains jwhop is a little confused about the judge too. It seems the case was referred to her by the judge in the civil case. She tried to get others to take it before doing it herself Big Bad Joe is not out of the woods yet. Even Sheriffs are supposed to obey the law and legal process, ie, he should have appealed it and Trump should have waited at least till he was sentenced. SCOTUS were set to decide on whether he deserved a jury trial in october. Apparently if the sentence is no more than six months its not automatic http://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/615146001/ IP: Logged |
jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 10320
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 31, 2017 12:06 AM
I see our leftist friends are a little confused about the powers of the President of the United States.The President can pardon anyone, for anything, at anytime. IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4949
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 31, 2017 12:58 AM
I see you don't understand that Presidents wishes can be challenged, even on this. Try reading the article.It seems you also don't understand that as Sheriff he was not empowered to enforce immigration law, and a state employee not federal and that racial profiling was not legal even on the federal level.. by non Immigration forces Though DT has written an EO empowering more local police to impersonate border control it was long after Arpaio ADMITTEDLY took the law into his own hands in defiance of a federal court order. He even offered to apologize.publicly. Lawman is not the same as Law unto oneself IP: Logged |
jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 10320
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 31, 2017 12:37 PM
President Trump has the absolute Constitutional authority to pardon anyone, for anything, at any time.Only in the little bubble world of unreality inhabited by leftist lunatics does the President need the approval of congress, judges, the brain dead moronic press or their favorite lunatic leftist website to issue a pardon. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 84577
From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 31, 2017 02:18 PM
He was denied a jury. That's the only thing you need to know.IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 4949
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted August 31, 2017 03:50 PM
Well we'll never know what SCOTUS would have said about that now, will we? More interfering with the judicial system. Sentencing was put forward to give time for that case to be heard by SCOTUS but King Dumpty had to call it.
anyone, for anything, at any time... not strictly true but hey you don't consider yourself a "leftist" so what's a little exaggeration and overkill?
Bottom line he had the authority. But using it before the full trajectory was completed is still overreach.
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jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 10320
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 31, 2017 04:48 PM
"anyone, for anything, at any time... not strictly true but hey you don't consider yourself a "leftist" so what's a little exaggeration and overkill?"OK, another big chance for you to show off your legal acumen...since you flunked all your other chances. Name all the crimes, misdemeanors and all other faux pas the President of the United States cannot PARDON. And, Randall is right! Arpaio was denied a trial by jury by that misbegotten judge. Most rational people would call that..."Judicial Misconduct". IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 84577
From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 31, 2017 06:00 PM
A sitting president can pardon anyone for any crime. It wouldn't have gone to the Supreme Court. They wouldn't have wasted their time. A Sixth Amendment violation is clear on its very face.IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 1072
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted September 01, 2017 07:53 PM
However corrupt Arpaio may or may not be his sins pale in comparison to those of Oscar Lopez Rivera.Thank a traitorous president Obama for commuting the sentence of this admitted terrorist and avowed anti American Marxist-Leninist responsible for bombing one of the most treasured landmarks of our country's Revolutionary War era. GU has as messed up a perspective as it did 12 years ago. Sort of half comforting/half disheartening.
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