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Topic: "When the looting starts, the shooting starts".
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 03:45 PM
http://twitter.com/angie_rasmussen/status/1267123805106761728 "Another awful “both sides” armchair epidemiologist take.
Mass gatherings facilitate #COVID19 transmission, whether it’s a giant pool party or a protest against racist violence and murder. The difference between those two types of gatherings is that only one is necessary." IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 11879 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 04:21 PM
Belage, this is the dons first flu that he has under control and his first riots.. He encourages violence and the flu will be gone by April... But wait, isnt this May? He will pay dearly for his aiding and abetting the induced chaos of this country. Either by a higher power, karma, vicious dogs or a sane voting public. ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 11879 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 04:28 PM
etherealsaturn My heart goes out to you and your city. Out to every soul suffering from the violence, chaos and pandemic. Dark times indeed 😥 Violence is not justice. Vigilante justice is of the dark ages and should never be accepted by any citizen or leaders . We need unity and every sane compassionate human being needs to strive to achieve it. Be well!
------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 11879 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 04:45 PM
You can bet every city rioting will see a surge in covid 19 cases. A double whammy these cities and honest citizens dont deserve . Does anyone know where the outsiders come from or who the instigators are? ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 127951 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 06:02 PM
There won't be a surge in COVID-19 cases. The CDC admits that the fatality rate is only .26 percent. It's ANTIFA causing much of the damage.IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3037 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 07:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: etherealsaturn My heart goes out to you and your city. Out to every soul suffering from the violence, chaos and pandemic. Dark times indeed 😥 Violence is not justice. Vigilante justice is of the dark ages and should never be accepted by any citizen or leaders . We need unity and every sane compassionate human being needs to strive to achieve it. Be well!
I am with you. But I also know that no president, Commander in Chief, Prime Minister, Head of State etc, is going to watch his country descend into chaos and mob rule and not send a strong message. And that message is not going to be let's sing Kumbaya.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 3037 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 07:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: There won't be a surge in COVID-19 cases. The CDC admits that the fatality rate is only .26 percent. It's ANTIFA causing much of the damage.
Well, that will be the litmus test. We've been told reopening the economy and allowing people to congregate in large numbers would bring up a deadly surge of Covid. I saw on my screen large numbers of people with little social distancing. Let's see how those predictions pan out. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 08:45 PM
This dickhead is in hiding, and still tweeting away: http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1267227396341669889 IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 08:46 PM
http://www.vice.com/en_us/article/5dzbyb/a-pregnant-woman-miscarried-after-california-police-allegedly-stomped-on-her-stomach "A Pregnant Black Woman Miscarried After California Police Allegedly ‘Stomped’ on Her Stomach"
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 11879 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 09:27 PM
Belage, you or anyone can sing Kumbaya Til the cows come home. I look to sanity, logic and compassion. A bit different than lackadaisical sing alongs. The don should and may be forced to give a national speech addressing unity and down with violence and destruction. Always room for hope before this country splinters and destroys it's self !! ------------------ Partial truth~the seeds of wisdom~can be found in many places...The seeds of wisdom are contained in all scriptures ever written… especially in art, music, and poetry and, above all, in Nature.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 3037 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 31, 2020 10:11 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 127951 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 02:05 AM
What dickhead is hiding? Oh, you must be talking about Biden in his basement. Either we are going to see a whole lot of sick Democrats who looted and burned down buildings in 14 days from Corona or we will see that there was a whole lot of lying from Democrats about Corona. Either way is a win.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 02:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Nah. Trump is not talking any differently now than he did when he was running. In fact, he has been remarkably consistent. The surbuban women know who they voted for.
Not all suburban women voted for him. It's very clear to many of us that he has continued with the same attitude that he ran with. He was excusing violence from his supporters, during his campaign - he offered to pay the legal fees for those who assaulted protesters. Now, instead of doing what he expected of a woman (meeting with protesters), he's fanning the flames, when his duty is to look out for *everyone*. Nothing about him is tough - he looks for it in others, and riles up his supporters. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 02:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: You can bet every city rioting will see a surge in covid 19 cases. A double whammy these cities and honest citizens dont deserve . Does anyone know where the outsiders come from or who the instigators are?
I wanted to attend a peaceful protest, and was going to figure out how to do it safely. A friend of mine in NYS, near the border, said that her town had a socially distant protest. I'm not in favour of violence, but a lot of it seems to be coming from the police, not the protesters. Maybe if those protesters in Michigan, and elsewhere, hadn't protested with *guns*, and tried to scare lawmakers, they would have been taken more seriously. I feel for anyone who is living through this - I have friends who are scared, and dealing with this, too. I also have friends who feel grateful that they've managed to survive another day in America, as a black person. They aren't out there looting, they're wishing that people understood, and will stand for *actual* change, instead of lip service, and nothing really happening to change things. Also: if people were only concerned about making a living, and nothing else, what's with the mocking of people wearing masks, and trying to keep a safe distance? Randall said that if he owned a store, he would throw out anyone who wore a mask in there. WHY? A friend of mine dealt with harassment, glares, and nasty comments, because she wore a mask to the grocery store. Other people have mentioned the same thing. People are deliberately not being careful, like toddlers, and what kind of point are they trying to make? They harm whatever message the rest of you were trying to get across. Several of you sneered at me, for being concerned. I was just scared, or wanted people to die of suicide or starvation, right? None of this is a joke. None of it. I tried to have a socially distant visit with my aunt a week ago, and her husband. I used a gas station bathroom, because I wasn't going to use theirs, but nobody was being safe, and I accidentally bumped into three people, trying to avoid a woman coming out of the bathroom. I didn't get to see my aunt at all, because I didn't know what they had been doing, who they'd been around, or if they'd been sick. I stayed in the van, because I suddenly felt like a potential Typhoid Mary, and was afraid to get even six feet away from them. I didn't want to touch anything in or around their small home. My aunt has cancer, and we found out over a week ago, that it has spread. I couldn't see her, couldn't give her or my uncle a hug. She's probably going to die, and people out there want to **** around because they don't want to wear a mask, and because your ******* president has encouraged them all to "fight the oppressive system", that didn't have them literally locked in their homes, or police shooting anyone with rubber bullets, and tear gas, or running their cars into people. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 02:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: What dickhead is hiding? Oh, you must be talking about Biden in his basement. Either we are going to see a whole lot of sick Democrats who looted and burned down buildings in 14 days from Corona or we will see that there was a whole lot of lying from Democrats about Corona. Either way is a win.
Biden who was out there talking to people? As your guy hid in the basement, and turned off the lights to the White House?
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 127951 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 02:31 AM
If you watched real news, you would see how much looting is going on. Yes, Biden finally left his basement for a photo op. What a trooper!IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 02:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: If you watched real news, you would see how much looting is going on. Yes, Biden finally left his basement for a photo op. What a trooper!
What's "real news" to you? I saw all kinds of videos, and live feeds from different news sources. I saw reporters and cameramen get arrested. Police shooting rubber bullets at others. The list goes on. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 03:09 AM
http://www.vox.com/2020/5/30/21275507/minneapolis-george-floyd-protests-police-violence Rather than sneer at the website this is published on, why not take in the actual message?
"Violent protests are not the story. Police violence is. The protests will eventually end. But state-sanctioned violence against black Americans won’t."
At the protest in Cleveland, most people were wearing masks, and some were handing out bottles of water, and hand sanitizer. They weren't there to cause trouble, or to loot, they were there in support of the people who are scared they will be the next George Floyd, or that one of their children could be the next Tamir Rice. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 127951 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 03:50 AM
I have no problem with peaceful protests. It’s your constitutional right. I’m disturbed by Floyd’s murder. But if you are using the murder of a man as an excuse to steal a big screen tv, you are not a protester—you are a POS.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 03:57 AM
http://twitter.com/douglasmack/status/1267253740974886912 "Just talked to a neighbor who has been out documenting things every night. He says he has personally seen multiple fires set, each by young white men who work in teams—one starts spraying graffiti, a second casually smashes a window, a third tosses in an incendiary device."
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 3037 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 09:52 AM
Again a lot of confusing double talking. If looting is okay, then it doesn't matter who is doing it, right? Or is is only okay if blacks are looting? Then we can spin all sort of socio-political theories to justify it? If you are now saying and believing the looting and instigating are done by Alt-right groups who have infiltrated Antifas (that's the latest conspiracy theory I am hearing on various medias), then why are you still up in arms about the possibility that they might get shot while doing their nefarious deeds? I am not losing sleep over Alt-right getting shot while causing mayhem... If people truly believe Alt-right is behind all the mayhem, then why are they still taking to the street and marching "peacefully" since it will predictably degenerate? Now, on to the Antifa folks. If they are so hapless and clueless that they have become a portal or vector for Alt-right to use as coverup, then maybe they should cull their ranks or disband. In any case, I do anticipate the unrest to continue until at least the full moon eclipse that's coming up on the US' ascendant/descendant axis with fiery Mars squaring it. After which hopefully things might become clearer.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 05:09 PM
http://twitter.com/tessrmalle/status/1266945413258653696 "#denver police caught on camera throwing a reporter into a fire for trying to take a picture of the scene #DenverRiots #BlackLivesMatter #FTP"
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 05:24 PM
A long list here: http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10157804802459079&id=133041234078 "Police Erupt in Violence Nationwide" http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/george-floyd-protests-police-violence.html
Just weeks ago, "Sacrifice the weak" was what some of you were in favour of: http://www.newsbreak.com/news/0OqQHX3T/anti-lockdown-protester-wields-vile-sacrifice-the-weak-poster-at-reopen-tennessee-rally "Michigan Gov. Whitmer: Men With Rifles Have Stood Outside Our Home" http://deadlinedetroit.com/articles/25361/michigan_gov_whitmer_men_with_rifles_have_stood_outside_our_home
"Armed protesters gather at Ohio Statehouse ahead of Gov. DeWine’s coronavirus briefing; state’s death toll tops 1,000" http://www.cleveland19.com/2020/05/01/gov-dewine-dr-acton-speak-ohios-stay-at-home-order-gets-extended-st-phase-reopening-launches/
"DeWine: I am fair game for protests, Dr. Acton and the media are not" http://local12.com/news/local/gov-dewine-gives-his-daily-covid-19-briefing-05-04-2020
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 05:36 PM
"Police Erupt in Violence Nationwide" http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/george-floyd-protests-police-violence.html versus: "'Swastikas and nooses': governor slams 'racism' of Michigan lockdown protest" http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/03/michigan-gretchen-whitmer-lockdown-protest-racism
"Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan issued a rebuke of the armed protesters who gathered inside the state capitol last week in defiance of statewide lockdown orders, saying the demonstrators embodied some of the “worst racism” of the nation’s history. “Some of the outrageousness of what happened at our capitol depicted some of the worst racism and awful parts of our history in this country,” Whitmer said during a Sunday interview on CNN’s State of the Union. Last week Donald Trump had said of the protesters: “These are very good people.” Hundreds of protesters, many not wearing protective face masks and some armed legally with “long guns”, gathered inside the statehouse in Lansing on Thursday as lawmakers debated the Democratic governor’s request to extend her emergency powers to combat the coronavirus pandemic. The tightly packed crowd attempted to enter the floor of the legislative chamber and were held back by a line of state police and capitol staff, according to video footage posted by local journalists. "Last week, the Democratic congresswoman Rashida Tlaib, who represents Michigan’s 13th congressional district, condemned the demonstrations at the state Capitol. “Black people get executed by police for just existing, while white people dressed like militia members carrying assault weapons are allowed to threaten State Legislators and staff,” Tlaib wrote in a tweet on Thursday." "The protests continued to draw national attention on Friday when Trump once again threw his support behind the rightwing movement, saying Whitmer should “make a deal” with the demonstrators. “The governor of Michigan should give a little, and put out the fire,” the president wrote on Twitter. “These are very good people, but they are angry. They want their lives back again, safely! See them, talk to them, make a deal.” From a 3-4 weeks ago. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 14805 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 01, 2020 05:53 PM
http://apnews.com/d41cdf6cefbb3e5603a28e6dc07f9589?utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&fbclid=IwAR2Y8NRoSoEHSA5uLQYhglFucS0aFI3IATJEFZQeQNRi0UkxxUIULBcmtZQ Family autopsy: Floyd asphyxiated by sustained pressure
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