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Topic: The Sad Tale of Brexit
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 6300
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 16, 2018 11:53 AM
  
After a campaign of lies the leaders basically did a bunk as soon as they won.. and the break looks more like being the UK than Europe at this point, with millions feeling the hard pinch of continued and deepening "austerity" that enticed them to vote Leave in the first place.. http://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/the-men-who-gave-us-brexit-will-never-pay-its-price-joyce-mcmillan-1-4830637? IP: Logged |
iQ
Moderator Posts: 5674
From: Lyra
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 17, 2018 03:56 AM
They asked for it. The right wing in UK is more foolish than the Alt-Right in America.One nitwit Politician on BBC was going on about how Britain has enough great deals to be on their own, forgetting that their best deals were negotiated by EU. Farrage and Boris lied about Healthcare investments as well. It was a Putin/FSB Plan from the start, using Facebook [KGB Funded] to influence Old Brits and Racists. They created Fake News about British Muslims and East European Workers, used FB to target the gullible with the fake news. Nearly every Brexit Politician is funded by KGB, and now young brits have to pay the price. EU will not spare them, they will extract 50-60 billion Euros as fines, plus will ravage British deals for decades to come. The best way forward for Britain now would be to devalue their currency to 20-25 pence per dollar/Euro or something, and create mouth watering export valuations. IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 1237
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 18, 2018 02:07 PM
As Verhofstadt rants about noncompliant states and a standing EU army. Whatcha gonna do with that army, Guy? Oh how the Germans love marching into Poland! I wonder if the natural desire for national sovereignty and a cohesive culture will ever trump economic bullying. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 103751
From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2018 03:12 PM
What a bumbling army that would be. I say we grab the popcorn and let them defend themselves.IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 6300
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 18, 2018 04:01 PM
Lol wrong screen IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 1237
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 18, 2018 04:31 PM
That army will be long gone before it's ever needed for self defense. That's an army for inhouse 'problems', meant to knock down non compliant doors. IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 1237
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 18, 2018 04:50 PM
Also, that's a disgusting and shameful way to speak of Europe. Do you think black Americans talk of Africa like that? You have migrants crawling over a half asssed and undefended fence to get into this country while waving their foreign flags and singing their foreign anthems. And you can be sure they won't put those flags down. Good for them. They know where they come from and they fight for their people. They have more loyalty and sense than the average soulless fat white American.IP: Logged |
jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 12175
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2018 05:05 PM
The sad tale of Brexit is that the British people voted to be gone from the EU...and British politicians, the EU and Globalists have done everything they could do to thwart the will of the people. IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 6300
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 18, 2018 05:58 PM
What's a disgusting way to talk about Europe? And in the presence of threats to disband/ leave NATO, what other defense would Europe have if they didn't morph into a Euro Army? Basically NATO without US under a different name; whats the big shocker?Its just Europe rattling sabers back at the original saber rattler, DT And if they're supposed to remember and be grateful that we intervened (at the very last minute) we might also remember that France helped us throw off England when we needed it. All this titt for tatt is ludicrous IP: Logged |
pire
Knowflake Posts: 2840
From: France
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2018 06:41 PM
i am happy you US citizens (and indian  ) discuss what is going on in Europe.that is our global new era IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 1237
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 18, 2018 10:03 PM
pire, we here in the colonies have been discussing Europe since we left it. It's not globalism, it's bonds of blood and culture and historyIP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 1237
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 18, 2018 10:07 PM
"What's a disgusting way to talk about Europe?"Randall's post. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 103751
From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 18, 2018 10:27 PM
America first. Countries that hate us can fend for themselves. We should keep our money here where it can help Americans. Pulling out the $1 billion plus we were sending to Pakistan every year was a great decision.IP: Logged |
iQ
Moderator Posts: 5674
From: Lyra
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2018 03:19 AM
Pulling out US Aid to Pakistan was a masterstroke as it helped Pak wake up from being spoilt complacent losers and stirred them into action towards China, Turkey and even Iran for Economic Growth. The European Army will be led by France, a Nuclear Superpower. What is the threat? Russia? Russia wants to increase GDP by supplying cheap Oil and Gas to Germany. No chance of attacks on their cash cow. The biggest threat to Europe is Wahabbi-Salafist Terror from groups nurtured by CIA Black Ops + Saudi Cash since 1980s and now gone amok by biting the hands that fed them. The major fallout of an Insular America is the end of NATO, punishment to Saudi and the end of the dollar as a Global Reserve. The Yuan, Euro and Swiss Franc will make their case as Global Reserve Currencies. Multipolarity is the way forward with a possible Canada-UK Alliance taking the lead in the Western Hemisphere. BTW, Papua New Guinea has been virtually taken over by China as has Sri Lanka and Maldives. I won't be surprised to see Russia, EU and China broker peace in Israel-Palestine in the coming decades. IP: Logged |
pire
Knowflake Posts: 2840
From: France
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2018 07:04 AM
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Originally posted by shura:
pire, we here in the colonies have been discussing Europe since we left it. It's not globalism, it's bonds of blood and culture and history
I think you fantasize about a Europe that never existed. A white Europe ? Spain was under muslim control from 711 until 1492.
A christian Europe ? Yes indeed a catholic powerful church that executed protestants.
A oivilised europe ? I mean come on ? What is civilised in colonisation, torture, killing, deportation, slave trade,... ?
Look at what we did in WWI, killings in masse our own people, thanks to improvements in industries. Are you better in any ways ? I am proudly coming from rural France, your typical average joe. Same problem of white soclial declining. But when we invaded parts of africa and claimed it belonged to France, do you think it bothered us ?
Persons of color never begged to be shipped to the american continent.
What about latinos, aren't they americans ?
Why would karma work for people, and here we all believe in it, but not for nations or cultures ? Times are changing...
And Europe never was an ideal place. Just one that went through so much turmoil and pain and horror that now it says STOP. When I hear american criticise France for example for its cowardness, I think of the tragedy of WWI that happened in France.
Anyways... i hope we, in Europe, do not repeat the past mistakes and learn to deal with problems (cause there is no denial there are some issues ) peacefully and with humanity and enlightenment. Finally living up to our idealized self IP: Logged |
pire
Knowflake Posts: 2840
From: France
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2018 07:07 AM
I know it may sound cliché what I said, but I really want to be elected miss universe  IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 103751
From: From a galaxy, far, far away...
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2018 09:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by pire:
I know it may sound cliché what I said, but I really want to be elected miss universe
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 6300
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 19, 2018 12:38 PM
Im sorry but to hear conservatives talk anyone would think the money we send abroad is purely charity. It is to protect OUR interests and keep our fingers in all the pies that we give aid and personnel and we have profited far more than any of the recipients.Millions of Americans live abroad by choice by the way, and this "wasted" money also helps them. IP: Logged |
juniperb
Moderator Posts: 11114
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 19, 2018 01:49 PM
Pire, my Aquarian friend, you have my vote!!  ------------------
Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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pire
Knowflake Posts: 2840
From: France
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2018 12:16 AM
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jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 12175
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2018 02:05 PM
Pire, You have my vote for Prom Queen.  IP: Logged |
jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 12175
From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 20, 2018 02:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by pire:
I know it may sound cliché what I said, but I really want to be elected miss universe
You have my vote for Prom Queen. IP: Logged |
shura
Knowflake Posts: 1237
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 20, 2018 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by pire:
I know it may sound cliché what I said, but I really want to be elected miss universe
 My culture is evil! Please take over!! Yeah that's a little tired. And your comments on Euro history and culture are cringe inducing inaccurate on top of it but you recognize the cliché, pire, and that's half the battle! I have hope for your awakening. quote:
I think you fantasize about a Europe that never existed.
I think you fantasize about starry eyed naïve Americans! quote:
And Europe never was an ideal place. Just one that went through so much turmoil and pain and horror that now it says STOP.
No place was ever ideal, nor will be. No, not even Europe But it's yours. Don't surrender it. IP: Logged |
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