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Randall
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posted September 16, 2017 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About $600,000 in Berkeley! Ben Shapiro was called a fascist and a neonazi, but he's an orthodox Jew. Idiots! Conservative students are spat on and harrassed daily. And this is a university!?!

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posted September 16, 2017 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like a poem.

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posted September 16, 2017 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He exercised his free speech and they exercised theirs.

I did hear some of them speaking and their demands that he not speak there were ridiculous. They were calling him a fascist and a Nazi but based on what I read I don't think he is, assume he's jewish by his name.

I also agree that university climates lately are out of control and becoming left to the point where if you disagree you are basically tarred and feathered. Basically you can never be "oppressed" enough. I've seen some people receive a lot of **** at universities for disagreeing with the "diversity majority." Its another example of people becoming fractionated, insular irrational, and closed off in our society-and its not good. Ears close and minds close and then emotions take over.

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posted September 16, 2017 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 17, 2017 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The link didn't seem to go through right, but I did notice the two top trending topics are trump and Hillary. I wonder why Hillary is even a trending topic right now. Is she really still this relevant?

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posted September 17, 2017 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue Roamer...
Hillary was interviewed by Rachel Maddow.

(topic) Clinton Full Interview (Rachel Maddow, MSNBC, Thursday, Sept 14, 2017.
{one hour}

Discusses situation in North Korea, and insight on Putin (Russian).

Also states her future plans to still remain involved in government (without running for political office).

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posted September 17, 2017 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like she just can't let go of losing the presidency and still craves the limelight. I think shes just as narcissistic as trump, just in a more subtle way. When have we ever seen or heard this much from a losing candidate? People didn't even know who Michael Dukakis was 2 months after he lost...

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posted September 17, 2017 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In her book, she lists a host of ridiculous reasons to blame for her loss, which is keeping her in the limelight, but not in a good way. Even her own party is ridiculing her.

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posted September 17, 2017 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, exactly.

As far as I'm concerned her and Trump can take their giant inflated egos and self serving narcissism and just go away. Both basically terrible human beings.

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posted September 18, 2017 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dunno but Sean Spicer does . Catch his appearance on the Emmys last night??

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posted September 18, 2017 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
The link didn't seem to go through right, but I did notice the two top trending topics are trump and Hillary. I wonder why Hillary is even a trending topic right now. Is she really still this relevant?

She is, and I don't think that she should go away. You know that trump won't, once he leaves the White House.

I'm going to buy her book, when I can afford to. I'm so tired of people saying that she should be quiet, and disappear.

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posted September 18, 2017 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In her book, she lists a host of ridiculous reasons to blame for her loss, which is keeping her in the limelight, but not in a good way. Even her own party is ridiculing her.

And trump does this all the freaking time on Twitter. He's done it for years,

I don't think her reasons are ridiculous.

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posted September 18, 2017 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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She is, and I don't think that she should go away. You know that trump won't, once he leaves the White House.

I'm going to buy her book, when I can afford to. I'm so tired of people saying that she should be quiet, and disappear.


Agree!! ...

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posted September 18, 2017 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But she doesn't blame herself.

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posted September 18, 2017 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But she doesn't blame herself.

a) Why should she?
b) trump never blames himself
c) if Clinton was in the White House right now, instead of him, you wouldn't have blamed him for his loss.

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posted September 18, 2017 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 18, 2017 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Clinton lost through no fault of her own.

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posted September 20, 2017 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I admit Hillary has a big ego and is struggling still to accept what happened.

But what I find interesting is how many right wing people feel the need to scape goat her and hate on her still this far out?

Why?

What is the need for a scapegoat? what is going on in people's psyches that they hate this woman so intensely?

To me the need for a scapegoat indicates something really unhealthy going on. Scapegoating mindsets lead to dehumanization and cruelty, and even horrible atrocities like genocides.

So I think the right needs to ask itself, whats the need to keep kicking this woman? Why is this a thing? Why is this necessary? Trump is in office, he won. Hillary is out of power.

I think when people are consumed by hate they need to take a step back and ask themselves why.

If she had won I could understand much better needing to attack her. And at that point it would be important to criticize her.

I didn't see much scapegoating of Romney or of Mccain after they lost. And Mccain definitely didn't go away. So whats this all about?

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posted September 23, 2017 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They didn't write a book on scapegoating.

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posted September 24, 2017 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What i find interesting is that people who have only listened to detractors ' reviews of her book insist they know what's in it. Apparently she DID blame herself too..i have seen excerpts to that effect.

Who's the fake news now?

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posted September 24, 2017 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They didn't write a book on scapegoating.

They don't need to. Your President does it every day, on twitter.

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posted September 24, 2017 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I admit Hillary has a big ego and is struggling still to accept what happened.

But what I find interesting is how many right wing people feel the need to scape goat her and hate on her still this far out?

Why?

What is the need for a scapegoat? what is going on in people's psyches that they hate this woman so intensely?

To me the need for a scapegoat indicates something really unhealthy going on. Scapegoating mindsets lead to dehumanization and cruelty, and even horrible atrocities like genocides.

So I think the right needs to ask itself, whats the need to keep kicking this woman? Why is this a thing? Why is this necessary? Trump is in office, he won. Hillary is out of power.

I think when people are consumed by hate they need to take a step back and ask themselves why.

If she had won I could understand much better needing to attack her. And at that point it would be important to criticize her.

I didn't see much scapegoating of Romney or of Mccain after they lost. And Mccain definitely didn't go away. So whats this all about?


Exactly. If she had won, she would have to take criticism. It would be expected. No candidate is perfect.

I also wonder why there is such intense hatred for her, in particular.

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posted September 24, 2017 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also remember Hillary calling a small number of citizens "deplorables" was apparently the worst thing that anyone has ever done, and it made her unfit to be President.

We now have one calling citizens "sons of ******* " and focusing on insulting them, rather than important things, like the devastation from hurricanes.

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posted September 24, 2017 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I also remember Hillary calling a small number of citizens "deplorables" was apparently the worst thing that anyone has ever done, and it made her unfit to be President.

We now have one calling citizens "sons of ******* " and focusing on insulting them, rather than important things, like the devastation from hurricanes.


61,000,000, (61 million) Americans isn't a "small number". You forgot to mention Hillary The Corrupt also called those Americans "irredeemable". Nice Hillary, very nice way to really p!!ss off about half of America. AND, Hillary The BrainDead wonders why she lost the election!

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posted September 24, 2017 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She was referring to a small loud group not all of you. Your fake news sources used that to wind up the oversensitive while downplaying DT portraying all illegal immigrants as "bad hombres" and highlighting his qualifier. He is better at branding than she is..hardly worth an election as the popular vote showed.

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