posted June 26, 2020 08:00 AM            

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Originally posted by shura:
You're actually losing Texas, you stoopid head in the sand repubs.

D E M O G R A P H I C S

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Name calling in this civil respectful forum

The longer the Texas covid crisis continues, the more votes the don loses. Apples to apples.

posted June 26, 2020 08:24 AM            

"120 million Americans have died"

"My name is Joe Biden, and I am running for the U.S. Senate."

Good luck with that.

posted June 26, 2020 09:58 AM            

When he emerges and is forced to say something and take a position publicly and offer his leadership regarding the riots, CHAZ/CHOP, statue removals and defacing, defunding the police etc, the resulting polls will be more closer to the truth.

The democrats apparent strategy for November is:
*Keep Covid alive and people scared in their pants with inflated and NON VERIFIABLE stats.
*Destroy the economy with enforced lockdown.
*And blame it all on Trump, while Biden does and say as little as possible.

posted June 26, 2020 10:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Cali is so looney tunes now that it is unrecognizable from Reagan-era days.

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yes, but why?

posted June 26, 2020 10:46 AM            

yeah it's funny and no, no one cares.

People are voting *against* Trump, not *for* Biden. People are, remarkably, beginning to understand that we don't put a man in the White House, we vote in an administration. We vote in an ideology. We are purely reactionary voters now. "vote blue, no matter who"

What Belage said.

posted June 26, 2020 10:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Cali is so looney tunes now that it is unrecognizable from Reagan-era days. Climate change hysteria drives all of their wacky decisions. Texas is fossil fuel central. So, yes, apples and oranges.

And for the record, Juni, I never said President Trump said he was going to let statues go down to make the Dems look bad. That was my idea. I was only talking about leaving CHOP alone in Seattle, which he said himself. President Trump is actually taking action to protect monuments, and he has the Jackson statue being guarded.

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I checked Trump's Tweet on this, and the twitter mob went all out with jeers and taunts.

Anyway, I think this issue should be left to the states to deal with. Let the concerned voters of each state see who cares about this issue and who doesn't care. South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem tweeted in response to activists possibly trying to blow up Mount Rushmore, a simple: Not on My Watch.

posted June 26, 2020 06:15 PM            

How the Survey was Conducted

Nature of the Sample: NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll of 1,640 National Adults

This survey 1,640 adults was conducted June 22nd through June 24th, 2020 by The Marist Poll sponsored in partnership with NPR and PBS NewsHour. Adults 18 years of age and older residing in the contiguous United States were contacted on landline or mobile numbers and interviewed by telephone using live interviewers. Survey questions were available in English or Spanish. Mobile telephone numbers were randomly selected based upon a list of telephone exchanges from throughout the nation. The exchanges were selected to ensure that each region was represented in proportion to its population. Mobile phones are treated as individual devices. After validation of age, personal ownership, and non-business-use of the mobile phone, interviews are typically conducted with the person answering the phone. To increase coverage, this mobile sample was supplemented by respondents reached through random dialing of landline phone numbers. Within each landline household, a single respondent is selected through a random selection process to increase the representativeness of traditionally under-covered survey populations. The samples were then combined and balanced to reflect the 2017 American Community Survey 1-year estimates for age, gender, income, race, and region. Results are statistically significant within ±3.3 percentage points. There are 1,515 registered voters. The results for this subset are statistically significant within ±3.5 percentage points. Tables include results for subgroups with a minimum sample size of 100 unweighted completed interviews as to only display crosstabs with an acceptable sampling error. It should be noted that although you may not see results listed for a certain group, it does not mean interviews were not completed with those individuals. It simply means the sample size is too small to report. The error margin was adjusted for sample weights and increases for cross-tabulations.

posted June 26, 2020 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:

People are voting *against* Trump, not *for* Biden.

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True. And there are people who are voting against the Democratic party. There are also people who have never voted Republican who are voting for President Trump, including life long Democrats.

I read an account of an M.D. who was against the President six months ago who is voting for him.

posted June 26, 2020 07:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I am not sure polls are meaningful right now. Biden has been hiding and not been heard off on the significant thorny issues of today. Staying out of the public discourse works for him for now but for how long?

When he emerges and is forced to say something and take a position publicly and offer his leadership regarding the riots, CHAZ/CHOP, statue removals and defacing, defunding the police etc, the resulting polls will be more closer to the truth.

The democrats apparent strategy for November is:
*Keep Covid alive and people scared in their pants with inflated and NON VERIFIABLE stats.
*Destroy the economy with enforced lockdown.
*And blame it all on Trump, while Biden does and say as little as possible.

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I agree with your analysis. I want to say I appreciate your objectivity and clarity.

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ETA: as a life long democrat, I never thought I would see the party sink so low in its hatred of Trump. Never thought I would see the day they would rather drag the country into ruin just to get Trump out.

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I'm an independent who has voted Green for years, but not this year. It's a rather strange position to find myself in, defending a Republican president, but sedition is not okay with me.

posted June 26, 2020 07:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I am not sure polls are meaningful right now. Biden has been hiding and not been heard off on the significant thorny issues of today. Staying out of the public discourse works for him for now but for how long?

When he emerges and is forced to say something and take a position publicly and offer his leadership regarding the riots, CHAZ/CHOP, statue removals and defacing, defunding the police etc, the resulting polls will be more closer to the truth.

The democrats apparent strategy for November is:
*Keep Covid alive and people scared in their pants with inflated and NON VERIFIABLE stats.
*Destroy the economy with enforced lockdown.
*And blame it all on Trump, while Biden does and say as little as possible.

ETA: as a life long democrat, I never thought I would see the party sink so low in its hatred of Trump. Never thought I would see the day they would rather drag the country into ruin just to get Trump out.

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posted June 27, 2020 07:52 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Trump supporters are the ones keeping Covid alive. I usually understand your posts, but not at the moment. Trump is the one acting like it's all over and done with, he doesn't wear a mask, isn't encouraging others to. He wanted everything opened up. It's getting worse mostly where he has supporters.

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I notice a common refrain here. From President Trump and his supporters are to blame for Covid19 to Pelosi's blaming Republicans for George Floyd's death.

posted July 02, 2020 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Ok jwhop, you throw out poll stats too.
Give me 3 names of polls you use as closer to facts.

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Rasmussen Presidential Approval Poll is a good indicator.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jul01

posted July 02, 2020 07:44 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Just now, Trump on resurgence of virus as cases are spiking in several states:
“We are putting out that life because it’s a bad life that we’re talking about.”

Battle of Two Dementia Patients...

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First of all, I would argue that if the President's mental faculties were impaired as you believe, he would have been destroyed after Crossfire Hurricane, the Mueller investigation, and impeachment. He has not started World War III. We wouldn't have an economy that's added almost five millions jobs last month. It's not plausible that a person suffering from dementia could do this.

As to the surge in cases. More testing equals more cases. Second, people who are testing positive for antibodies are not distinguished from people who are testing positive for the virus itself. Both are included, which raises the number of cases. In New York, doctors are being told to count as Covid19 deaths, deceased Covid19 patients who also had other serious health issues. The more Covid19 cases, the more money the state gets from the federal government. So, no one really knows what the true number of deaths from Covid19 really is. And yet, these numbers are being reported by the media.

What is not being reported are the number of patients who have recovered from the virus. In the State of AZ, for example, record numbers are being released from hospitals. The media is not reporting this. They're only reporting the number of cases and deaths.

posted July 02, 2020 07:50 PM            

Norpoth said his model works for every presidential election since 1912, with the exception of the 1960 election. Overall the model has an accuracy rate of 96.1%.

Professor who predicted Trump's 2016 win explains why he thinks Trump will win again
Julia Musto

A political science professor who predicted President Trump's win in 2016 is forecasting another victory.

In an interview on "The Ingraham Angle." Stony Brook University's Helmut Norpoth stated Friday that he believes the key to another victory for the president lies in the examination of primary races.

"OK, the key to the November election is the primaries. And, the only primaries [are] already giving us a lot of information," he explained.

"And, based on that, Donald Trump won them very easily in his party," Norpoth continued. "Joe Biden -- the likely nominee for the Democrats -- had a great deal of trouble holding it together. But, on balance, it's that stronger performance of primaries that gives Donald Trump the edge in November."

Norpoth’s “Primary Model” shows that President Trump has a 91 percent chance of being reelected and also shows he would get 362 electoral votes. The model is based on a statistical and historical theory that the professor outlines.......

posted July 04, 2020 01:49 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:

Norpoth said his model works for every presidential election since 1912, with the exception of the 1960 election. Overall the model has an accuracy rate of 96.1%.

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That's impressive.

posted July 04, 2020 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Dhyana:
That's impressive.

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This prediction is not based on polls but on strength of candidates in primary races. We'll see if this holds up for the 2020 election.

Joe Biden: I'm Joe Biden's Husband, Joe Biden
Kyle Olson
3 Jul 2020

Joe Biden appeared to suffer another mental malfunction on Friday when he referred to himself as Joe Biden's husband.

The presumptive Democrat nominee for president was speaking to the National Education Association annual conference, and union president Lily Eskelsen Garcia touted Jill Biden's membership in the largely compulsory organization.

She then introduced Biden, who said, I'm Joe Biden's Husband, Joe Biden.

He didn't correct himself and launched into his remarks...........