posted July 16, 2018 03:08 PM            

What's more likely, that every member of these intelligence agencies is somehow corrupted, or the hostile foreign power is lying?

If this isn't treason I'm not sure what is

Trump's goal is to undermine and dismantle all of the US state, including intelligence agencies, then reinstall his own gustappo, then he, Putin, and the other autocrats can have full control and do whatever they want.

If you're supporting Trump you're supporting moral corruption, you are disloyal and not patriotic to the United States, and you are betraying the authority of the founding fathers.

The United States Code at 18 U.S.C. § 2381 states:

posted July 16, 2018 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:

Trump's goal is to undermine and dismantle all of the US state, including intelligence agencies, then reinstall his own gustappo, then he, Putin, and the other autocrats can have full control and do whatever they want

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I don't think Trump thinks that far, I mean look at the man, all he thinks is ME ME ME ME ...

They probably have a pipi tape and he is interested in not getting outed.

Regarding the critics against Trump supporters, I highly doubt that after what you write they will turn around and say, " hey, you know what, I think you are right, I am currently supporting a traitor, why hadn't I thought about it before, thanks for opening my eyes "

Seriously, if Trump is gotten rid of, it is because the opposition is able to PROPOSE something that federate enough voters AND ENOUGH ELECTOR OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

I mean if one tries to convince his voters that they are wrong and do not create a political momentum equal, or bigger than Trump did and keep doing, it is already lost.

posted July 16, 2018 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Treasonous Trump the traitor"

Spoken like the unhinged leftist you are!
Embarrassing!

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posted July 16, 2018 06:08 PM            

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Originally posted by pire:
right wings all over the world think they are the only one who love truly their countries, that is embarrassing

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Not sure which country or countries leftists love, but it's sure not the United States.

My guess would be:
Cuba
Venezuela
North Korea
Defunct Soviet Union
Defunct East Germany
among other Communist Socialist Meccas

posted July 16, 2018 10:59 PM            

Lock him up!!

Here's a list of countries you might enjoy moving to:

posted July 16, 2018 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
Can't wait for the pee pee tapes!

Lock him up!!

Here's a list of countries you might enjoy moving to:

Sociopathia
1939 Germany
The magical isle of grouchy old white men with hemorrhoids

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Can't make up your mind which Socialist Communist country to emigrate to?

Let me choose one for you.

posted July 17, 2018 04:28 AM            

Socialist Countries are masters of blocking Free International Trade through Tariffs. USA should be just fine for Leftists and Socialists. Now that Putin is confirmed as Lord and Master of Trump, a bit of Communism might also creep in.

Jokes apart, big takeaways from Putin's interviews yesterday:
1. "Patriotic" Russian Hackers did indeed hack the DNC. Putin rationalized the hacking stating that since the hacked info was not fake news, it was a legitimate Operation.
Yes, as per GOP, Putin can rob American Banks as long as the currency taken from the vaults belongs to Democrats and is not counterfeit cash.

2. Trump has been lying that Obama wanted to allow Putin to enable Hillary to win. But Putin admitted that he wanted Trump to win all along.

3. Putin wanted NATO to be totally null and void.

Point 3 explains why Trump termed European Union as a "Foe". Putin even wanted Mueller to work with FSB/GRU! He could be having a copy of the Nuclear football by now.

I do not think there is any "Kompromat". I do not believe there is any "Pee Tape". I think
the Trump-Putin alliance against the US Intelligence [FBI, CIA, NSA] and Allies like Canada, Mexico and NATO Countries is a long term conspiracy successfully hatched by White Christian Evangelists who want a Unified White Right Wing Global Control against the Gnostic Illuminati (who are pro-Human Rights and pro-Equality) with Putin as the Leader to keep Europe/Vatican/China in check on their behalf while they consolidate power in USA through further subversion of the Electoral process with full backing of Russian Hackers.

Koch and Mercer have been Putin lovers for years, hence Cambridge Analytica was used along with compromised Facebook for data mining.

The outrage by some GOP members is short term, NRA is funneling tens of millions to them from Russia [one spy just caught, Maria Butina].

But Putin is a thug who did not hesitate to use Novichok on British Soil. He will not hesitate to give Polonium Tea and Novichok Cookies to influential Americans who oppose him.

IMHO, The White Evangelists and Supremacist Oligarchs in USA have made an existential error of judgment by throwing US Intelligence under the bus just because of their hatred towards one Black Muslim Man who dared to defeat them in elections. There is also a huge fear of the increased numbers of POC in America.

The exact ramification of this "Deal with the Devil" will be manifest during Pluto Return between 2020 and 2023.

Edit: To know more about how Old, White GOP leaders think, check out Sacha Baron Cohen's expose when he pretended to be from the Israeli Military and wanted kids as young as 3 to be taught how to handle guns. http://www.archyworldys.com/sacha-baron-cohen-persuaded-ignorant-politicians-to-use-blink-182-and-cardi-b-as-reasons-to-arm-schoolchildren/

It should be a cakewalk for Putin to brainwash such leaders. Manchurian Candidates are the new GOP?

posted July 17, 2018 08:09 AM            

I have been considering in the past concepts of CONSPIRACIES, and things like that, but nothing can NOT, and will not happen, if the population is not authorizing it. No matter how clever a conspiracy would be, if it was anything real in the first place.

Bringing fear and supposedly enlightened concepts that play with a loss of power du to a conspiracy by occult people isn't AT ALL empowering anyone, changing anything, and rely solely on the assumption of some scared delusional people who spread around fear and darkness.

Empowerment is key,

Taking action,

Proposing a new vision,

Brainstorming with the nation, together

Finding solutions and if not possible, compromises, that benefit the most...

posted July 17, 2018 08:34 AM            

We have seen the power of excessive hatred, the result is a Trump-Putin Axis with racism mainstreamed, immigrants humiliated, Women/LGBTQ rights under threat, health care wrecked for the poor, money transfer from poor to the wealthy by Tax Cuts given to those who did not need it and environmental destruction by stopping all vital regulations in the EPA.

If the Left wing and Democrats reply to hatred with more hatred, only a Civil War will occur considering that each and every American is armed with multiple weapons.

Left of Center, Centrists, Liberals etc must reply to hatred by genuine, logical commitment to Democracy: Register and Vote 100%. Communicate to each and every unregistered Citizen to vote for each and every election be it local, state seats or for the Houses. And of course the Presidential Election.

This time, close to 5 million millennials, Independents and Bernie fans avoided voting because they felt Bernie was cheated.

Let us give credit to Putin where it is due, he ensured all of Trump's base turned out. Putin won the election fair and square because no rigging of votes was done, he just influenced everyone using every local fear trigger word and used a convincing Candidate in Trump to deliver the Demagoguery.

Democracy was taken for granted and that was the crime committed by the educated, the humanists, liberals and the milennials.

Another point in Trump's favor: He said never trust the opinion polls, and he is right. Opinion Polls are rigged. This time, the rigging will show a false Blue Wave to make millennials stay back once again. There is no Blue Wave. It has to start from grassroots.

If GOP wins the Congress and Senate in November, and after that they sack Mueller and Co, then it is 100% a Democratically approved process. If Majority vote for Putin to take full control, then Majority wins.
Like it or not, that is Democracy. There is no point in whining if people just do not care enough to go out there and vote.

posted July 17, 2018 02:25 PM            

I`m weary of the hate. I never in my life seen such hate and fear running amok. It`s like citizens are giving the green light to behave like their uncivil, hate mongering ego driven potus.

posted July 17, 2018 03:54 PM            

How much did he "Misspeak" when closeted for 2 hours totally alone with the most powerful KGB Handler in Russian History? Putin must have inserted command after command after command into his Subconscious Mind.

My gut feelings is that Trump will act on these hypnotic suggestions immediately after the Lunar Eclipse.

There was a very creepy moment in the press conference when Trump as usual lied "I have full Faith in my Intelligence Agencies", suddenly the lights went out. Trump immediately quipped that it must be the Intelligence Agencies. He really hates US Intelligence agencies.

@Teasel: Trump Cult has an unnaturally high percentage of Sociopaths. They just want to see successful people burn, especially POC.
So many videos on twitter going viral about MAGA Racists using the N***** word, "Permit Pattys" who try to call cops on POC and Black People, knowing fully well that cops will kill a Black man and then ask questions.

The good news is that most of them are above 40. Millennials are almost 90% certain to vote Democrat, plus 95% + Latino vote is guaranteed. The trick is to coax every neutral/independent to get out there, register and vote.

Trump has no fundamental knowledge of economics, hence he imposes Tariffs. Tariffs create inflation and the Tax Cuts prevent any extra cash for stimulus packages. US Deficit is climbing, new investment is not occurring because Corporations used Tax Cuts for Stock Buyback rather than open new factories. Wage Growth has stalled, and all this will create a very sudden stagflation in 2019 and 2020 might even see a mini-recession. All this will help Democrats boost numbers if they stop the Reactionary Hatred Response and start offering new solutions for education, humane immigration laws, healthcare, Women's right to choose, low cost housing, better climate change response [example: Not letting Puerto Rico suffer again] and judicious tax slabs.

This tragic phase in US History is indirectly the greatest opportunity for Americans to cleanse the GOP and eradicate the influence of bigoted Old White Men [ plus NRA traitors...]

posted July 17, 2018 07:15 PM            

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teasel

I`m weary of the hate. I never in my life seen such hate and fear running amok. It`s like citizens are giving the green light to behave like their uncivil, hate mongering ego driven potus.

heartbreaking and shameful. , I know

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posted July 17, 2018 08:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
What's heartbreaking and shameful is the "tolerant" left being anything but.

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No, it's shameful that you try to shame Democrats into tolerating hatred.

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Originally posted by Randall:
Juni, you speak of hate, but then you pile it all on the right side. Apparently, your own hatred for President Trump makes you blind to that of the unhinged left, which is everywhere to be seen.

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