posted August 28, 2018 12:18 PM            

IF is the operative word here, because by his own submission he got the number wrong by a decimal point

In 2011, King presented a resolution that offered a different calculus.

“According to the Government Accountability Office,” it read, “there have been 25,064 homicide arrests of criminal aliens since 1955.”

That’s about 1.2 per day.

posted August 28, 2018 01:20 PM            

U.S. Sheriffs fed up as 25 Americans are killed each day by illegal immigrants
Aug 21, 2015 Source: examiner.com

Data from U.S. Sheriff’s offices revealing the startling fact that about 25 Americans are killed each day by illegal immigrants, has forced the concern that President Barack Obama’s biggest political enemy many not be the upcoming Republican Senate and House after all.....

http://redice.tv/news/u-s-sheriffs-fed-up-as-25-americans-are-killed-each-day-by-illegal-immigrants

posted August 28, 2018 11:15 PM            

I'm sorry.

posted September 02, 2018 11:22 PM            

Immigration issues are painted as being urgentt because all those brown folk are evil and dangerous. To claim they are Bad People is an unnecessary justification aimed at frightening people. And to insinuate that the victims cultural views have anything to do with her death is just as pathetic

The fact that the vast majority of murders and gun crime are committed by citizens and that immigrants as a collective actually commit fewer crimes statistically than the rest of us.. makes this an opportunist's chorale. Not one person shall be checked or refused when buying guns.. that gives undocumented folk an easy access doesn't it?

Like the shooter in Fla for instance:
Apparently not a commie except in some people's preconceptions
http://www.factcheck.org/2018/08/anti-trump-comment-falsely-linked-to-florida-shooter/

posted September 02, 2018 11:51 PM            

When middle road CNN reports that they have information about something from someone, it is (shriek)"fake news!". When Rush and Harris claim they KNOW false facts, their audience don't challenge them.

Congrats to Gateway pundit and infowars for having the ball*s to admit error.

posted September 03, 2018 01:01 AM            

Immigration issues are urgent for multiple reasons only one of which being cultural differences. Cultural not racial. Our own modern cultural "views" can and do shape our affairs. That's reality in adult land. A Western Euro woman backpacks alone through Pakistan because her culture has told her we're all the same kumbaya and she should find herself among the noble savage third worlders but instead she finds herself dead in a ditch. An American woman gets herself shite faced drunk, stumbles into a frat party and stumbles out raped and beaten because her culture told her woman are strong and independent. Roar! Women 100 years ago were generally not so willfully stupid - but, hey, different culture. Culture forms our perception, it influences our decisions. Did Molly's very typical "I hate white people" millennial cultural view directly lead to her death? I've no idea. To suggest the possibility is "pathetic" or unreasonable is dangerously naïve. It's getting people killed, in fact. Stop it.

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Foreigners and commies; the bogeymen who never go out of style

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Get out of here with this. We literally have anarcho communists rioting in the streets

posted September 03, 2018 02:00 PM            

Huh? What?

Who said murderers are to be excused if they're citizens?

Hang them high, cremate their bodies and spread their ashes in a garbage dump.

"Not one person shall be checked or refused when buying guns.. that gives undocumented folk an easy access doesn't it?"

What? Huh?

Lots of people fail their background check and are refused the sale of firearms. Only in the leftist bubble world of unreality is your comment true.

"When middle road CNN reports that they have information about something from someone, it is (shriek)"fake news!"."

posted September 03, 2018 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:

An American woman gets herself shite faced drunk, stumbles into a frat party and stumbles out raped and beaten because her culture told her woman are strong and independent. Roar! Women 100 years ago were generally not so willfully stupid - but, hey, different culture.

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What the **** ?! Men have always been the pigs that think they can rape someone, just because she's drunk, or just because she's there, you mean. And I know #notallmen. God forbid that a poor man gets punished for forcing himself on a girl who must have been asking for it. What was she wearing? Was she alone? Why didn't she have mace? Why didn't she have a gun? Not: WHY DID THEY THINK IT WAS OKAY TO RAPE HER?

posted September 03, 2018 09:47 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
What the **** ?! Men have always been the pigs that think they can rape someone, just because she's drunk, or just because she's there, you mean. And I know #notallmen. God forbid that a poor man gets punished for forcing himself on a girl who must have been asking for it. What was she wearing? Was she alone? Why didn't she have mace? Why didn't she have a gun? Not: WHY DID THEY THINK IT WAS OKAY TO RAPE HER?

You get out of here with that.

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Very seriously, what are you on about?

Literally nothing in your post at all pertains directly to my post, so no idea why you quoted me. You've accomplished nothing but to rattle off the head in the sand cultural views I referenced above. I guess I should say thanks for proving the point.

posted September 03, 2018 09:50 PM            

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Originally posted by pire:
I got lost in you post shura, at first I agreed. To me illegal imigration is wrong because it is not allowed. Period. I would love to live in a world with no imigration laws, as I believe a very little number would travel, as I did when I lived in the Uk, until I returned back home, unless forced by economic reasons.

But anyway, your post is just full of hatred and prejudice, beyond what I can read and understand. So you lost me

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ok. Here's what I think

I would love to live in a world with no imigration laws

posted September 04, 2018 05:42 AM            

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Originally posted by shura:

ok. Here's what I think

I would love to live in a world with no imigration laws

I think this is an irresponsible and dangerous position. It might feel good, it might sound good, it certainly flies the approved flag, but it disregards the well being of the everyday, law abiding citizen. I could toss the overused "hateful!" "bigot!!" accusations in your direction, under the assumption that you hold some sort of animosity toward that citizen you so casually condemn but, for now, I'm going to stick with 'self serving and willfully ignorant.'

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Let's get into details :

- My comment on HATEFUL and PREJUDICE was directed at a post, i.e. a comment, i.e. an idea, NOT A PERSON, therefore I don't think you should toss the accusation of hateful toward me.

- a world without border would not necessarily "disregard the wellbeing of the law abiding citizen" . Why would it ?

- my concept of no borders isn't to be taken literally. My point is clear, I think ILLEGAL imigration must be enforced, but i am ok with imigration.

- French or Norwegian can easily get a visa in the US, and vice versa, why not a bangladeshi or a kenyan ?

The last point should be developed cause that is where the real issues lies I think.

Namely :

What about religion differences ?
What about cultural differences ?
What about economics differences ?

And just the way thoses topics are brought up should be debated. The way I framed the questions. Is it right ? That is debatable.

a world without border is indeed an utopy at the moment, but if you take the EU, we abolished them.
There is still a border police that intervene inside the EU but not at the border.

We were at war, bitter enemies for centuries, and over the past decades we changed that. How ? Why ? It is possible !

posted September 05, 2018 12:02 AM            

There have been potentially 39 million cases in the last four years in which Americans have had their identities and Social Security Numbers stolen by illegal aliens, a new investigation reveals.

During an interview with SiriusXM Patriot’s Breitbart News Tonight, executive director of the Immigration Reform Law Insitute (IRLI) Dale Wilcox revealed to Breitbart News Senior Editor-at-Large Rebecca Mansour that their latest investigation revealed 39 million cases between 2012 and 2016 where names on W-2 tax forms did not match corresponding Social Security records.

If each fraudulent Social Security Number user submitted only one W-2 form a year under a fake identity, this still amounts to nearly ten million individuals using stolen identities of American citizens. There are more than 12 million illegal aliens currently living in the United States.

Wilcox said American children are the most vulnerable to illegal aliens stealing their identities and using their Social Security Numbers to work in the country.

“Studies have found that it affects children the most because see illegal aliens prefer to use children’s’ Social Security Numbers because your child … won’t apply for a loan for years, so the illegal aliens probably won’t be caught for decades possibly,” Wilcox said.

“A lot of Americans are being harmed by this. These poor kids, when they go to get their first school loan or car loan, they’ve got criminal histories … and bad credit,” Wilcox said. “This is not a victimless crime.”

posted September 05, 2018 12:38 PM            

I am neither an immigrant nor undocumented and certainly had no idea that I was registered wrong (SS# wasn't printed on pay stubs). I don't have a W2 so no one's taxes were paid out of my earnings.

So pardon me for taking this wild speculation of massive fraud with a pinch of salt. Bitebarf runs with totally unsubstantiated info once again.

In many auto-fill forms the cursor can jump around erratically.. i had to try many times recently to fill my own SS# correctly on an application.

posted September 08, 2018 11:02 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Hey pyre, get a grip.

America isn't joining your little one world Socialist Gulag, ever.

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posted September 08, 2018 11:41 PM            

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My comment on HATEFUL and PREJUDICE was directed at a post, i.e. a comment, i.e. an idea, NOT A PERSON, therefore I don't think you should toss the accusation of hateful toward me.

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This is a bit tedious though. "I said your post is hateful, not you!" lol. I think we're indulging in a bit of virtue signaling here but whatev we can state the obvious: I won't say YOU are self serving and ignorant but your post sure was. Better?

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a world without border would not necessarily "disregard the wellbeing of the law abiding citizen" . Why would it ?

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Because a world without borders is a world without laws. Borders form nations. Nations require governments, governments protect citizen's rights through laws, laws protect the lawful. Your only way out of this equation is the One World Gov option. If you want to go there, I'll hand you back to Jwhop.

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my concept of no borders isn't to be taken literally. My point is clear, I think ILLEGAL imigration must be enforced, but i am ok with immigration

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you didn't say that. You said you "would love to live in a world with no immigration law." Sounds like no borders to me.

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French or Norwegian can easily get a visa in the US, and vice versa, why not a bangladeshi or a kenyan ?

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Which Norwegian? Which Kenyan? citation?

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What about religion differences ?
What about cultural differences ?
What about economics differences ?
And just the way thoses topics are brought up should be debated. The way I framed the questions. Is it right ? That is debatable.
a world without border is indeed an utopy at the moment, but if you take the EU, we abolished them.

We were at war, bitter enemies for centuries, and over the past decades we changed that. How ? Why ?

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Post WW2 Euro fatigue followed by US domination. Religious cultural and economic differences which fueled your wars have been suppressed. The US experienced the same when state/regional differences were suppressed via industrialism and federalism post Civil War. Always works the same.(Incidentally, "states rights" advocates are now considered as suspect in the US as nationalists are in Europe. hmmm.)

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There is still a border police that intervene inside the EU but not at the border.

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There's a problem - youre policing friendly borders and neglecting hostile borders. (see:Ceuta) Why?