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Catalina
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posted August 22, 2018 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The questions and how you phrase them make all the difference
http://action.donaldjtrump.com/msm-media-accountability-survey/?

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jwhop
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posted August 22, 2018 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Voters are with the President on almost all of those survey questions.

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Catalina
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posted August 23, 2018 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His base may be. The questions are highly prompting and the multiple choices allow for nothing but "wot he said" or "no". I doubt many people who don't vote for him will answer it. As with many polls, hence their schmoll-ness 🤣

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posted August 23, 2018 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
His base may be. The questions are highly prompting and the multiple choices allow for nothing but "wot he said" or "no". I doubt many people who don't vote for him will answer it. As with many polls, hence their scmoll-ness 🤣

Exactly right. I tried once. What a joke their own "poll" is.

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jwhop
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posted August 23, 2018 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, wait, here's a sample of American sentiment on one of Trump's questions. Read em and weep leftists.

•80% of American adults support "stricter border control to try to reduce illegal immigration." This includes
93% Republicans
76% Democrats
83% Independents
74% Blacks
61% Hispanics
and 75% of 18-39 year olds (ABC News/Washington Post, April 2013).

Even democrats and independents are against you...and George Soros Open Borders nonsense.

So, go ahead leftist loons, run on abolishing ICE and throwing open America's borders!

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Catalina
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posted August 23, 2018 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, WELL then! I agreed with you on one or two occasions.. does that mean I back everything you say and anything you might plan to do about anything? Get a grip!

In 2013 no one ever dreamed they would be offered this president OR his hyperbolic narcissism as a solution to anything.

The man who howled for the blood of the Central Park 5 even after they were proven innocent.

The man who staked his claim to nomination on insulting a sitting Presidents birthright.. only to have to reneg on that ( as minimally as possible).

The man who literally lives in a gilded cage by choice because he is so desperate to impress.

And who uses the premiere fake news outlet to bury stories that might bury him.

No..a 2013 survey with such a broad question says nothing about "most Amer iui cans" agreeing with him about anything much.

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Catalina
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posted August 23, 2018 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You have to know your arguments are ridiculous. Because I think the poll is ridiculously slanted I must be for open borders. Because people don't
like this condescending, lying bully they must be leftists. Because you call Obama a Marxist he must be. Because ICE needs serious reforming,
we can't have immigration control at all. Rubbish, all of it.

Because purple is not black it must be white, right?

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posted August 23, 2018 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
You have to know your arguments are ridiculous. Because I think the poll is ridiculously slanted I must be for open borders. Because people don't
like this condescending, lying bully they must be leftists. Because you call Obama a Marxist he must be. Because ICE needs serious reforming,
we can't have immigration control at all. Rubbish, all of it.

Because purple is not black it must be white, right?


The polls on the questions Trump posed are not slanted. If you didn't have your head up the kazoo of CNN, MSNBC, Puffington Post and other leftist lunatic sites, you'd know that.

That said, Barack Obama is just another in the long line of bungling, incompetent boob Marxists. Trump is straightening out the multiple messes The Marxist Messiah left in his wake. You don't like it, learn to live with it because I don't see the President letting up on the throttle of good government.

ICE are doing their jobs. They're finding, apprehending and deporting illegal aliens...including gang bangers of MS13..and other gang banger criminals.

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posted August 23, 2018 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The poll you quoted was 5 years ago. No trompo to agree or disagree with at the time. And no question on this poll that actually parallels it.

A general question about the need for more effective border control doesn't indicate that people think the press picks on republicans, are liars, and so forth. Whatever results it gets will likely indicate only one thing.. that those who disagree with his posturing won't be answering it. So, like other skewed polls, its just fake justification.

And it's not about immigration is it? It's about do you think the press picks on him or is he perfect?

Lol. Six of one, a half dozen of the same one.

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jwhop
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posted August 23, 2018 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Whatever results it gets will likely indicate only one thing.. that those who disagree with his posturing won't be answering it"

Well, if you don't want your opinions to be considered then....don't participate in polls.

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Catalina
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posted August 24, 2018 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The opinions of anyone who varies slightly from his script will not be considered here. The questions make it pretty much impossible. As the intro to the survey admits, the purpose is to make it clear that "we" agree with what he is pushing. It is not asking anyone's opinion, but respondents validation.

It is a survey format replication of his rallies where all you have to know is when to chant.

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jwhop
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posted August 24, 2018 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The opinions of anyone who varies slightly from his script will not be considered here. The questions make it pretty much impossible. As the intro to the survey admits, the purpose is to make it clear that "we" agree with what he is pushing."

Let's just look at the 1st 3 questions on the survey you're whining, wheezing and sniveling about.

1.Do you believe that the mainstream media actually cares about working Americans?

Yes
No
No Opinion

2.Do you believe that the mainstream media has unfairly reported on our presidency?

Yes
No
No Opinion

3.Do you trust MSNBC to fairly report on our presidency?

Yes
No
No Opinion

Now, tell us you don't know how to mark NO or YES...to state your opinion.

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Catalina
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posted August 24, 2018 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This survey was not sent to me but to people who already support him.


Sent by email to Trump supporters, but not publicized outside GOP ranks, the survey is actually a shrewd marketing tool. Similar to “push polls” used in political campaigns, it seeks to foster opinions rather than gather them.

In urging his supporters to take the survey, he leaves no doubt about the goal: “To show the media that the American people are fed up with the Fake News Machine.”

In fact as soon as he realized Outsiders were aware of and answering it he sent another email to his supporters

The President emailed you to take the urgent Mainstream Media Accountability Survey. Since then, mainstream media outlets have viciously attacked it...
and thousands of Democrats have taken it to try to sabotage the results. Which is why we need your IMMEDIATE help as one of President Trump’s biggest supporters,” the email reads.

http://www.dailydot.com/layer8/trump-media-accountability-survey-democrats-liberals

In other words, people whose answers were NOT YES were "ATTACKING and trying to SABOTAGE ." by answering.

Implication, your opinion is not wanted unless it backs me up. Also.. the American People are only those who answer yes to guff like this.

From the horse's mouth to your eyes.. he is trying to unite his base, not the American people, two thirds of whom he completely discounts

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Catalina
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posted August 24, 2018 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mainstream Media
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-forbidden-i-word-1535064815?mod=e2fb

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jwhop
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posted August 24, 2018 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"This survey was not sent to me but to people who already support him."

Then why bring up this survey and snivel about it? It has nothing to do with you.

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Catalina
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posted August 24, 2018 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't snivel jwhop. This "poll" is an example of how questions lead answers. It claims to speak for the American People but considers most of them to be irrelevant at best, more likely saboteurs.

The only way he can get a poll that backs him up is to exclude the majority of the American people he is supposedly working for.

Thanks for demonstrating how you fill in the blanks that aren't even there

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posted August 24, 2018 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
I don't snivel jwhop. This "poll" is an example of how questions lead answers. It claims to speak for the American People but considers most of them to be irrelevant at best, more likely saboteurs.

The only way he can get a poll that backs him up is to exclude the majority of the American people he is supposedly working for.

Thanks for demonstrating how you fill in the blanks that aren't even there


Let me repeat.

This survey has nothing to do with you. Yet, here you are sniveling about a survey you didn't take.

I could post surveys from Puffington Post and other leftist lunatic sites, but I don't because they're a waste of space and electronic digits and Randall is paying for this usage.

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