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Topic: The Data Is In On Coronavirus
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todd
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posted May 11, 2020 01:55 AM
  
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Todd, this is planet earth where thousands are dieing or dead from covid 19. Stay at home orders have saved lives.
It's not a hoax.
It's simply been so mismanaged that the facts are muddy
Apparently you only watch the main stream media or even this thread.from day 1 one thePCR technique has been used too determine the mortality rate.but the PCR technique isn’t a tool for diagnosis.the inventor said that.all figures of 15% mortality rate are bogus,that is inaccurate every scientist knows . The scientifically approved method is test for antibodies.using this test several researchers have found the true mortality rate is under 1%,just like the flu.This is a hoax because Fauci and the CDC used PCR. As they are scientist albeit corrupt they new
Knew PCR gives inflated rates,yet instead of using the proven antibodies test.thiscanonly be an attempt to artificially raise the mortality rate so that the quarantine could be rationalized.
Consider that never in history of epidemics or pandemics have healthy people been quarantined.sick people are quarantined not healthy people.
Several health officials including the CDC are telling doctors to mark covid19 as the cause of death if they presume coved-19 was involve even they know this is false.so why are they lying about the real numbers.and if “its a war zone”why have hospitals laid off so many nurses and doctors than many hospitals are going bankrupt.
This hoax is to be able to impliment the new world Oder.
Why have the elite increased theirs wealth by over 300 billion $ the last three weeks?
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Randall
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posted May 11, 2020 01:11 PM
I never said this was the flu. It’s more contagious than the flu. But it’s far less deadly. Even in the epicenter, New York, 24 percent have the antibodies. When you do the math, that is a fatality rate of far less than 1 percent.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted May 11, 2020 01:16 PM
And you posted info from the WHO, Juni? These are the people who told us it was not transmissible between humans. These are the people who helped China cover it up. They have zero credibility. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 11, 2020 01:32 PM
....and yet the don said " its just the flu and will be gone by april" yet you admire and often quote or mimic him . *shakeshead*
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Randall
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posted May 11, 2020 01:33 PM
Also, according to Commie Cuomo himself, 66 percent were infected by staying at home!IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 11, 2020 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Also, according to Commie Cuomo himself, 66 percent were infected by staying at home!
After coming into contact with someone who was infected. Which is why they want us to be careful. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 11, 2020 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by todd:
There are no counter facts.
Since the beginning of the HOAX the PCR analysis has been used to determine mortality rates.but the PCR can not be used for diagnosis. this was said by the creator of the PCR.the decision to use the PCR instead of identifying the antibiodies was a conscious decision to mislead people to accept the self imprisonments .
The new mortality rate are based on antibiodies test.
You really should at least read something of what you think you are talking about.todd
I’ll continue listening to the medical professionals I know, thank you. You could try not thinking that everything is a hoax. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 11, 2020 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Also, according to Commie Cuomo himself, 66 percent were infected by staying at home!
Staying at home sounds much more deadly than getting out in the sun and mingling. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 11, 2020 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Staying at home sounds much more deadly than getting out in the sun and mingling.
Except for that mingling and then going home, is what causes it. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted May 11, 2020 04:49 PM
No, according to the New York governor those 66 percent had no contact. Obviously, being out in the sun is much safer. Not only is natural Vitamin D a deterrent, but UV light rapidly kills it.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 11, 2020 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
No, according to the New York governor those 66 percent had no contact. Obviously, being out in the sun is much safer. Not only is natural Vitamin D a deterrent, but UV light rapidly kills it.
No contact whatsoever, for six weeks? No grocery shopping, walks in the park, nobody stowing away to meet someone? No food or coffee delivery? IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 11, 2020 08:45 PM
http://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/11/who-warns-that-coronavirus-cases-have-jumped-in-countries-that-eased-lockdowns.html IP: Logged |
juniperb
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posted May 11, 2020 09:20 PM
Lockdown or not, I get outside every day. Sunshine or not.
Everyone should take a walk every day for goodness sake.
Cities must have balconies or some means of getting fresh air and sun.
Stay at home does not mean dont go outside.------------------
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jwhop
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posted May 11, 2020 10:13 PM
"Lockdown or not, I get outside every day. Sunshine or not.
Everyone should take a walk every day for goodness sake."Yes, but you must wear a mask...and stay at least 6 feet away from trees, flowers, garden vegetables, rocks, dirt and critters. Enjoy! IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted May 12, 2020 01:22 AM
Commie Cuomo said it, not me. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted May 12, 2020 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by teasel:
http://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/11/who-warns-that-coronavirus-ca ses-have-jumped-in-countries-that-eased-lockdowns.html
Each time I actually looked into the figures behind those alarmist articles, I have found really insignificant raises in the rates.
I am now convinced some medical authorities and some news media have a vested interest in keeping the public in a state of fear. because it keeps us glued to our media box of TV or computer, and it keeps us in an infantile state of dependence on medical "professionals" for our health. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted May 12, 2020 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Also, according to Commie Cuomo himself, 66 percent were infected by staying at home!
Do you have a link?
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Belage
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posted May 12, 2020 09:27 AM
I think people are beginning to unconsciously rebel against this enforced tyraniccal fearmongering. I live in a progressive state, and I drove by the lake this weekend, there were about thousands of people out there enjoying the lovely weather, like prisoners who broke out of jail!  You could tell they were so happy to be out in the sun, by the water, breathing fresh air, and there was nary a mask in sight. Those were not swastikas carrying people, nor were they NRA gun toting folks. Just regular folks who have had enough sequestration and needed a breath of fresh hair and some return to normalcy. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted May 12, 2020 10:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPFxQ4TfCx0 IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 12, 2020 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by teasel:
[b] http://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/11/who-warns-that-coronavirus-ca ses-have-jumped-in-countries-that-eased-lockdowns.html
Each time I actually looked into the figures behind those alarmist articles, I have found really insignificant raises in the rates.
I am now convinced some medical authorities and some news media have a vested interest in keeping the public in a state of fear. because it keeps us glued to our media box of TV or computer, and it keeps us in an infantile state of dependence on medical "professionals" for our health. [/B][/QUOTE]You mean like my epidemiologist friend Emily, who knows what she’s talking about? She doesn’t encourage dependence, she encourages caution. I’m not glued to anything. I haven’t been. As usual, people scare me more than any disease. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 12, 2020 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Lockdown or not, I get outside every day. Sunshine or not.
Everyone should take a walk every day for goodness sake.
Cities must have balconies or some means of getting fresh air and sun.
Stay at home does not mean dont go outside.
Exactly. I haven’t been outside much, because I was up all night, until the end of last week, and it’s been freezing cold here. I have found it interesting that people who thought I was melodramatic over feeling lonely when I’ve been alone so much, couldn’t take six weeks of staying at home. Choosing time alone is one thing; being isolated is another. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 12, 2020 11:17 AM
http://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1705047609635118&id=100003896857275 IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted May 12, 2020 05:47 PM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/white-house-directs-offi cials-to-wear-masks-at-all-times-inside-white-house-source-11589224333 White House Directs Officials to Wear Masks at All Times Inside the West Wing
Trump, Pence aren’t expected to wear face coverings, but memo instructs staffers to do so following two new infections last week IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted May 12, 2020 07:44 PM
Todd,
The inventor on PCR tests proves beyond doubt that HIV and other viruses can be detected. He got the Nobel peace prize. I understand antibodies tests could give false positives.
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todd
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posted May 12, 2020 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Todd,
The inventor on PCR tests proves beyond doubt that HIV and other viruses can be detected. He got the Nobel peace prize. I understand antibodies tests could give false positives.
You have it backwards.why don't you read up on this instead of offering your ignorant opinion.
Ok.. what the PCR does is that it takes a miniscule sample of say RNA, this sample is so small that the genetists can't do comprehensive test.so the PCR technique, briefly,replicates the small sample thousands of times until there is enough of the sample to test.the problem and the creator of the technique said is that you don't know how much of the sample there was in the beginning because it has been replicated 10s of thousand times.everybidy has millions of viruses and bacteria in us and on us.your immune system keeps these in check.vut when the concentration if a particular virus gets high enough to overwhelm your immune system,you get sick.the PCR can't give the actual amount present so it can't be used for diagnosis.all bacterialogist agree on this.The anti-bodies test does not give false positives.it detects anti-bodies in your body that are created by your immune system when it reacts to a virus or bacteria.so if you test positive for a anti-body,it shows you had that virus already. This accepted science so the fact that fauci and the media jumped on the PCR means they wanted to put out inflated numbers to legitimize the quarantine.
This is also why Trump didn't want to test everyone because the anribody test would show the real rate of mortality.
Now that doctors are publishing the results of anti-body testing,it is showing mortality rates of less than 1%. But the media is still using the false PCR data to support the facist lockdown. This is why this is a obvious hoax...the MSM and the corrupt minions of fauci and gates are flat out lying. todd
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