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pire
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posted May 08, 2018 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It make sense to me to try to stop Iran from getting a nuclear bomb.
Although I don't know much of the details of this agreement that Trump hate and wants to break, I don't really understand why all the nations seem to be so ready to accept it as it is.

That said, Trump is further isolating the US, by punishing every country that will make business deal with Iran, resentment against the US could grow among its allies.

Why alienating your allies ?

I think Trump is shuffling the cards here, and it may surprise some of you but I think this move is quite a good chance for the world. I don't like the idea of Iran with a nuclear bomb. Now or in the future. But that may mean that a conflict with another middle east country awaits the US young boys and girls.

But that is the choice of Donald Trump, it could have been different, hearing to the other world leader such as China, Russia, Germany, UK or France. But it could give a better outcome for peace ultimately, in the long run i think

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Catalina
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posted May 09, 2018 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how does the deal give Iran the power to make a nuclear bomb or arsenal?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-donald-trump-iran-nuclear-deal-end-us-macron-france-rouhani-mogherini-a8342501.html

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juniperb
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posted May 09, 2018 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one wants Iran with a nuke but the Don and Bibi do not have one iota of proof they are making them.


Trump has become Bibi`s water boy. He thinks Israel is the new global god.

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posted May 09, 2018 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"No one wants Iran with a nuke but the Don and Bibi do not have one iota of proof they are making them."

They, Iran are enriching Uranium, all their centrifuges are running at top speed. Can't make a nuclear bomb without enriched Uranium.

Besides...I guess you didn't get the memo but Israel stole tens of thousands of nuclear documents right out from under Iran's terrorist noses.

What those documents show is that Iran was engaged in nuclear weapons development. When they were found out, they changed the name of the nuclear program and proceeded.

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Catalina
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posted May 09, 2018 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And just like Iraq andf proven later..no one else believes this. Meanwhile in Iraq the oilfields are producing for the people who were sure of WMDs there

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posted May 09, 2018 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Besides...I guess you didn't get the memo but Israel stole tens of thousands of nuclear documents right out from under Iran's terrorist noses

So says Bibi and his henchmen and the don buys it hook line and sinker.

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jwhop
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posted May 09, 2018 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
" Meanwhile in Iraq the oilfields are producing for the people who were sure of WMDs there"

Who would those people be?

Let's see Juni:

You doubt the authenticity of the records Bibi displayed for the world to see?

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posted May 10, 2018 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those "records" are not a smoking gun. Most of the info was available in a 2015 report. The rest is smoke and mirrors.

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Randall
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posted May 10, 2018 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You seriously think those whack jobs aren't trying to develop a nuclear weapon? And you seriously think the "agreement" stopped them? Seriously? It doesn't even allow us to search inside military sites! This is the number one state sponsor of terrorism we are talking about.

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jwhop
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posted May 10, 2018 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Most of the info was available in a 2015 report"

2015? Really?

"The warehouse storing the files was located in the Shorabad suburb in southern Tehran, in an industrial area. Mossad discovered the warehouse in February 2016, and had had the building under surveillance since then. Before arriving at the site, the secret archives had been moved by Iranian authorities several times in a bid to keep their whereabouts a secret."

"In late January of this year, Mossad agents received pinpoint information pointing them to certain safes in a specific container inside the warehouse. The team then broke in, removed the files and transferred them to a secondary location."
http://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-agents-snuck-nuclear-files-out-of-iran-with-authorities-on-their-tails/

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