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Topic: No! No! No! No Voter Fraud in US
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jwhop
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posted January 26, 2019 02:56 PM
  
95K Noncitizens Registered to Vote in Texas, Say State Officials
MERRILL HOPE
25 Jan 2019The Office of the Texas Secretary of State (SOS) has discovered troubling figures — roughly 95,000 individuals identified as non-U.S. citizens by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) are registered to vote and, 58,000 of those, 61 percent, voted at least once, says Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton......
http://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/01/25/95k-noncitizens-registered-to-vote-in-texas-say-state-officials/ IP: Logged |
Catalina
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posted January 27, 2019 12:32 AM
No no no.. they didn't say that at all. Sam Taylor, a spokesman for the secretary of state, said the announcement on Friday did not mean that the authorities had discovered 95,000 registered voters who it knew for a fact were noncitizens. Instead, the office was advising local officials to ask these voters via mail to provide proof of their citizenship. Mr. Taylor noted that it is a felony for noncitizens to vote in Texas, and a misdemeanor for them to register.
http://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/us/noncitizens-voting-texas.html These people identified at some time (since 1996) as non citizens. Before or after registering to vote? Suddenly it is a huge problem being pushed as absolute fact before fact finding has proceeded. Great find! Do tell us when breitbart get some corroborating evidence! IP: Logged |
jwhop
Knowflake Posts: 12535
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posted January 27, 2019 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
No no no.. they didn't say that at all. [b]Sam Taylor, a spokesman for the secretary of state, said the announcement on Friday did not mean that the authorities had discovered 95,000 registered voters who it knew for a fact were noncitizens. Instead, the office was advising local officials to ask these voters via mail to provide proof of their citizenship. Mr. Taylor noted that it is a felony for noncitizens to vote in Texas, and a misdemeanor for them to register. These people identified at some time (since 1996) as non citizens. Before or after registering to vote? Suddenly it is a huge problem being pushed as absolute fact before fact finding has proceeded. Great find! Do tell us when they get some corroborating evidence! [/B]
Who is Sam Taylor and why isn't that statement found in the story I linked to. Where is your link to the story you try to quote? The headline is borne out by the facts related in the article. In addition, 61% of those 95,000 non-citizens voted in elections...according to an investigation already done by Texas officials. Further, the numbers are probably much higher. Harris County Texas is being sued because they refuse to turn over their roll of registered voters to Texas investigators. "The organization issued a complaint in October 2018 to the State of Texas about the local Democratic Party allegedly sending pre-filled voter registration applications to noncitizens in the Rio Grande Valley, encouraging them to vote in the upcoming midterm elections. The mailers purportedly arrived with the U.S. citizenship box pre-checked. The SOS referred the matter to the AG’s office. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted January 27, 2019 06:51 PM
Try to quote? Lol, haven't you put in electrics yet? Gaslight is so distorting😉 It says who sam taylor is, right next to his name, and i would hazard a guess that the dull fact that this is an unfinished investigation, not a completed one, might not fit the outrage intended by breitbart? The list of 95000, potentially still non citizens, registered to vote, is being investigated to see if they are in fact not eligible. Their "identification at some point as non citizens" goes back 20 years... fings have a way of changing! Sorry..thought i put the link in. It includes the run down on 3 (three) people convicted for voting offenses, only one is identified by voting preference,
just coincidentally Republican..
http://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/us/noncitizens-voting-texas.html
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jwhop
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posted January 27, 2019 09:55 PM
I find no reference whatsoever to Sam Taylor in the article I posted. Nor are there any paragraphs stating:Sam Taylor, a spokesman for the secretary of state, said the announcement on Friday did not mean that the authorities had discovered 95,000 registered voters who it knew for a fact were noncitizens. Instead, the office was advising local officials to ask these voters via mail to provide proof of their citizenship. Mr. Taylor noted that it is a felony for noncitizens to vote in Texas, and a misdemeanor for them to register. Those paragraphs appear nowhere in the article I posted. So, put a cork in your "gaslighting" bullshiite.
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Catalina
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posted January 27, 2019 10:48 PM
I wasnt quoting your article. If that wasn't plain from my first post it should have been from the second. Apparently we misunderstood each other. Sorry bout that!Breitbart left out a lot of details that would have toned down the outrage of their headline. And conflated two different situations. [Sam Taylor, a spokesperson for the SoS,] made it quite clear that those 95k people may or may not be eligible/ ineligible to vote and the article pointed out that they are people who at some point in the last 20 years have identified themselves as non citizens. They may have become citizens, may have left the state, may have voted illegally. At this point they are not confirmed as having done anything wrong, that is what is being followed up in the investigation. As to Harris County, since they haven't turned over the rolls i guess that is another list altogether. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted January 28, 2019 12:31 AM
Yeah, I see you went back and inserted a link...AFTER THE FACT AND AFTER ACCUSING ME OF GASLIGHTINGHello intellectual dishonesty! IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted January 28, 2019 10:19 AM
Actually i put it in there because you made it clear I had contributed to your misunderstanding when i initially forgot it. Not everything is about winning points in the Big Debate/War of Life.
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jwhop
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posted January 28, 2019 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Actually i put it in there because you made it clear I had contributed to your misunderstanding when i initially forgot it. Not everything is about winning points in the Big Debate/War of Life.
I did not "misunderstand". You flat out failed to provide a link to the source of Sam Taylor's comment....and you attempted to show that Sam Taylor disagreed with the findings of the Texas investigators...and the Texas Attorney General. By failing to provide a link to the source of your rebuttal statement, you tried to make it appear those statements appeared in the article I posted and I had just missed finding it there. Your subterfuge didn't work. Here's the rest of what Sam Taylor had to say about the 95,000 non-Americans on Texas voter rolls. "Mr. Taylor said the authorities believed that the method they had used to identify these potentially problematic voter registrations had left “very little, if any” room for error. He said the investigation used a range of identifiers — including first and last names, birth dates and full or partial Social Security numbers — to cross-reference voter rolls and public safety records. For example, he said, if someone had used a green card to apply for a driver’s license, that would remain on file with the Department of Public Safety, which is responsible for law enforcement and vehicle registration. “We can’t see a situation in which this would produce a false positive,” he said. “These are people whose last and most recent visits to D.P.S. showed them to be noncitizens through documentation that they submitted and which D.P.S. has kept on file.”
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Catalina
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posted January 28, 2019 10:47 AM
Always out with the fists - and self righteousness. While you continue to see the world as a battleground i guess that's your only option. Battle on, Pyrrhus😘Meanwhile.. you failed to include a link🙃 none of what you added contradicts what he also said in the article i posted.. "last or most recent" could be any time in the records.
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jwhop
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posted January 28, 2019 12:44 PM
From the source you finally posted...after the fact."Mr. Taylor said the authorities believed that the method they had used to identify these potentially problematic voter registrations had left “very little, if any” room for error. He said the investigation used a range of identifiers — including first and last names, birth dates and full or partial Social Security numbers — to cross-reference voter rolls and public safety records. For example, he said, if someone had used a green card to apply for a driver’s license, that would remain on file with the Department of Public Safety, which is responsible for law enforcement and vehicle registration. “We can’t see a situation in which this would produce a false positive,” he said. “These are people whose last and most recent visits to D.P.S. showed them to be noncitizens through documentation that they submitted and which D.P.S. has kept on file.”
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jwhop
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posted January 28, 2019 03:18 PM
How embarrassing for leftist lunatic demorats!   IP: Logged |
Catalina
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posted January 28, 2019 04:56 PM
Why embarrassing for Dems? Who is in charge of the elections in texas? Who is mostly in charge of texas? IF they are phony voters, especially as at least some of them voted Republican, it was Repub incompetence that let them slip thru. Or was it intentional?However the fact remains that tho the people are on record as foreign and registered to vote, it remains to be established that they are CURRENTLY ineligible. The files referenced go back 20 years. Naturalization happens. Now, because some dems got into power, the SoS and AG are sorting thru the list. Even immigrants and suspected fraudulent voters are innocent till proven guilty. And you are still being led by the nose. Enjoy your so called winning. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted January 28, 2019 05:19 PM
Surely, you must know the reference to , embarrassing was to the lying lunatic leftists who were all for the wall..before they were against it.So, were they lying then...for political reasons or are they lying now...for political reasons? In any event, they're embarrassing , and stinking up America. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted January 28, 2019 08:47 PM
I said nothing about contradicting the investigators. I said breitbart slashed the info to the bare minimum that would maximize the outrage and confuse their readers into thinking this was all about the last elections. The 95k list includes years worth of records, some most certainly out of date, and they don't know yet when or which of these people ever actually voted. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted February 23, 2019 07:58 PM
In January, Texas Secretary of State David Whitley announced that there were as many as 98,000 possible non-citizens listed on the state’s voter logs and that as many as 58,000 voted illegally during the elections.But now Whitley is walking back those statements and apologized for questioning the voter’s citizenship before fully vetting them. In a letter to lawmakers last week, Whitley said that “more time should have been devoted” to vetting the names.
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-voter-fraud-conspiracy-1341315 IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted February 23, 2019 09:10 PM
Big deal.No one is saying there were not large numbers of illegal votes cast in Texas, only that the list should have been better vetted in the beginning. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 24, 2019 07:22 PM
I posted something about voter fraud last week. NC09. You totally ignored it.IP: Logged |
ballerina
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posted February 24, 2019 07:37 PM
teasel  What's wrong?
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ballerina
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posted February 24, 2019 07:40 PM
I'm gonna make like
Groot, and branch out
and protect every One..No worries! ------------------
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teasel
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posted February 24, 2019 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by ballerina:
teasel What's wrong?
Nothing. I'm not feeling well, and I only started posting again, because I saw friends getting picked on recently.
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jwhop
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posted February 24, 2019 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
I posted something about voter fraud last week. NC09. You totally ignored it.
Since you're complaining about North Carolina 09, you might be interested in checking out vote harvesting in California. IP: Logged |
ballerina
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posted February 24, 2019 11:35 PM
teasel Giving you a big healing
hug of LOVE ------------------
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teasel
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posted February 26, 2019 01:21 PM
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ballerina
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posted February 26, 2019 01:32 PM
I guess it didn't work!?------------------
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