posted June 26, 2020 12:31 PM            

A person, group, or organization that uses violent action, or the threat of violent action, to further political goals.

Terrorist
BLM Leader: We'll 'Burn' the System Down If U.S. Won't Give Us What We Want
Meghan Roos
6/25/20

"If this country doesn't give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it," said Hawk Newsome, chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, during an interview with Fox News.(Terrorist)

http://www.newsweek.com/blm-leader-well-burn-system-down-if-us-wont-give-us-what-we-want-1513422

posted June 26, 2020 02:38 PM            

So, show Trump's quote where he advised Whitless and other leftist loon mayors and governors to give armed protesters what they wanted.

posted June 26, 2020 05:49 PM            

By definition, I take it literally, terrorist.

Figuratively, it is still a veiled threat.

posted June 26, 2020 06:40 PM            

"If this country doesn't give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it," said Hawk Newsome, chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, during an interview with Fox News.

Further down he continues:

"I could be speaking figuratively, I could be speaking literally. It's a matter of interpretation."

This is ambiguous, to say the least. This is a leader in the movement. He's not denying he could mean literally "burn down the system."

Could be why I wasn't able to find any reports of BLM condemning the violence or the setting of fires at protests.

"We're talking about saving lives," he said. "Nobody's talking about ambushing police officers. We're talking about protecting lives.

Meaning black lives taken by police. But, if BLM is talking about defunding the police, many lives will not be protected, including black lives.

"I just want Black liberation and Black sovereignty—by any means necessary," he said.

posted June 27, 2020 06:18 PM            

President Donald Trump on Friday shared a list of people responsible for vandalizing property in Lafayette Park.

MANY people in custody, with many others being sought for Vandalization of Federal Property in Lafayette Park, Trump wrote on Twitter. 10 year prison sentences!

The president shared an FBI flyer with the photos of 15 suspects involved with the attempt to topple the statue of President Andrew Jackson on the night of June 22. Park police thwarted the attempt before the statue was toppled.

Several of the individuals pictured in the flyers were wearing masks but others were not.

MANY people in custody, with many others being sought for Vandalization of Federal Property in Lafayette Park. 10 year prison sentences! @FBIWFO pic.twitter.com/mrLyxbWNvq

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 26, 2020

The FBI said that the individuals in the flyer were responsible for pusuing the destruction of government property, subject to a felony offense....

posted June 27, 2020 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
That would include the armed protesters in April and May.

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"Burning the system down" is something that's been said for years, by all kinds of people.

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True. Except, the people that are being arrested and sought by the DOJ are engaged in literally burning the system down.

Also, Hawk Newsome, chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, during an interview with Fox News, stated:

"I could be speaking figuratively, I could be speaking literally. It's a matter of interpretation."

He's not denying he could mean literally "burn down the system."
http://www.newsweek.com/blm-leader-well-burn-system-down-if-us-wont-give-us-what-we-want-1513422

posted June 27, 2020 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
******* Nadler called ANTIFA "imaginary." What an idiot. Who votes for fools like him?

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Project Veritas should send him the taped conversation with an undercover infiltrator of Antifa from Oregon.

posted June 27, 2020 09:27 PM            

The first word of my post was dumb*ass, in case anyone was wondering.

posted June 27, 2020 11:51 PM            

"“Hawk Newsome has no relation to the Black Lives Matter Global Network”

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-06-25/black-l ives-matter-network-debunks-trump-twitter-post

posted June 28, 2020 08:44 PM            

John Lewis, a representative in the House from Georgia, was a close ally of Martin Luther King during the civil-rights movement in the 1960s.

"In a statement, Lewis, who is suffering from late-stage pancreatic cancer, said that watching the Minneapolis videos reminded him of the murder of Emmett Till, in 1955, and all that followed—“the recanted accusation, the sham trial, the dreaded verdict.” Then Lewis makes his plea: 'To the rioters here in Atlanta and across the country: I see you, and I hear you. I know your pain, your rage, your sense of despair and hopelessness. Justice has, indeed, been denied for far too long. Rioting, looting, and burning is not the way. Organize. Demonstrate. Sit-in. Stand-up. Vote.'

Alicia Garza, one of the co-founders of Black Lives Matter Global Network, said that although she deeply respected Lewis, she differed with his emphasis. “It’s a familiar pattern: to call for peace and calm but direct it in the wrong places,” she told me. 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/an-american-uprising-george-floyd-minneapolis-protests

The Black Lives Matter Global Network website does not identify itself as a non-violent organization.

In the New Yorker piece, it's clear that Lewis's stand is clearly for non-violence. Garza does not condone violence but neither does she condemn it.

Further, the BLM Global Network website does not contain any statement as to its stance on the use of violence to achieve its political goals. However, their recent press release regarding Hawk Newsome appears to be a public statement against what Newsome is advocating, which is violent overthrow of the government, if necessary, although it doesn't say so explicitly.

Although there is some ambiguity as to what BLM's position is on violence, nothing I've seen indicates that they are a terrorist organization.

posted June 28, 2020 11:29 PM            

Ambiguity at the right time and under the right circumstances can serve as a blank canvas on which people project their own hope and ideas. The base can think BLM does not condemn violence which implicitly means BLM condones it, and the new corporate allies can think BLM does not condone violence and it's okay to donate money to them to signal virtue and wokeness. Win win for BLM.

posted June 29, 2020 08:29 AM            

Black Lives Matter organizer Devonere Armani Johnson had a simple and straightforward message of racial justice for Madison store owners of all races.

"Give me money or we'll break windows," the repeat offender had allegedly told them.

The “Free Yeshua” Madison riots began when the police arrested the BLM thug.

Johnson, who also goes by Yeshua Musa or Jesus Moses, was busted after following an older white man into Coopers Tavern while shouting, “you’re a racist” at him through a megaphone, before lecturing the patrons on his opinion that, “Jesus was not a white man.”

"His name was Horace," Devorene/Yeshua asserted, "and he was plagiarized from ancient Egypt." He explained that Jesus had been sent by Queen Elizabeth to bring slaves to America...........

posted June 29, 2020 09:01 AM            

Yesterday a blk female editor for the New York Times said, "White women are lucky we are just calling them 'Karens' and not calling for revenge."

posted June 29, 2020 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
Remember when the the Toronto BLM founder, a Sudanese woman, said whites are "subhuman" and "genetic defects"? Remember when she asked Allah for the "strength not to kill white people"?

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Her name is Yusra Khogali. I just read about her. According to BLM Global Network's website, Toronto BLM is a chapter. I wonder how many people in this movement share this view.

posted June 29, 2020 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
[b]Black Lives Matter Organizer: 'Give Me Money or We'll Break Windows'
"You don't want 600 people to come here and destroy your business and burn it down."
Mon Jun 29, 2020
Daniel Greenfield

Black Lives Matter organizer Devonere Armani Johnson had a simple and straightforward message of racial justice for Madison store owners of all races.

"Give me money or we'll break windows," the repeat offender had allegedly told them.

The “Free Yeshua” Madison riots began when the police arrested the BLM thug.

Johnson, who also goes by Yeshua Musa or Jesus Moses, was busted after following an older white man into Coopers Tavern while shouting, “you’re a racist” at him through a megaphone, before lecturing the patrons on his opinion that, “Jesus was not a white man.”

"His name was Horace," Devorene/Yeshua asserted, "and he was plagiarized from ancient Egypt." He explained that Jesus had been sent by Queen Elizabeth to bring slaves to America...........

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posted June 29, 2020 08:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
^^^ The ambiguity is calculated.

Ambiguity at the right time and under the right circumstances can serve as a blank canvas on which people project their own hope and ideas. The base can think BLM does not condemn violence which implicitly means BLM condones it, and the new corporate allies can think BLM does not condone violence and it's okay to donate money to them to signal virtue and wokeness. Win win for BLM.

Joe Biden is similarly coasting on ambiguity right now and is milking it for all its worth.

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posted June 29, 2020 09:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Considering their open embrace of Marxist communism, and their lack of firm and decisive language condemning violent measures, I think their intention is quite clear. It’s plausible deniability.

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