posted October 08, 2019 02:23 AM            

Now Turkey can wipe them out, superb Gratitude from President Trump for their sacrifice in terminating ISIS. Even Trump butt kissers have temporarily freed their lips to speak out against this.

If the Kurds are smart, they must sign a pact with Assad and join the Syrian-Iranian-Iraqi-Lebanon Team. They are not getting a Kurdistan in this generation.

Let Turkey deal with ISIS on the North East border.

posted October 08, 2019 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage: But they have been our allies for decades[/B]

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posted October 08, 2019 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The left criticized President Trump a few months ago for not keeping his campaign promise and staying in Syria, and now the same people are criticizing President Trump for keeping his word. President Trump did campaign on that promise, and despite the public outrage on the Lame Street Media, millions of his base are happy about this decision. It was a tough choice, and there are pros and cons on both sides, but you can bet President Trump weighed this decision heavily. It was not made impulsively as claimed by the left.

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You are an intelligent man whose opinion I value. It is unfortunate that you insist on painting everyone and anyone who disagree with Trump on anything as being from the left. How about those who are NOT on the left, who were not criticizing him for not keeping promises, and who think a president should be more beholden to our national interest than to campaign promises? Some of us happen to think a president should be a visionary and pragmatic leader, not a tool of the masses. Is this latest move really in our best national interests?

Even the Jerusalem post expressed concerns with the decision. Is that a leftist paper?

posted October 08, 2019 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I wasn't implying that you in particular are on the left. I was speaking in general when I mentioned the left (they know who they are). And I personally think that both sides hold merit, but President Trump is privy to information that we aren't. I support staying in Syria if it furthers our cause, but I also think America has grown tired and fed up with these endless wars. It's not an easy decision, and I'm glad I don't have to make it.

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I agree that Americans have gotten tired of being involved in all those endless wars. But the US is the number 1 world military superpower, with Russia and China nipping at its heel, it just cannot afford to turn a blind eye as a matter of policy when it comes its allies and enemies.

posted October 09, 2019 02:03 PM            

A gold star for shura!!!

posted October 09, 2019 09:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I am not romanticizing the Kurds. But they have been our allies for decades. Now they are the laughing stock of the middle east. What message is this move sending to our allies there or any potential ally there? That the US will use you and drop you at its convenience?

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posted October 09, 2019 10:05 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
As long as Trump is doing Putin's bidding, or trying to keep a hotel in a certain country: yes.

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Putin's Poodle.

Tell Vlad I'll have more flexibility to sell out American interests after the 2012 election.
~Barack Hussein Obama~

Tell Vlad I'll sign off on selling him 20% of US Uranium production but he'll have to pay off Kommander Korruption and Hillary The Corrupt with a $145 Million bribe.

Barack Hussein Obama pulled missile defense systems out of Poland and the Czech Republic because Putin told him to do so.

Barack Hussein Obama stood idly by when Putin invaded Ukraine because Putin told him to.

posted October 09, 2019 10:34 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Read all of her tweets in this thread:
http://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1182053870744276993

Of course rump supporters continue to make excuses for the gaslighter-in-chief.

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What bullshiite this is. Suddenly teasel believes Fox and Green Berets. lol

posted October 09, 2019 10:59 PM            

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I am trying to understand why we would be distraught over "abandoning the Kurds" and I am coming up with nothing other than we know little about the Kurds and are simply parroting msm slogans.

Whether this recall of our troops is a strategically sound decision is a most reasonable conversation. I just dont understand the maudlin "but the Kurds!" wah wah thing.

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I confess, I never quite know how to read your posts, so I usually try to ignore them, as I find they usually bring nothing to the conversation other than the need to be different for the sake of being different.

However, I am quite willing to go past my bias regarding your thought process, so I will bite.

The "we" you are talking about, the "we" that knows little about the Kurds and is just parroting msm, do not be so quick to include me or others in that pronoun. Maybe you are speaking for you and your friends, and that is quite fine. Some of us have been following the Kurds' story for decades.

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Originally posted by shura:
Regarding the Jerusalem Post ... it is right of center within the Israeli political construct. To the point, it is pro military and pro Israel and understandably will judge this pullout by its potential effect on Israel. It should be obvious that the Israelis would much prefer we stay and sacrifice more American lives for their sake. Who can blame them?

So the question is not why are we abandoning the Kurds. That's feel good/guilt inducing pr hiding the real question our media is wringing its hands over. Namely, why is Trump, the devoted, outspoken supporter of Israeli interests, suddenly abandoning Israel?

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I thought it was plain obvious that my using the Jerusalem post as an example was intent to address Randall's blanket characterization of those who had misgiving about the decision as leftists. Randall has since clarified his position. I could have used a number of other non Israelite non leftist papers to make my point. But not surprisingly, you seized on that example and from it, Eureka! Light Bulb moment! You suddenly discovered the "real" question that should be asked. lol See, that is why I usually try to ignore your posts.

posted October 09, 2019 11:41 PM            

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I confess, I never quite know how to read your posts, so I usually try to ignore them, as I find they usually bring nothing to the conversation other than the need to be different for the sake of being different.

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I hold no partisan loyalties. That's the "different" which tends to offend

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However, I am quite willing to go past my bias regarding your thought process, so I will bite.

The "we" you are talking about, the "we" that knows little about the Kurds and is just parroting msm, do not be so quick to include me or others in that pronoun. Maybe you are speaking for you and your friends, and that is quite fine. Some of us have been following the Kurds' story for decades.

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I am speaking of the average consumer here with a polite "we"

Curious that you would follow the Kurd's story for decades. Do you mean to say you have been following the greater middle east story? The Turkish story? Or perhaps there is a personal tie? I ask because it is a rare interest and I wonder what inspired it.

posted October 09, 2019 11:53 PM            

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thought it was plain obvious that my using the Jerusalem post as an example was intent to address Randall's blanket characterization of those who had misgiving about the decision as leftists. Randall has since clarified his position. I could have used a number of other non Israelite non leftist papers to make my point. But not surprisingly, you seized on that example and from it, Eureka! Light Bulb moment! You suddenly discovered the "real" question that should be asked. lol See, that is why I usually try to ignore your posts.

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Yes your reason for sharing the link seemed to me nonessential. I used it for my own purpose.

Belage, you have ignored me with a greater success than you imagine because although I see you registered in 09 I genuinely do not remember you at all. Are you one of those come and go members I might have missed? Is this the first time we have conversed? I am terrible with names and it can require quite a lot to catch my interest. At any rate pleased to finally meet you.

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But back to your question, I find it to be quite a stretch. The Kurds do not = Israel. The Kurds were instrumental in defeating ISIS, which just a couple of years ago, was perhaps the number one nemesis of the US in that part of the world. The US' geopolitical interests have been served well by the Kurds and abandoning them, yes ABANDONING THEM (capitalized for emphasis) sends the message that the US is a fickle partner and ally, one who will dispense of you in a whim. So besides what you characterize as the "mudling But the Kurds wah wah" my question remains, is that the message we (The US) want to send to our allies and more importantly, potential allies?

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That the Kurds do not = Israel is just what I've said, yes.

posted October 10, 2019 12:19 AM            

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The real question revealed.

A gold star for shura!!!

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Now see this here is good snark. Classic. Succinct. Unobtrusive. I appreciate this level of snark. I respect it.

(Shes had world class training)