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juniperb
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posted November 06, 2019 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I say indeed,yes.

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juniperb
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posted November 06, 2019 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, where's rudy??

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posted November 06, 2019 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again and Again and Again, the United States of America keeps proving to the World that it is a phenomenal Democracy.

1. A Deep Scarlet Red State like Kentucky that traditionally votes GOP no matter the candidate, got woke in Jefferson County and destroyed Trump's pet in the Gubernatorial Race. A BLUE Governor for Red Kentucky. When I saw the news I thought I was dreaming, this was bigger than Doug Jones.

2. Thug Hotelier and Trump Donor Sondland got sh*t scared from the Resilient Truth of the Upright Patriots like Morrison, and suddenly recalled the facts, about Trump's "Quid Pro Quo". This will ensure more rogue phone calls of Trump's business deals from the White House see the light in televised Impeachment Hearings.

3. Democrat American Muslim Ghazala Hashmi destroyed Republican Glen Sturtevant in the Virginia State Senate. She joins two more Muslims in a once Conservative State.
Can any other Country boast of giving such opportunities to religious minorities [ok, other than Canada].

So called wise China and Fake Democracy India ramp up Genocide against millions of Uighur and Kashmiri Muslims but America yet again shows the Light.

American Voters are AWESOME.

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jwhop
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posted November 06, 2019 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Again and Again and Again, the United States of America keeps proving to the World that it is a phenomenal Democracy.

Disgusting and pathetic for someone to be commenting on the US Government to not know what our form of government actually is

The United States is not now, nor has it ever been a 'Democracy'.

The founders of the United States despised 'democracy' above all other forms of government.

The form of government for the United States is a REPUBLIC. A REPUBLIC governed by a Constitution. A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

That is what the founders established for the government of the United States and wrote it into the US Constitution, guaranteeing to every state...a REPUBLICAN form of government.

Article 4 - The States. Section 4 - Republican Government. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,..........

"The deliberations of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 were held in strict secrecy. Consequently, anxious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall when the proceedings ended in order to learn what had been produced behind closed doors. The answer was provided immediately. A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, "A republic, if you can keep it."

This exchange was recorded by Constitution signer James McHenry in a diary entry that was later reproduced in the 1906 American Historical Review.

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posted November 06, 2019 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
Again and Again and Again, the United States of America keeps proving to the World that it is a phenomenal Democracy.

1. A Deep Scarlet Red State like Kentucky that traditionally votes GOP no matter the candidate, got woke in Jefferson County and destroyed Trump's pet in the Gubernatorial Race. A BLUE Governor for Red Kentucky. When I saw the news I thought I was dreaming, this was bigger than Doug Jones.

2. Thug Hotelier and Trump Donor Sondland got sh*t scared from the Resilient Truth of the Upright Patriots like Morrison, and suddenly recalled the facts, about Trump's "Quid Pro Quo". This will ensure more rogue phone calls of Trump's business deals from the White House see the light in televised Impeachment Hearings.

3. Democrat American Muslim Ghazala Hashmi destroyed Republican Glen Sturtevant in the Virginia State Senate. She joins two more Muslims in a once Conservative State.
Can any other Country boast of giving such opportunities to religious minorities [ok, other than Canada].

So called wise China and Fake Democracy India ramp up Genocide against millions of Uighur and Kashmiri Muslims but America yet again shows the Light.

American Voters are AWESOME.


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posted November 07, 2019 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mouthy rudy lawyered up

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posted November 07, 2019 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Mouthy rudy lawyered up


Another big fat nothingburger.

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posted November 07, 2019 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually Jwhop your definition of the United States government is not quite accurate.

If you look deeper into the nature of the United States government you'll see a lot of different definitions by various scholars.

Some call it a democratic republic, some call it a constitutional republic, some call it a representative democracy.

It is not a pure democracy, but its not a pure republic either.

It is basically representative though in the sense that elected officials are chosen by and for the people.

The power does in the end lie in the people, so although it is not a pure democracy it is in spirit basically a democracy.

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posted November 07, 2019 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Put a cork in it BR.

I'll take the word of the writers of the Constitution AND the Constitution itself over nutty putty leftist academics who have tried for more than 100 years to turn the US into a democracy.

Latest edition of the nuts..."let's do away with the electoral college".

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posted November 07, 2019 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These arent your traditional demos. These are DSA supported progressives. Demography is destiny. Foreign born Americans do not vote repub or conservative.

Heads up Jwhop. There is no escape now.

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posted November 07, 2019 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:

Latest edition of the nuts..."let's do away with the electoral college".


Funny you should mention the electoral college. A republican in Arizona, wanted to apply the same kind of voting system to our yearly votes, as they do to the presidential election.
http://twitter.com/kelliwardaz/status/1192279093909192704

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posted November 07, 2019 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You dont' actually want me to put a cork in it though, you enjoy my replies and engaging with me.

The electoral college is a fragment of a colonial society with a slave based agricultural economy, it might be time to debate its relevancy.

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posted November 07, 2019 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The electoral college is ingenious. If we were a democracy, the election would be decided by the Republic of Kalifornia. We are absolutely a republic.

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posted November 07, 2019 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Californians may at some point dump tea into the ocean and demand no more taxation without representation

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posted November 07, 2019 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The electoral college is a fragment of a colonial society with a slave based agricultural economy, it might be time to debate its relevancy.

No debate possible or necessary.
The electoral college is written into the Constitution and would require a Constitutional Amendment to change it.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

So save your energy and think up another way to screw up America.

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posted November 07, 2019 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Heads up Jwhop. There is no escape now."

Don't throw in the towel just yet!

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posted November 07, 2019 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"The electoral college is a fragment of a colonial society with a slave based agricultural economy, [b]it might be time to debate its relevancy.

No debate possible or necessary.
The electoral college is written into the Constitution and would require a Constitutional Amendment to change it.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

So save your energy and think up another way to screw up America.[/B]


It's going to happen.

The same people who vote progressive dont give a damn about your Constitution. They're coming for it. Theyre getting the votes to do so. You and your suicidal 'legal' imigration position are giving it to them. They are telling you this. Are you listening?

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posted November 07, 2019 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Heads up Jwhop. There is no escape now."

Don't throw in the towel just yet!



We cant vote our way out of this anymore. That ship sailed.

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posted November 08, 2019 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Watch your Blood Pressure dear JWHop, when I say Democracy I mean US Citizens have a right to vote. Do you want to stop voting dear JWHop? Do you want no more voting rights for Americans?
Obviously USA is not a pure "first past the post" Democracy but the USA allows every Citizen in ever State an EQUAL VOTE.

The Vote of the Gay Muslim American = Vote of the Lesbian Jewish American = Vote of the Black Buddhist American = Vote of the White Christian Evangelist American = Vote of the Satanist American = Vote of the Freemason American = Vote of the Latin Hindu American... I hope you finally get the point. Some day you will understand.

For now, enjoy this: http://twitter.com/AnnieDoily/status/1192861227015458819/photo/1

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posted November 08, 2019 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It's going to happen.

The same people who vote progressive dont give a damn about your Constitution. They're coming for it. Theyre getting the votes to do so. You and your suicidal 'legal' imigration position are giving it to them. They are telling you this. Are you listening?"

It's not happening. The votes will never be there to amend the Constitution to allow presidential election by popular vote.

A 2/3s majority of both houses of Congress or 2/3s of states requesting an amendment are necessary to take up an amendment.


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posted November 08, 2019 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"We cant vote our way out of this anymore. That ship sailed."

But, we can prevent illegal aliens and legal aliens from voting. We can prevent people from voting multiple times in different voting precincts. We can prevent 14, 15, 16, 17 year olds from voting. We can close down sanctuary cities, we can deport illegal aliens, we can shut down immigration until those legal immigrants are assimilated.

Trump is laying the ground work right now by nominating only strict Constitutionalist judges across the federal judiciary...including the out of control 9th Circuit Court.

By the time Trump leaves office in 2025, things will look quite different.

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posted November 08, 2019 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Watch your Blood Pressure dear JWHop, when I say Democracy I mean US Citizens have a right to vote."

Nice, trying to pass your error off as nothing more than a figure of speech won't cut the mustard.

You should amend your comment to say...SOME US Citizens have a right to vote.

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posted November 09, 2019 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JWHop,
All US Citizens have a right to vote, except convicts in Prison. Ergo, the US is a Democracy, which functions politically as a Constitutional Republic with a Federation of 50 States [even State Legislature has Democracy, with first pass the post even!].
Otherwise, Putin can be appointed Monarch of US by President through an Executive Order and voting rights terminated by Executive Order etc. I don't think US Voters will accept that, because.. USA is a Democracy. People Power is the Only Power here.

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posted November 09, 2019 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
JWHop,
All US Citizens have a right to vote, except convicts in Prison. Ergo, the US is a Democracy, which functions politically as a Constitutional Republic with a Federation of 50 States [even State Legislature has Democracy, with first pass the post even!].
Otherwise, Putin can be appointed Monarch of US by President through an Executive Order and voting rights terminated by Executive Order etc. I don't think US Voters will accept that, because.. USA is a Democracy. People Power is the Only Power here.

The United States is a Republic.

I've read the Constitution. Apparently, you haven't.

You're like the foaming at the mouth loon who says..."who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes"?

"I Pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

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posted November 09, 2019 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop. Lets keep this simple. Americans vote along racial lines. My 13 yo son is a racial minority in his age group. There is no judge, no law, no voting booth able to solve this.

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