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jwhop
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posted January 20, 2019 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Trump is a few days away from implementing an available plan...if he wants to do so.

January 19, 2019
Trump Puts Schumer and Pelosi in a Brilliant Vise Grip
Jim Davis

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/01/trump_puts_schumer_and_pelosi_in_a_brilliant_vise_grip.html


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ballerina
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posted January 20, 2019 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi jwhop!

It seems to me, that Nancy
thinks she's president, and
in charge. She is not.

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jwhop
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posted January 20, 2019 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, Nancy Pee-Lousy isn't in charge if Trump can ground her...and he did.

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Catalina
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posted January 21, 2019 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you say that, ballerina?

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ballerina
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posted January 21, 2019 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NANCY PELOSI. Lexi

I LOSE A CON CASE
SO, I LEAP IN LIES

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Catalina
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posted January 21, 2019 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The majority of illegals are not border crossers but overstayed visitor visas, ie they came here legally and are not Hispanic at all.

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jwhop
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posted January 21, 2019 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ballerina:
NANCY PELOSI. Lexi

I LOSE A CON CASE
SO, I LEAP IN LIES



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ballerina
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posted January 21, 2019 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catalina...

She's not compromising,
her and Schumer are saying
no, before they even hear
a proposal...

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Catalina
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posted January 21, 2019 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are they? I don't suppose they know anything we don't? And how are they any different than McConnell and Ryan, refusing to consider numerous judicial appointments and voting to repeal Obamacare 50 times in a row?

You realize the money already appropriated for the wall has not been put to use? That the amount keeps going up (the famous inch/ mile cliche)?

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Catalina
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posted January 21, 2019 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I lose a con case has too many c's...in fact both phrases require extra letters..

Im not a big pelosi fan. I see politicians doing what they do. I hear the president claiming the success of walls that don't exist, and, if his fans here are to be believed, telling whoppers multiple times a day just to gaslight his detractors.

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posted January 21, 2019 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Catalina,

I understand what you're
saying...

They see it has giving in..
so what, give him the wall,
and get people back to work!

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ballerina
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posted January 21, 2019 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do people really think
President Trump will back
down? He never will!
He's The President!!!

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posted January 21, 2019 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexi...it's per word!

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Catalina
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posted January 23, 2019 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Giving them the wall is not going to put those people back to work. It seems starving people till they quit is more like it. Hence the remarks about all the money saved.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/senior-trump-official-anonymous-daily-caller-op-ed-shutdown-federal-workers?

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posted January 23, 2019 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
25% of the federal government is shut down...that means the "NON ESSENTIAL" parts of government.

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ballerina
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posted January 23, 2019 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop,

What do you think of the FBI
president?

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jwhop
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posted January 23, 2019 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Trump's shutdown trap?
Thomas Lifson
American Thinker
Tue, 15 Jan 2019

Has President Trump suckered Democrats and the Deep State into a trap that will enable a radical downsizing of the federal bureaucracy? In only five more days of the already "longest government shutdown in history" (25 days and counting, as of today), a heretofore obscure threshold will be reached, enabling permanent layoffs of bureaucrats furloughed 30 days or more.

Don't believe me that federal bureaucrats can be laid off? Well, in bureaucratese, a layoff is called a RIF - a Reduction in Force - and of course, it comes with a slew of civil service protections. But, if the guidelines are followed, bureaucrats can be laid off - as in no more job. It is all explained by Michael Roberts here (updated after the beginning of the partial shutdown):

A reduction in force is a thoughtful and systematic elimination of positions. For all practical purposes, a government RIF is the same thing as a layoff. ...

Organizations must stick to predetermined criteria when sorting out what happens to each employee. They must communicate with employees how and why decisions are made. ...

In deciding who stays and who goes, federal agencies must take four factors into account:
1. Tenure
2. Veteran status
3. Total federal civilian and military service
4. Performance

Agencies cannot use RIF procedures to fire bad employees.
A lot of procedures must be followed, and merit ("performance") is the last consideration, but based on the criteria above, employees already furloughed can be laid off ("RIFed") once they have been furloughed for 30 days or 22 work days:
When agencies furlough employees for more than 30 calendar days or 22 discontinuous work days, they must use RIF procedures.

An employee can be terminated or moved into an available position[.]

This seems to be what was referenced in this remarkable essay written by an "unidentified senior Trump official" published in the Daily Caller, which vouches for the authenticity of the author and explains that it is protecting him from adverse career consequences should the name become known. I strongly recommend reading the whole thing.

The purported senior official makes the case that devotion to "process" eats up most of the time of federal bureaucrats and is also used by enemies of President Trump's initiatives to stymie the legitimate orders issued by his senior officials:

On an average day, roughly 15 percent of the employees around me are exceptional patriots serving their country. I wish I could give competitive salaries to them and no one else. But 80 percent feel no pressure to produce results. If they don't feel like doing what they are told, they don't........

http://www.sott.net/article/405275-President-Trumps-shutdown-trap

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posted January 23, 2019 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:
The majority of illegals are not border crossers but overstayed visitor visas, ie they came here legally and are not Hispanic at all.


lol typical

I'm sure Jwhop has those numbers at his limber little fingertips so I'll just throw that old quality/quantity thing on the table.

https://amp.news.com.au/world/south-america/inside-mexicos-drug-gangs-who-force-members-to-eat-the-hearts-of-their-victims/news-story/f1b2e210bb179c8456907534a2991d30?__twitter_imp ression=true

Something something aztec spiritual impulse Mexican mystery schools something something

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ballerina
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posted January 23, 2019 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shura, you are funny!
I needed to laugh

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pire
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posted January 26, 2019 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop and his TRUMPed up reality

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iQ
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posted January 26, 2019 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump can never cave in, Trump never loses.
Shutdown to continue indefinitely, trapping Pelosi, Schumer, Obama etc etc.

Soon, Federal Bureaucracy will be re-shaped in Putin's image i.e 99% American Government employees sacked.

BTW, Anybody knows when I can see the great SOTU speech?
I heard Roger Stone will be giving a special presentation. That will do wonders for the TV ratings and Trump should win 2020 re-election comfortably with Roger Stone managing the re-election campaign from his prison cell.

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jwhop
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posted January 26, 2019 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pire:
Jwhop and his TRUMPed up reality

Judging by the incoherence of your recent posts, Pyre is burning out.

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jwhop
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posted January 26, 2019 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Soon, Federal Bureaucracy will be re-shaped in Putin's image i.e 99% American Government employees sacked."

More hyperbolic bullshiite.

Only the lazy, shiftless, do nothings, know nothings would be RIFed.

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posted January 26, 2019 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had some engaging discussions on Twitter with Dems. I suspect some were furloughed staff.
The grapevine is that if Trump dared to shut down the government again, TWA staff and ATCs would call in sick en masse.

In 48 hours, the government will be up and running, and in 24 hours after that, there would be a lot of members of Federalist Society and Citizens United actually calling in sick. And Mercer won't want to be seen for a while.

Federal Employees seem to know who the root cause of the problems are.

Its not Trump. Trump is just the Symptom.

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jwhop
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posted January 26, 2019 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The grapevine is that if Trump dared to shut down the government again, TWA staff and ATCs would call in sick en masse."

Those people should remember what happened to the Air Traffic Controllers when Reagan busted their chops.

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