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BlueRoamer
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posted March 12, 2020 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 16, 2020 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great Leader of The World says he doesn't take "responsibility" for anything. Obviously!

The CDC $$$ BUCK $$$ stopped.. with him.

ref. President Truman's quote, taking Responsibility BECAUSE of being President.

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posted March 16, 2020 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why should President Trump take responsibility for your little Marxist Messiah, Obama's screw-ups?

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posted March 16, 2020 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Why should President Trump take responsibility for your little Marxist Messiah, Obama's screw-ups?

It wasn't Obama's screw-up. He isn't in office.

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posted March 16, 2020 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your little Marxist Communist Socialist Progressive, Obama WAS in office when CDC rules and regulations were put in place for handling outbreaks of contagious diseases. That's what got the remediation of Corona Virus off to a slow start.

Now, fixed...like most everything else...by President Trump.

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posted March 16, 2020 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Your little Marxist Communist Socialist Progressive, Obama [b]WAS in office when CDC rules and regulations were put in place for handling outbreaks of contagious diseases. That's what got the remediation of Corona Virus off to a slow start.

Now, fixed...like most everything else...by President Trump.[/B]


Jwhop, did you read the part in the Fortune article where it says:

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The cuts started in 2018, as the White House focused on eliminating funding to Obama-era disease security programs. In March of that year, Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, whose job it was to lead the U.S. response in the event of a pandemic, abruptly left the administration and his global health security team was disbanded.

That same year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) was forced to slash its efforts to prevent global disease outbreak by 80% as its funding for the program began to run out. The agency, at the time, opted to focus on 10 priority countries and scale back in others, including China.


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posted March 17, 2020 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know some of you think it was terrible to disband The Global Health Security office.

But, those were not doctors. They were National Security Council employees led by
Rear Adm. R. Timothy Ziemer, also not a doctor.

The Center For Disease Control, (CDC) is the proper agency to manage national health issues for the United States, which is what they're doing.

Notice too, the name of the disbanded NSC group, Global Health Security. President Trump is focused on United States Health Security, as he should be.

That doesn't mean there's no US involvement with foreign nations on health issues. The Center For Disease Control, CDC, routinely interacts with foreign nations on health issues. Their services were offered to China early on with their outbreak of Corona Virus but were refused by China.

The Global Health Security office in the NSC was not staffed with doctors or disease researchers and could not have contributed anything to the current Corona Virus problem, or any other health problem.

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posted March 17, 2020 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ETA: Due to later investigation on this matter. I have changed my stance. Tim Morisson, a former National Security Council official has stepped in to rebuke the claims that the Trump administration cut the White House pandemic response office.

From the Washington Examiner:
Former NSC official denies claims that Trump administration cut pandemic response office
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former -nsc-official-denies-claims-that-trump-administration-cut-pandemic-response-office

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posted March 17, 2020 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/SenSherrodBrown/status/1238571872779935744

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posted March 17, 2020 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/SenSherrodBrown/status/1238582557689683968

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posted March 17, 2020 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/ChrisLu44/status/1239690156791169029

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posted March 18, 2020 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why is it that leftist lies always blow up in their little leftist faces? But long after their leftist noses have been rubbed in their lies, their little mushrooms, who are kept in the dark and fed horseshiiite, continue to repeat those lies like they're gospel truth.

And, do leftists ever apologize for lying to their readers and viewers? Seldom if ever!
This is the reason rational people ignore CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, NY Times, Politico, Huffington Post and other leftists sources as a source for news.

Trump Shut Down the CDC’s Pandemic Department!

Do I even need to point out how virulent and widespread this talking point has been?

Sigh:

No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there.

It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.

It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, congressional oversight committees and members of the Obama administration itself all agreed the NSC was too large and too operationally focused (a departure from its traditional role coordinating executive branch activity). As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017.

The reduction of force in the NSC has continued since I departed the White House. But it has left the biodefense staff unaffected.

It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.

In other words, it wasn’t dissolved, it was streamlined.
http://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/03/17/nolte-all-the-establishment-medias-dangerous-coronavirus-lies/

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posted March 18, 2020 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^
You said in your previous post that the office was "disbanded" and you gave a justification for it.

Now are you saying that it was never disbanded or dissolved, just streamlined? And you are relying on Breibart to share your reversal of opinion?

Ok. I am willing to change my mind. So I carefullly tiptoed into Breibart territory to find the source for these new assertions, the person claiming "I was there." I expected some former high ranking official of the office in question.

I found a quote with no name, no reference to a source where I could find the name. It was part of a very long article written by Breibart editor John Nolte. Since he wrote the article, I thought maybe he was the one who "was there". I googled him and I found nothing telling me that he was part of the NSC or part of the disbanded or if you prefer streamlined office.

So I tiptoed back out of Breibart. I gave it a chance. I really did. If you happen to have a better source, or if you happened to catch the name of the person who is quoted in your post, please share it. I am kind of sleepy, I may have missed it. LOL

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posted March 18, 2020 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Belange

I wondered the same thing you did..and did the same things you did to find out 'who' the person identified as I is.

Not finding an answer, I posted this in the article comment section on BREITBART.

"Who is the I...first person singular...who claims to have been head of the CDC Pandemic Dept?

5. Trump Shut Down the CDC’s Pandemic Department!
Do I even need to point out how virulent and widespread this talking point has been?
Sigh:
No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there."

Let's see if someone there responds with an answer.

BTW, You're a sharp reader Belange.

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posted March 18, 2020 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks, Jwhop.

My final google sleuthing led me to TADAAA...Tim Morisson! and he seems legit. He has no reason to be lying, in fact he gave testimony in the house impeachment hearing last year that was not favorable to the president. So this is a man above partisanship and I am willing to trust what he has to say.

From the Washington Examiner:
Former NSC official denies claims that Trump administration cut pandemic response office
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former -nsc-official-denies-claims-that-trump-administration-cut-pandemic-response-office

Top NSC aide Tim Morrison's closed-door impeachment inquiry testimony
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/470793-read-top-nsc-aide -tim-morrisons-closed-door-impeachment-inquiry-testimony


I am honestly throwing up a little in my mouth that people would make such lies to advance political goals.

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posted March 18, 2020 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Belange, here's the answer.

By Tim Morrison
March 16
Tim Morrison is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the National Security Council.

"....It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious."

If you re-read the BREITBART article...
http://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/03/17/nolte-all-the-establ ishment-medias-dangerous-coronavirus-lies/

as I did..again, you'll find the word 'sigh' which is a hot link to a Washington Post article written by Tim Morrison.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/16/no-white-house- didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/

Looks like we both got there at about the same time.

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posted March 18, 2020 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Yep. But I have exhausted my free readings for the months with Washington Post and I am not willing to pay them to access their articles.

I am going back to edit my original post in case people form an opinion without reading the entire thread.

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posted March 18, 2020 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He said that he cut them, on video. Said they weren’t needed, and we could get them back whenever we wanted to. He said it in video. What the hell?

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posted March 19, 2020 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.westernjournal.com/insider-blasts-media-lie-trump-cut-wh-pandemic-office-know-exists-ran/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=conservativetribune&utm_content=2020-03-17&utm_ campaign=manualpost&fbclid=IwAR33hGUjSah8eoAAhhOVnqa1jZUwazZOs7Wzd3TRzkcssSil8AtXv_jiYsA

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