posted October 31, 2017 12:02 AM            

Another debacle for the Ruling Class: She was the one who colluded with a foreigner to tip the election.

The moment that a story starts hurting the Democrats the media loses interest in it. This explains the media’s ho-hum coverage of the confirmation that Hillary Clinton paid for the notorious “pee tape” dossier a former British spy compiled in an attempt to blow up Donald Trump’s candidacy.

Even the Washington Post seemed embarrassed by its own scoop, nonchalantly reporting the FBI’s role in this sick farce in a few bland paragraphs deep in the story. The Post’s commentators and editorialists quickly moved into action, dismissing the story as insignificant.

The same pundits who pretended to tremble at dark forces outside the country trying to “tip the election” now say it is perfectly normal and even commendable that Hillary paid a foreign source to smear her opponent.

Is it any wonder that the American people don’t trust the ruling class? This squalid net of political espionage, catching in it everyone from Clinton to Comey to CNN (which hyped the fake dossier), captures the corruption and bad judgment of the ruling class perfectly.

Hoist by their own Russian petard, liberals now seek to change the subject, though the more shameless ones are double-downing on the dossier. A few of them still insist that a report Bob Woodward called “garbage” contains devastating information. How do we know? Well, it hasn’t been “disproven,” they sputter absurdly, as if the burden of proof for a charge as outlandish as paying prostitutes to urinate on a bed Obama once slept on in Moscow should naturally fall on the person accused of it.

Another line of defense is to say that Christopher Steele, the British spy who cobbled the dossier together, is “trustworthy.” How do we know? Well, because the ruling class says so and the FBI paid him too. It was that circular reasoning and entitled hysteria — all the right people said that Steele was trustworthy, all the right people were saying that Trump colluded with the Russians, all the right people deemed Trump a menace to be stopped, and so on — that led the ruling class into this debacle.

That Hillary paid for this dirty dossier explodes once and for all her tale of victimhood and exposes her as the “abnormal” candidate in the race. While Trump barnstormed through the Rust Belt in conventional campaign mode, she was holed up in her headquarters, Nixon-like, waiting for a salacious dossier to arrive that she had paid a foreign agent to cook up.

One can only marvel at the depth of her dishonesty during the book tour, whining about the effect of true information on the race (via WikiLeaks and the release of the Podesta emails) while concealing her purchase of false information.

It is even clearer now why the mainstream media and the ruling class were so upset with BuzzFeed for releasing the dossier. Their anger had nothing to do with the “unverified” quality of it, as the phonies at CNN pretended. Obviously, they weren’t worried about Trump’s reputation. No, what upset them about the release of the dossier was that it made all of their heavy-breathing about it and their pompous references to the anxieties of “the intelligence community” over it look ludicrous and dishonest. All of the power and credibility of that whispering campaign vanished the moment people could see the shoddiness of the dossier.

The confirmation that Hillary paid for this sleaze brings Obamagate into sharper focus. It reinforces the chain of political espionage that wove through the White House, her campaign, and the media. The media, remember, had built up Steele as a singularly high-minded citizen of the world, working tirelessly and “without pay” at times (as a UK publication put it in a lionizing story) to alert Americans to Trump’s sinister ties. In reality, he was just a paid gun of the Hillary campaign, whipping together smears that his paymasters were eager to hear and spread.

It was no accident that many of the leaked stories about alleged Trump-Russia ties originated in the British press. Through Steele, the British were coming for Trump.

During the campaign, we were told that it was outrageous to suggest that Hillary’s friends in the Obama administration had outsourced spying to Brits. They had. Christopher Steele, on Hillary’s payroll, and John Brennan, auditioning to be her CIA director, joined forces to tip the election to her.

posted October 31, 2017 05:26 AM            

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YOU JUST POST RANDOM WIRTERS WHO PUTS WORDS ONE BEHIND THE OTHER, WORDS SUCH AS "socialist" "CIA" " HILLARY"...

Sounds to me like a preach from an Ayatollah... one speech that only scared or brainwashed people can give credit to

Ps: my apologies to the common sense members of this site for posting on such a thread and make it alive.

posted October 31, 2017 09:21 AM            

There's at least 2 federal felonies in that transaction. Campaign funds cannot be given to foreign nationals for campaign activities. All campaign spending must be reported to the FEC. There's 2 federal felonies..at least!

Further, that transaction involving Russians connected to the Russian government is the smoking gun pointing to collusion between Hillary The Corrupt, the DNC and the Russian government.

Try to spin it anyway you wish but watch out that you don't step in your own bullshiiite.

posted October 31, 2017 11:44 PM            

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Also, if it was used to obtain the FISA warrant, then people are going to prison. Those who get the "news" from CNN are in the dark.

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From what I've seen and heard, this entire Trump/Russia investigation rests on the foundation of the phony Trump Dossier. Setting off a chain of events with fraudulent, phony, lying nonsense produced by Russians with ties to the Russian government and securing FISA warrants with that dossier as probable cause to wiretap Trump and his campaign staff should send people in the Dept of Justice to prison.

posted November 01, 2017 10:55 AM            

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She is an obsession.

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posted November 01, 2017 02:18 PM            

If we are to get to thr bottom of all this taking sides is not going to help. Tromp is not Superman and Clinton is not the Wicked Witch of the West. The fact that this story is supposed to cancel out the main investigation.. into whether the Russians did in fact interfere.. Whether or not they succeeded.. and who helped or invited them..why Tromp wants to make others' wrong doing the issue when he has yet to be accused.. is a bogus stance. Quite likely they are all guilty of shenanigans and also possibly the investigators are not entirely straight either (on all sides).

posted November 01, 2017 02:35 PM            

Too bad the focus is never on the truth and justice that is presumably sought. Because, they are the enemy.

Are we not all IN THIS TOGETHER???

posted November 01, 2017 02:37 PM            

Richard Steele...who was hired to go to his Russian thug friends to get phony dirt on Trump IS NOT AN AMERICAN. Neither are the Russian thugs tied to the Russian government who fed Steele the lies for the Trump Dossier..Americans.

The money, about $9 Million was laundered through a DC law firm to hide it's source(s)...which were the Hillary The Corrupt campaign and the democrat national committee.

posted November 01, 2017 06:19 PM            

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Some people will be disbarred over this.

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posted November 01, 2017 06:26 PM            

He produces one indictment irrelevant to the collusion claim and another that refutes it.

“The capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them,” said Vladimir Lenin. Today’s Russian leaders, in light of Hillary’s graft, could update the saying and give it an ironic twist: the socialists in America will sell us the materials with which we will bomb them.

That blatant quid pro quo — Hillary Clinton and her cronies in the Obama administration signed off on giving Russia 20 percent of America’s uranium production after her family foundation received millions from Russians in the uranium industry — cries out for a special investigation. Making the appearance of the sale even worse is that it is now known that the approval of it came at the very moment the Obama administration knew all about the Russian uranium industry’s bribery practices.

Yet when Trump brought this up during the campaign — “Hillary Clinton’s State Department approved the transfer of 20% of America’s uranium holdings to Russia, while nine investors in the deal funneled $145 million to the Clinton foundation” — the media shrugged. Suddenly cooperation with Russia didn’t look so bad. Now the media is giving a similar shrug to Hillary’s secret payments to a former British spy who used Russian smear merchants to try to torpedo Trump’s candidacy.

The commentariat’s windy warnings about “foreign interference in our elections” have ended and been replaced by discourses on the propriety of “opposition research,” the value of which is determined not by its origin but by its accuracy. So say the same Democrats and liberal pundits who spent a year whining about the accurate information released by WikiLeaks on the Podesta emails. Hillary is still sore at the press for not averting its gaze from that accurate information. She actually argues in her campaign memoir that the media had a duty not to report on improperly obtained and released information, regardless of its authenticity. Instead, it should have been reporting on false charges made by a “well-respected” British spy, she writes, without informing her readers that he was on her payroll.

All of this is rich fodder for investigation. But, instead, we get a lumbering investigation from an overrated ruling-class darling that so far has yielded one indictment completely irrelevant to his supposed Trump-Russia focus and another that actually undermines it. Robert Mueller’s Manafort indictment is so far afield it doesn’t even relate to Trump. Ironically, it implicates the lobbying outfit co-founded by Hillary’s campaign manager, the Podesta Group. John Podesta started it with his brother Tony, who joined forces with Manafort to lobby for the Ukrainians and now finds himself in the crosshairs of Mueller.

Meanwhile, the Papadopoulos indictment involves a self-important Trump campaign volunteer who haplessly lied to the FBI about his own foolish free-lancing. George Papadopoulos was a twentysomething unpaid volunteer who belonged to a foreign policy advisory group that met with Trump a grand total of one time. All that is known about Papadopoulos is that he pestered Trump campaign officials about meeting with the Russians and was turned down each time. If anything, his email exchanges with Trump officials dramatically refute the collusion claim.

According to the Washington Post in August, Papadopoulos’s pestering “sent a ripple of concern through campaign headquarters in Trump Tower.” The paper continued:

Campaign co-chairmen Sam Clovis wrote that he thought NATO allies should be consulted before any plans were made. Another Trump adviser, retired Navy Rear Adm. Charles Kubic, cited legal concerns, including a possible violation of U.S. sanctions against Russia and of the Logan Act, which prohibits U.S. citizens from unauthorized negotiation with foreign governments.

From the feverish questioning about Papadopoulos yesterday by the media, one would have thought he occupied an office at Trump Tower. In fact, he was just one of countless volunteers whom the Post in August described as a callow nuisance: “Less than a decade out of college, Papadopoulos appeared to hold little sway within the campaign.… His entreaties appear to have generated more concern than excitement within the campaign.”

The circumspection of the Trump campaign stands in striking contrast to the hubris of Hillary’s. About the Trump side, we hear a lot of chatter about proposed meetings that never happened or rejected offers of information. Yet on Hillary’s side lies the glaring fact that she paid for foreign dirt to influence the outcome of the election.

posted November 01, 2017 06:29 PM            

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You guys have a strange idea of due process.

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posted November 02, 2017 02:50 PM            

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Perfect reply jwhop.

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posted November 02, 2017 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Well, of course they'll have a fair trial before they're hanged.

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Wow.

posted November 02, 2017 04:17 PM            

Yet you knowingly voted for a sexual predator, that you still defend."

posted November 02, 2017 11:39 PM            

Instead, Donald Trump won and Hillary The Corrupt and democrat scandals are being exposed.

Rep. DeSantis: ‘We Know Now Without a Shadow of a Doubt’ Hillary and Democrats Colluded with Russia
Dan Riehl
2 Nov 2017
Washington, DC

Rep. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) spoke with Breitbart News Daily SiriusXM host Alex Marlow on Thursday regarding a proposed Mueller amendment to limit the special counsel investigation to between March 2015 and the present, and also tax reform in the House.

“We know now without a shadow of a doubt that the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, paid Fusion GPS and Steele to acquire this dossier, which required colluding with Russian operatives and Russian nationals. So, they produced this dossier and I believe, yesterday I called for the FBI, the Justice Department to declassify all the FISA applications involving Trump associates because what I think happened is, I think they used the information from this dossier to be able to get surveillance on Trump and his associates.”

posted November 04, 2017 03:28 PM            

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"Without a shadow of a doubt"..."I think"..hmmm...

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Yeah, without a doubt; Hillary The Corrupt and the DNC were the sources of the money to collude with Russians with ties to the Russian government for dirt on Trump. The fact the dirt was all lies is immaterial.

Hillary The Corrupt actually did what democrats accuse Trump of doing...colluding with Russia to effect the outcome of the Presidential election.

posted November 04, 2017 04:44 PM            

The continued sparring over Hillary is entertaining....

Damn if she isn`t the most popular person in America and the cancer eating biased minds.