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jwhop
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posted February 03, 2020 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After overhauling their vote counting operations for the Demokrat Iowa Caucus, they can't get the vote count out to news networks...or even to their own democrat candidates.

They can't tabulate votes for about 175,000 Iowa demokrats but want to control healthcare for 325,000,000 Americans?

No thanks!

Iowa Democrats rush "quality checks" after "inconsistencies"

The conclusive results on the Iowa Democratic caucuses are coming in later than expected tonight, with the state party reporting the need to do "quality checks."

•Des Moines County Democratic Chair Tom Courtney is blaming election technology for the delay and calling a new caucus reporting app "a mess," AP reports.

•"The app is the issue and the hotline is smoked," volunteer Joe Galasso told NBC News.

What's next: The Iowa State Democratic Party said... "The integrity of the results is paramount. We have experienced a delay in the results due to quality checks and the fact that the Iowa Democratic Party is reporting out three data sets for the first time."..........
http://www.axios.com/iowa-caucuses-how-to-watch-6aa273e2-fd22-43ef-8260-012f825f6c9d.html

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posted February 04, 2020 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds about right if you look at how much the Obamacare website cost to build and still wasn’t able to work when the exchanges opened.

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posted February 04, 2020 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it's accounting and exchange done with a TOTAL RELIANCE on Electronic-Internet means of access-- it is going to put US in danger, in more ways than just one.

I think computer-ONLY stored health records, with self-serve enabled BY computers, opens us up to "control" by errors that stubbornly will NOT stay corrected, by *glitches*, and by enemies looking to foul records, and to ransom-collectors (kidnapped records and files that disappear if you don't PAY; Surgeons unable to access files and their instruments during medical procedures-- They are OVERLY RELIANT on outside electronics, rather than talent and human skills? Power goes down, and the human's data records goes *poof*).

Electronic records (mine) are glitched.
Information that has been 'corrected', over time seems to revert BACK to mistakes that were made in the beginning!!
Frankly, I'm scared, as a senior. Hard Files, my data, kept by the physician-themselves, don't exist anymore.

For folks who are newly born DURING this era, where records are ONLY ELECTRONIC??, are both fortunate AND VERY UNFORTUNATE should electronics {in the sky} be damaged. NO hard-data record of Electronic Records?

hmmm. Well. I guess that would put everyone on equal ground again. Mine, as a senior, are gone. Electronic records on the young, can be obliterated??

Some things NEED to go BACK to 'old fashioned' ways.

Paper!!
(topic) 'Emma' toilet paper commercial [0:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7YNrENhstY


Cripples our nation "financially" tooo?
I mean, we get hurricanes, earth-events.

IF the power goes out, the internet doesn't work, with the current generations so HOOKED on electronics, they don't know how to 'handle themselves'?
. . .
We've had storms that knocked out power for extended period of time.
There are community-stores with needed food and supplies.
These were STOPPED from exchanges, "because" cash-registers are controlled by internet and powered electronics.
They didn't know HOW to be a store and do "cash" transactions; didn't know how to keep Old Fashioned accounting records, until they could enter transactions later!!

That's dangerous when it comes to the Pharmacy.
With everything done by internet and electronics, Life-sustaining medications can be refused to be sold--
You can go to the store and see your life-sustaining pills there on the shelf--- but when there's a *GLITCH*, and errors where computer doesn't communicate to computer, the "humans" can shirk overriding for WEEKS???

Event--
The healthcare center I go to were saying to me that "THEIR computer" doesn't lie??? and that the pharmacy which requested the refill on life-sustaining {thyroid hormone} was NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. Pharmacy was diligently trying to get a hold of them, by telephone as well as computer. I-myself walked-in to the healthcare center to ask 'why' this was happening. The business-people at the healthcare center said the pharmacy LIED, because 'the computer' would have indicated it???
~duhhhh? grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
The computer was GLITCHED.
{That actually happened to me last December 2019, into January.}

Electronically-controlled tallies for VOTING in our ELECTIONS
make us VULNERABLE to hacking by Foreign Dictatorships, and those that 'friend' them.

Go ahead and televise it--- but, use HUMANS, and non-electronic VERIFICATIONS.


For human SAFETY AND security-purposes,
"some kinds" of data storage need to go BACK to the privacy of Human Control-- snail-mail, 'paper', and human hands. {creates jobs}

IF we intend to PRESERVE DEMOCRACY in this nation,
Voting has got to SLOW ITSELF DOWN.
Go BACK to Human eyes and hands. HUMANS need to handle, preserve, guard, and regulate everything that is precious to our lives.

Positive--
Having the ability to 'see' elections and speeches happen in real-time all over the globe, and for candidates to be 'present' by electronic screens and means, is really exciting. Nice to have 'instant' gratification on everything?

"Electronic Convenience" and immediate-gratifications ARE (this civilization's) new Achilles' Heel-- we are sooooo incredibly vulnerable when we give our Power over to robots-- and unknowingly, to those that control electronics with internet.


S L O W ……. D O W N.
Time to think of "HUMAN" BEINGS
as being 'Best' and 'First'.

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jwhop
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posted February 04, 2020 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iowa democrats in charge of the Caucus have the paper trail of voting results. They have the vote tallies from each Caucus across the state of Iowa.

As of Noon..the next day, today 2/4/20, they still haven't released the results.

Did Bernie The Commie win big and Joe 'Plugs' Biden fail to qualify for any delegates? Is that the reason vote totals haven't been released?

We know the DNC and other democrat bigwigs are trying to sink Bernie's boat. And we know why!

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posted February 04, 2020 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mirage is right, and I can't believe they were depending on an app, for this.

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posted February 05, 2020 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said mirage. Immensely important topic with broad implications.

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posted February 05, 2020 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Still no final vote count or final results from the democrat Iowa Caucus.

Get with the program demokrats. It's only 170,000 votes to count. 2 half bright 10 year olds would have had the totals yesterday.

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posted February 06, 2020 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

And now, the real story...according to demokrats.

Trump did it.


Nolte: Democrats Blame Trump Supporters for Iowa Debacle
John Nolte
6 Feb 2020

Democrats are now blaming Trump supporters for the ongoing, slow-motion trainwreck that was the Iowa Caucus.

Hey, why the hell not…?

President Trump and/or his supporters have already been blamed for mass shootings, for the shooting down of a passenger plane, for a Hillary Clinton supporter threatening a mosque, for a grocery store spat between two Democrats, for immigration cages built by Barack Obama, for suicides, for Jussie Smollett’s hoax, and for conjuring up a hurricane… So it was only a matter of time before Democrats blamed MAGA World for this Iowa debacle.

First, a little context…

The Iowa Caucus took place on Monday.

Today is Thursday.

Thanks to the dismally low turnout, there are only about 172,000 votes to count.

There are 170 Democrat precinct captains in Iowa.

In a fit of generosity, let’s assume the precinct captains have no staff whatsoever.

That’s 170 people responsible for counting 172,000 votes; which divvies up to around 1000 votes per staffer, and yet…

Democrats still haven’t finished counting all the votes.

As of this writing, only 96 percent of the vote has been counted.

But, yeah, let’s blame Trump supporters:

Supporters of President Donald Trump flooded a hotline used by Iowa precinct chairs to report Democratic caucus results after the telephone number was posted online, worsening delays in the statewide tally, a top state Democrat told party leaders on a conference call Wednesday night.

According to two participants on the call, Ken Sagar, a state Democratic central committee member, was among those answering the hotline on caucus night and said people called in and expressed support for Trump. The phone number became public after people posted photos of caucus paperwork that included the hotline number, one of the people on the call said.

The phone call Wednesday night between the Iowa Democratic Party staff and state central committee, the party’s elected governing body, came as the party was still counting results.

So not only did the very same people who want total control of our health care completely botch the launch of the app that was supposed to make phoning in vote results unnecessary, and not only have the very same people who want total control of our health care still failed to count a measly 172,000 votes over three-plus days, but the very same people who want to control our health care are so stupid they published the phone number of their hotline on Twitter.

Oh, and let’s not forget the very same people who want total control of our health care are so childish and unable to take personal responsibility, they’re willing to insult the intelligence of anyone with an IQ over room temperature by blaming Trump supporters.

Sure, I can see how some crank calls could slow things up … for a bit.

If you really want to stretch, not that anyone is even alleging this, I can imagine a coordinated campaign of crank calls bringing things to a standstill for — again, to be generous — maybe a day.

But it’s THURSDAY, you yahoos!

It’s freakin’ THURSDAY, and you idiots still haven’t completed counting the vote.

And the idea that any amount of crank could slow down the reporting process for the 20 minutes it would take Normal People to figure out a workaround via — you know, email, perhaps? How about the precinct captain’s cell phone? — is ludicrous.

Bottom line….

Had the precinct captains tabulated the votes and dropped the results in the snail mail, this all would have been done yesterday.

You’d have to be insane to want people this incompetent and dishonest to hold any power of you or your health care.

http://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/02/06/nolte-democrats-blame-trump-supporters-for-iowa-debacle/

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posted February 07, 2020 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Democrats blaming this debacle on Trump is as self serving and stupid as Republicans blaming it on incompetance.

Its corruption

Consider what the DNC did to Bernie in 2016. Consider the app, its funders and it history. Consider Buttigieg and his military background. Clearly the votes have been tampered with. No surprise there. I am surprised by how blatant that tampering was. I guess some people assume Americans are so stupid and biased they will blame it on Trump (monkey screech) or simple incompetance (hur hur) so theyll get away with it. Or maybe they're just having a laugh. Cant blame 'em.

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posted February 07, 2020 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Mirage 100%, voting needs to be 100% analog, NO digital allowed. Even with analog theres vulnerabilities to tampering.

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posted February 15, 2020 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It took a week to count 147,000 ballots. This doesn’t bode well for them.

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posted February 16, 2020 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
It took a week to count 147,000 ballots. This doesn’t bode well for them.

Can you imagine these democrat clowns trying to run the $21+Trillion US economy...or healthcare for 330,000,000 Americans?

A scary prospect.

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juniperb
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posted February 16, 2020 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blue, remember the hanging chads?

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posted February 16, 2020 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In MI, many absentee primary votes are being returned to sender.

No reason why yet....

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posted February 18, 2020 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
State Blames Post Office Error for Returned Absentee Ballots
February 15, 2020
Chloe Kiple

The state of Michigan says some absentee ballots are accidentally being returned to sender.

Voters have been discovering the unexpected surprise in their mailbox.

The Department of State believes a technology error at the United States Postal Service could be to blame.

If you do get your ballot back, try mailing it again, or hand-deliver it to your local clerk.

This year, all Michiganders are eligible to vote absentee and everyone is able to register to vote online.***What! Are they crazy in Michigan?*** Hello voter fraud!

If you have recently changed your address, you will need to register that change as well.

http://www.9and10news.com/2020/02/15/state-blames-post-office-error-for-returned-absentee-ballots/

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posted February 18, 2020 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries of fraud on your end jwhop... MI went for the don.
I dont know if they wised up yet.

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posted February 18, 2020 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last time I looked, Jocelyn Benson was Secretary of State and Gretchen Whitmer was Governor...both demokrats.

Further, the voting system in Michigan is set up to promote voter fraud. How do you check all those absentee ballots...and voter registrations on voting day?

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