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iQ
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posted October 02, 2017 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My deepest condolences to the families of the innocents massacred in Las Vegas today by a Domestic Terrorist.

The last few weeks have been tragic for America with terrible flooding, storms and devastation that has left 3.5 million in Puerto Rico on the brink. 100s could be dead there, 1000s more could die of disease. And in this tough situation, a terrorist attack.

America needs Healing. Now.
It is high time the GOP and the Democrat Politicians stop bothering about the Media Wars of Alt-Right or Left Liberal or Bannon vs CNN or Trump vs NFL or this Celebrity vs that Celebrity.

There has to be pro-people governance, Congress/Senate has to empower aid, empower Military to help Puerto Rico/Virgin Islands with 100% efficiency for instance.

Iran is not the enemy, North Korea is not the enemy. Muslims are not the enemy.
The Enemy is the Hate Brimming within pitting ideology vs ideology, Religion vs Religion and Race vs Race.

Do not expect Media to enable healing, they lose their ratings if there is 100% Peace.

Healing has to occur on an individual and community basis. Do not let any group spew hatred be it Alt-Right or Anti-Fa or whatever.

There could be 5000 or even 10000 potential White Terrorists with assault rifles in Mainland USA, courtesy MK-Ultra Project, waiting for a trigger to go postal.

If there is peace, they will stay as sleepers and go to their grave peacefully.

Hoping and Praying that Americans rise above politics and politicians to enable total peace and unity in the days to come.

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mirage29
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posted October 02, 2017 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, iQ...

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_Strip_shooting

We are Human. THAT IS the 'common denominator' ..

We need to see the red ... blood.
We all bleed the same.
When things go 'intensely to the personal'
We ALL need CARE,
We need LOVE and Understanding...

We sit shocked together by EVERYTHING going on, on a GLOBAL level.

When will we see the Human as the MOST IMPORTANT ingredient.

Everyone gets Born into the earth...
innocent.

May we FIND everything that is Innocent again.
May we BE.
May we BE Restored... before we sabotage our very-species existence here on earth.

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juniperb
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posted October 02, 2017 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amen IQ. I have no words right now. It is too devastating to articulate.
I will edit this and post to it when I can center myself.

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iQ
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posted October 02, 2017 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Praying for them all.

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posted October 03, 2017 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:

Iran is not the enemy, North Korea is not the enemy. Muslims are not the enemy.
The Enemy is the Hate Brimming within pitting ideology vs ideology, Religion vs Religion and Race vs Race.

Healing has to occur on an individual and community basis. Do not let any group spew hatred be it Alt-Right or Anti-Fa or whatever.

There could be 5000 or even 10000 potential White Terrorists with assault rifles in Mainland USA, courtesy MK-Ultra Project, waiting for a trigger to go postal.

If there is peace, they will stay as sleepers and go to their grave peacefully.



if we want peace in the word, we need to bring back all our projections and become in peace with ourselves and stop looking the enemy outside. we are part of the problem or the solution..

you choose

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted October 22, 2017 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you iQ, for a very important message.

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BlueRoamer
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posted October 24, 2017 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gun control is definitely NOT the answer. Just another blip of the radar that liberals will use to take away our constitutional rights. Just the other day a bird was making so much noise on my property, how am I supposed to deal with that without a gun?

This is a mental health problem, and since we can't get everyone into treatment and screened that needs treatment, it seems the logical choice is to put antipsychotic medication, thorazine, for example, in the drinking water.

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posted October 24, 2017 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Is that a joke? Or did you actually shoot a bird because it was doing what birds do and have done long before we arrived on this earth?

With regards to guns, I would be interested in research comparing America's gun crime rates with the UK's, where guns are illegal. Controlling of course for the differences in populations and size.

The need for a gun, the *right* to have a gun, is a mindset I cannot get my head around. I cannot recall one time in my life thinking 'Man, if only I had a gun right now, I could solve this problem!'

I suspect the biggest issue giving up guns for those who are used to having them is fear. I do not have to fear being shot, as the main shootings in the UK are between rival gangs or criminals. None of which I am involved with. However, should my nasty neighbour have access to a gun, and I do not. Well, I would feel I should also have one in the event I may have to defend myself when I complain about the volume of her music!

Yes, I think it is fear. Guns have become a part of the US's culture and obviously confer some sense of security to their owners.

It is ironic really. Because ultimately it is the gun that has created the fear in the first place.

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posted October 24, 2017 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Incidentally, I work with people who have psychosis all the time. I have yet to come across someone who has murdered someone else due to 'the voices' or 'the delusions'.

It may interest you to know that not even many of our most prolific serial killers were found to be psychotic.
Anti-social traits - yes.
Horrendously adverse childhood experiences - yes (in most cases).
Psychotic - no.

It's the nature-nurture debate, isn't it. Except there isn't really a debate anymore.
It is clear that those with anti-social traits still require *environment* to pull the trigger before any violence will occur.

As a society, we are responsible for this!

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posted October 24, 2017 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Voix. I'm from the UK, and we also managed just fine without guns.

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posted October 24, 2017 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just the other day a bird was making so much noise on my property, how am I supposed to deal with that without a gun?

This is a mental health problem

I'll say

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted October 24, 2017 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, more irony ^^

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posted October 24, 2017 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Gun control is definitely NOT the answer. Just another blip of the radar that liberals will use to take away our constitutional rights. Just the other day a bird was making so much noise on my property, how am I supposed to deal with that without a gun?

This is a mental health problem, and since we can't get everyone into treatment and screened that needs treatment, it seems the logical choice is to put antipsychotic medication, thorazine, for example, in the drinking water.




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posted October 24, 2017 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Gun control is definitely NOT the answer. Just another blip of the radar that liberals will use to take away our constitutional rights. Just the other day a bird was making so much noise on my property, how am I supposed to deal with that without a gun?

This is a mental health problem, and since we can't get everyone into treatment and screened that needs treatment, it seems the logical choice is to put antipsychotic medication, thorazine, for example, in the drinking water.


This is a joke, right? I didn't see this properly, earlier.

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posted October 27, 2017 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brother Blue with tongue in cheek

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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted October 28, 2017 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sincerely hope so Juniper!
(although perhaps humour on this thread is a little misplaced...)

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posted October 29, 2017 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As long as white supremacists are allowed to march/tolerated in any way, there will be no healing. http://mobile.twitter.com/LeftistScumbag/status/924467177763299328 that video shows them attacking an interracial couple.

And trump is in no way unifying. He doesn't even want to be.

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posted October 29, 2017 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apparently, about a thousand people have died in Puerto Rico. He doesn't care. He's golfing, yet again.

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posted October 29, 2017 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you expect him to do--personally go there and wave his magic wand? It's called delegating.

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posted November 01, 2017 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where we are:

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Particularly since the total solar eclipse, it's been one national crisis after the next, whether born of intent, neglect, or some seemingly natural process. A series of major hurricanes, followed by a vast swath of northern California burning up, interlaced with threats of nuclear war, escalation of the war in Afghanistan, revelation of a war in Niger and of American military presence in a total of 172 countries, and most lately, a tax plan that would take more than a trillion dollars in new national debt and put it in the pockets of billionaires. God, that was a long sentence. That's how it is.

We have cabinet officers whose job seems to be dismantling the agencies they run; we witnessed a very, very strange massacre in Las Vegas; we are seeing the belching forth of an entire universe of sexual abuse, including by the president himself; we have American citizens drinking from contaminated wells used to monitor Superfund sites in Puerto Rico, and on and on. Anyone who comes near TV or the internet is getting a steady stream of these things into their consciousness.


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Continued in part:

Essential to this is admitting that many people are in a weakened state, whether from physical illness, burdens both practical and emotional, or a state of exhaustion. We will need to tap our deepest and most sincere spiritual resources and find seemingly new sources of strength. Each of us must do what we can, whenever we can; we must break free of false self-obsession and actively work to support our communities, and to share our resources and our knowledge.

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posted November 01, 2017 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What do you expect him to do--personally go there and wave his magic wand? It's called delegating.
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Trump is a Master of Firing Incompetents.
If Kansas or Oklahoma or Texas or Wisconsin had lost 1000 lives from Hurricane impact after relief ops begin, I am certain Trump would have fired dozens and declared a National Emergency, brought in International Aid as well. I feel he is not even being made aware of the loss of life in Puerto Rico.

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posted November 01, 2017 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Indeed

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posted November 01, 2017 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said iQ. I agree what we need is healing. That is available for individuals to choose. Hopefully more do.

What we are experiencing societally, however, is the hard road of evolution and development towards real integration. Leadership that exemplifies the Golden Rule could go a long way towards both.

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posted November 05, 2017 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And now dozens massacred in Sutherland Springs Texas. How many more Americans have to be felled by bullets before semi automatics are banned? 27000? 270000?
2 million?

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