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Randall
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posted December 04, 2018 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's what you get with a carbon tax on gas.

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posted December 04, 2018 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI: President Trump's is at 46%.

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posted December 04, 2018 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Out of 47 millions voters, 11 didn't vote or where cancelled

Out of the 36 millions counted, he got 24% on the first round

Bring that back to the 47 millions, he merely got 18 % of the electors' vote.

So you could consider it is imprssive with these number to have 23 % of approval, of the 67 million population overall.

Having said that he is not the dream for anyone. And being pro trump or pro le pen is not the only solution when one is not made to feel the dream by people like Macron or Clinton.

making those populist the only alternative is simply communication

Not liking macron is not synonym to liking lepen, same in the US. If you think Clinton wasn't elected because Trump won, I think you should remeber that she wasn't elected because some of bernies voters didn't show up for her.

times will change, and maybe one day THEY will be boastering like the nationalists do it.

Sadly

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posted December 04, 2018 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
FYI: President Trump's is at 46%.

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posted December 04, 2018 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 04, 2018 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 04, 2018 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's why I quoted a percentage and not a number. President Trump has twice the popularity of Macron.

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posted December 06, 2018 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Macron has a lower approval rating than the media.

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posted December 06, 2018 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The purpose of the media is to mind control masses. The media is owned by big corporations.

No one is hearing stories of Neal Degrasse Tyson rapist stories.

What a shame.

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posted December 06, 2018 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
The purpose of the media is to mind control masses. The media is owned by big corporations.

No one is hearing stories of Neal Degrasse Tyson rapist stories.

What a shame.


Neil deGrasse Tyson Accused of Sexual Assault, Misconduct
JOHN NOLTE
1 Dec 2018

Three women have come forward to accuse astrophysicist and Cosmos host Neil deGrasse Tyson of sexual misconduct, including rape.

Tchiya Amet told David Gee at Patheos that Tyson drugged and raped her in 1984. “Until the alleged incident,” Patheos reports, she “says she was on track to becoming the world’s first black female astronaut. But afterward, she dropped out of the program, suffered from PTSD, and sought therapy repeatedly.”

“She told me she was at his apartment when he offered her water, and the next thing she remembered was waking up to an assault.” http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/01/neil-degrasse-tyson-accused-sexual-assault-misconduct/
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/003740-10.html


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posted December 06, 2018 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
FYI: President Trump's is at 46%.

So?

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posted December 06, 2018 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
The purpose of the media is to mind control masses. The media is owned by big corporations.

No one is hearing stories of Neal Degrasse Tyson rapist stories.

What a shame.


Why don't you care about Trump being a rapist?

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posted December 06, 2018 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
That's what you get with a carbon tax on gas.

The serfs are revolting from Macron's Globalist French Last New World Order!

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posted December 06, 2018 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one is hearing? It's all over the place. I find this interesting from breitbart's piece

Allers came forward, she said, to support Amet. “I think that he is someone that could use his position of fame and power in a way to try and take advantage,” she said.

Whether or not the allegations are true, Allers herself admits there was actually nothing going on, she just felt creeped out.

But in 1984 Tyson had no fame and power to snow women with. He was no longer at UT and no corroborating evidence even puts him living in Austin at that time.

Im sure however he merits a place in the Accused Dems thread, tho so far there is no case against him.

As in all such cases, even Brett Kavanaugh's, investigation should be a priority, not the accusation alone.

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posted December 06, 2018 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
The serfs are revolting from Macron's Globalist French Last New World Order!

U misunderstood what is happening

Globalist ?
French last new world order ?

Your wishes maybe, not the motivation for the french people

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posted December 06, 2018 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Im sure however he merits a place in the Accused Dems thread, tho so far there is no case against him."

There's more of a case against Tyson than there is against Kavanaugh's debunked allegations.

"As in all such cases, even Brett Kavanaugh's, investigation should be a priority, not the accusation alone."

Investigation completed by the FBI, nothing more to investigate.

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posted December 06, 2018 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pire:
U misunderstood what is happening

Globalist ?
French last new world order ?

Your wishes maybe, not the motivation for the french people


Macron is a New World Order Globalist loon with an approval rating of only 23%. He definitely doesn't put French citizens FIRST, thus the revolt.

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posted December 06, 2018 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Im sure however he merits a place in the Accused Dems thread, tho so far there is no case against him."

There's more of a case against Tyson than there is against Kavanaugh's debunked allegations.

"As in all such cases, even Brett Kavanaugh's, investigation should be a priority, not the accusation alone."

Investigation completed by the FBI, nothing more to investigate.


Randall was urging us to believe ALL women recently. So, that would include Ford. Get with the program, jwhop.

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posted December 06, 2018 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Randall was urging us to believe ALL women recently. So, that would include Ford. Get with the program, jwhop.

I actually wasn't. Women do lie. I was speaking sarcastically in reference to the sleaze ball lawyer.

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posted December 06, 2018 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Randall was urging us to believe ALL women recently. So, that would include Ford. Get with the program, jwhop."


I read what Randall had to say teasel and I agree with Randall.

"Sleezy porn lawyer, Avinatti, was recently arrested for assault. If you recall, he was against the presumption of innocence for Kavanaugh. But now he wants it! Yes, believe all women--just not the one that accuses you of assault. Typical Democrat hypocrisy."

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posted December 06, 2018 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looks like they're ready to drag those guillotines out of their storage warehouse!

That's what happened the last time their French elitists got too uppity.

SACRE BRUTES Beleaguered Emmanuel Macron predicts ‘major violence’ across France this weekend as approval rating crashes to record low of 18 per cent

Protesters across France are set to take to the streets again on Saturday despite the government caving in over the controversial fuel price hike
Peter Allen in Paris
6th December 2018, 1:42 pm

http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7915541/emmanuel-macron-predicts-violence-france-weekend-approval-rating/

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posted December 07, 2018 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Macron is a New World Order Globalist loon with an approval rating of only 23%. He definitely doesn't put French citizens [b]FIRST, thus the revolt.[/B]

Hey thank you Rachel Maddow for your analysis.

But your twisting, propaganda, is not correct and I know what i am talking about.

Your agenda to portray it as a nationalist vs globalist issue is obvious

But wrong.

I could enlighten you, but since you seem to have understood what is going on, I ll let you wallow in your wisdom

For everyone else, i would merely say that it is a grassroot movement on the style of the mee too movement, spontaneous and through social media, whose aim was first to complain about another tax on gazole in the name of ecology, that would have affected the masses, while an tax for the super rich called ISF Impot Sur la Fortune was suppressed.
The movement then evolved into a protest against an elite that is disconnected from the population, and NO POLITICIAN has been able to capitalize on it, not even lepen, with her nationalist rethoric that pleases jwhop ( forgetting or not knowing that her dad who created the party made many antisemit comments and whose base is historically pro nazi people)
All the politicians have tried to recuperate the movement with no avail, which is impressive considering it is a mass movement and it would have been expected. But the people are asking for a beter consideration by the elite, and that include ALL POLITICIANS

THEREFORE THE SPIN THAT IT IS A NATIONALIST VS GLOBALIST ISSUE IS IN THE EYES OF RACHEL JWHOP, PROPAGANDIST, WHO, LIKE THE MSM HE CONTIUALLY DEMOUNCE, SPIN THE REALITY FOR HIS OWN AGENDA

THE MOVEMENT IS A RECONNECTING OF ORDINARY PEOPLE ON THE STREET CORNERS EVERYDAYS AND EVERY NIGHTS, SUPPORTED BY 80 % OF THE POPULATION, DISGUSTED BY A PRESIDENT THAT PILOT HIS COUNTRY FROM ABOVE WITH NO UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR REALITY.

It degenerate every saturdays in paris, at least the last three, and this one is expected the worst since the government is trying to divise it and the hardened of the protestors are not backing down, while the VAST majority of oridinary men AND WOMEN still support it big time.something major about true democracy is hapeening, and it is not about nationalist vs globalist.

Quite the contrary, I would hargue that this movement has much to do with what we call here l'esprit du 11 Janvier, in reference to the french people who gathered en masse 4 days after the killings at Charlie Hebdo regardless of their political, racial or religious background

but who knows, maybe I missed what is going on and rachel jwhop knows better.

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posted December 07, 2018 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Macron did not have more than 20% approval when he got elected.

He has improved to 23%.

If he handles this riot crisis properly by reducing taxes plus thoroughly thrashing the White Supremacists who were committing Arson, he might sneak up to 30% approval. He should be able to win again if there is no recession in EU.

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posted December 07, 2018 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry IQ but white nationalists are not to be blamed more than :
Antifa
Suburbian french arabs
Random yellow vest
White supremacists

They do exist, all of them, and all participated to the riots

Actually I should have added the government in the list of groups being concerned and partly redponsible.

All of them have their reason for it to escalate and degenerate.

That has nothing to do however with the motivation for MILLIONS (actually 80% of the population !!!) to organize themselves spontaneously, and sustainly for nearly a month, with gathering on street corners, peacefully slowing the traffic which drivers accepts willingly cause they widely support those who demonstrate.

Every saturday now, well the last three and tomorrow is expected terrible, yellow vest have let the hardened one show some "determination", including white nationalist and antifa who, unexpectedly joined their forces for the first time ever last saturday according to news who report police services.

Macron has no other way than give in. He will probably change his prime minister soon, but he must understand what is going on and dramatically acknowledge the difficult living conditions of ordinary people who cannot stabd anymore the dichotomy existing between an elite and the people. Period. Nothing else will do.

People are energised by the sight of such a democratic movement being able to last, while remaining popular despite the attempts of the ruling class (media included) to portray them as white nationalist, then as rioter who took over the random people.

Yet people are not bluffed and still determined. Mainly women who know the cost of living, single parents, retired people who got a new tax recently.. all are on the streets and if not, their yellow vest on the dashbord of their car.
And being a truck driver, I can tell you It is almost every car that has one, rare are the cars that don not have a yellow vest on the dashboard.
Being an unconventional, i do not have one, but I am totally with them, just don't like the sheep mentality.

Anyway, this popular "uprising" is too deep for politcal manouvering. People are awakening to their collective power. That needs to be taken into accont by our pretensious arrogant ex banker of president who lately replied to a retired woman complaining to him that she lived with 500€ a months that in France we should not complain of our living conditions.

Coming from what he represents, it cannot pass, and the good news is that it creates havoc. But for whom ? That is the true question now...

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posted December 07, 2018 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good post, thanks for giving us the actuality from the ground Pire. Hoping for a peaceful resolution there. How I wish France, Germany, Italy etc prosper a lot more and convince Putin to behave.

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