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Dhyana
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posted June 30, 2020 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Organizers for a “Defund the Police” protest requested a police presence for their own safety...

No, this is not the "Onion."

I wasn't able to imbed the Twitter, but here's the link, if anyone's interested in seeing the clip. Scroll down a bit to post June 27.

https://twitter.com/thejtlewis

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shura
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posted June 30, 2020 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The infamous Minneapolis council as well
http://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/06/27/minneapolis-council-members-who-voted-to-abolish-cops-get-private-security/amp/


As I said in another thread, we are headed toward an increasingly impotent, ineffectual police presence. With that comes an increase in private security and gated communities.

Brazilification.

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posted June 30, 2020 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Defund is to minimize the force, not eliminate it.

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posted June 30, 2020 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BLM are abolitionists. They have always been so. They are telling us this and yet some of us are still denying it. lol

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Dhyana
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posted June 30, 2020 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shura:

As I said in another thread, we are headed toward an increasingly impotent, ineffectual police presence. With that comes an increase in private security and gated communities.

Brazilification.


Higher crime rates also. New York is seeing an 342 percent increase in shootings last week.

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/06/22/new-york-city-sees-28-shootings-in-72-hours-mayor-calls-trend-very-troubling/

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Dhyana
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posted June 30, 2020 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Dhyana
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posted June 30, 2020 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Defund is to minimize the force, not eliminate it.

Apparently, given the increases in shootings lately, a distinction without a difference to criminals.

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posted June 30, 2020 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Defund isn't about taking away all of their money. JFC.

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posted June 30, 2020 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
teasel, pay attention fer chrissakes

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shura
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posted June 30, 2020 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One example: Here, in their list of demands, is a call for the ELIMINATION of the Seattle Police Force.
http://medium.com/@seattleblmanon3/the-demands-of-the-collective-black-voices-at-free-capitol-hill-to-the-government-of-seattle-ddaee51d3e47

"The Seattle Police Department and attached court system are beyond reform. We do not request reform, we demand abolition. We demand that the Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus. This means 100% of funding, including existing pensions for Seattle Police. At an equal level of priority we also demand that the city disallow the operations of ICE in the city of Seattle."

If you continue to insist BLM and/or Antifa wish otherwise, you are neither stupid nor ignorant but instead a shameless liar. Previously, Ive given you the benefit of the doubt and assumed stupid or ignorant. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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posted June 30, 2020 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
teasel, pay attention fer chrissakes

I am, and I haven't been feeling well for days, so I don't have much to say, beyond what I already said above.

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posted June 30, 2020 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Demand abolition not reform. Thats ballsy.

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posted June 30, 2020 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Demand abolition not reform. Thats ballsy.


And why not? The Eloi aren't fighting back.

As I said, a fire in the belly.

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posted July 01, 2020 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
One example: Here, in their list of demands, is a call for the ELIMINATION of the Seattle Police Force.

We demand that the Seattle Council and the Mayor defund and abolish the Seattle Police Department and the attached Criminal Justice Apparatus. This means 100% of funding, including existing pensions for Seattle Police.


Including pensions. They don't just want the police to lose their jobs, they're upping the ante to make them suffer even more.

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posted July 01, 2020 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know 'how' clear I am about everything in the news and what's going on.

'Defunding the Police' is dangerous and ridiculous??!!

Instead, like I've said in another post,
RAISE MONEY 'for' the other alternatives..
.. for example, the intervening social worker ideas.

Congressional Republicans NEED to wake up, and cooperate in deep concern for the CARE, Health, and Safety of the LIVES of the American People. Do you REALIZE the 'bad image' you give by the things you do and don't??
Stop being all about making your OWN selves RICH-- on the backs of the average citizens' expense.
All I see of your actions is deadly-consequences of greed ???
Gently, Firmly... thoughtfully... softly,
Is that really TRUE of you?.
Why are you not ACTING on Behalf of 'all' the people? You make-rich the folks who don't NEED it.
.. You've lost a piece of your humanity,
your soul.

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I don't own a gun,
and I don't want to feel that I HAVE to....
they scare me. I could never 'use' it in an emergency.
Leaves me vulnerable??? in this developing cowboy society.

Folks have been working to defund everything--
THAT has put my own life, as a Senior, at risk.

* There was a killing in my (small) neighbor .. at a distance of around 2 baseball throws from my front door.
.. Police swarmed. Blocked the entrances.
We had TV news camera trucks here (but maintenance man chased them off the property saying this was private land).

* Within the same 24 hours,
a man stood in front of a young teen's window, disrobed himself, and started jerking off.
The mother saw him, and called police.
This happened in an area in back of my building.
That was TRAUMATIC.
The woman and her daughter are planning to move away.

I WANT the presence of POLICE.

* Another thing???
People seem to be NOT obeying stop signs now?
WTH.. Treating safety traffic signals as a "suggestion" and not a rule or command for the Good of All?

* We are IN a pandemic.
Health officials asked us to "cooperate together" with simple-things-- not hard to do or figure out, folks!!!
*wash hands, and
*wear masks, and
*keep a distance between self and other.

HAD. WE. BEEN. doing this,
acting in willing {and glad} Cooperation with authorities,
we would HAVE pretty-much gained control-over {or snuffed-out} this virus from its inception here on our land, 6 months ago.

This virus is a Social COMMUNITY problem.

IF *they* would had followed simple instructions by medical science leaders, we would have been on the same par as Europe right now, who are starting to open their Economy.

Now, because of NON-COOPERATORS,
we are needing to start from scratch...

COVID doesn't give a flip--
you get it, you can DIE.
If not NOW, then later while it is IN your body, whether you show symptoms or not, it can bite you in another creative way.

We "function" as a part of a Whole in Society.
Every effort is NEEDED, and counts.

There was a saying years ago ..
If you can't 'kick your OWN butt',
then someone else will kick it FOR you --
and you might not like it.

Masks...
There's no need for outside authority to ACT,
if you act with your own INSIDE authority to DO the Right thing?


United, we STAND.
Divided???, then we FALL as a Nation!!!!

Do you LOVE your Country???
Then DO your diligence.

Police are an important people--
to protect us from those who would do us harm.

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posted July 01, 2020 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Defund isn't about taking away all of their money. JFC.

Democrats, empowering criminals...as usual.
That should give democrats a lock on the criminal vote.

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posted July 01, 2020 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
repubs have also voiced support for BLM, Jwhop

Also, remind me again how many criminals Trump released with his "criminal justice reform legislation?

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posted July 01, 2020 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Trump released people who were imprisoned for decades on drug possession charges due to Biden's crime bill.

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shura
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posted July 01, 2020 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like this guy
http://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/09/us/first-step-act-release-alleged-murder/index.html

For police in Providence, Francisco was a known quantity. Nicknamed the "crown prince" of the Latin Kings gang by prosecutors -- and "Joey Crack" on the street, according to the Rhode Island US attorney's office -- Francisco had a reputation for violence.

At age 19 he was convicted of assault with intent to murder. And by 2004, he'd become the top target in a multi-agency drug trafficking investigation codenamed Operation Royal Flush.

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posted July 01, 2020 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
repubs have also voiced support for BLM, Jwhop

Also, remind me again how many criminals Trump released with his "criminal justice reform legislation?


I'm ready to throw those alleged republicans under the moving train.

Randall got it right as to whom President Trump got released. A 2nd chance to lead a productive life is a good thing. The rest is up to them.

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posted July 01, 2020 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He released a violent gang member.

It was bullshiiit legislation designed by his progressive son in law to appeal to the left wing and poc.

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posted July 01, 2020 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
He released a violent gang member.

It was bullshiiit legislation designed by his progressive son in law to appeal to the left wing and poc.


What violent criminal gang member was released under the 1st step act?

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posted July 01, 2020 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Defund the police is all well and good until people feel threatened. Case in point: Seattle Major Durkan.

She aided and abetted the CHAZ/CHOP, even romanticizing what they were doing. Summer of love? Block party?

Even after the violence and shooting, she was still dragging her feet on shutting down CHAZ/CHOP. She literally bent over backward in a vain effort to appease the woke folks of Seattle, not understanding that she can never do enough to please them.

She did a 360 only when last Sunday, the firebrand socialist city council member Kshama Sawant led a rowdy woke mob of activists to protest in front of Durkan's house, whose address was supposed to remain private and secret. Ooooh, boy was Durkan upset!! She was scared and outraged and feels Sawant is endangering HER life. Boy, oh the irony...

Since then she has been on a campaign to oust Sawant, and today, she ordered the police to shut.down.CHAZ/CHOP.

Morale of the story: Someone tweeted that Major Durkan campaign slogan should be, MY LIFE MATTER!

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posted July 02, 2020 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess since this is such a highly charged issue, the irony of organizers to defund the police wanting police protection for themselves got lost for the most part.

It's a further irony because we've seen ample evidence it's the public needing police protection from these so-called peaceful protestors.

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posted July 02, 2020 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
repubs have also voiced support for BLM, Jwhop


If true, it's odd. Donations to BLM go through Act Blue, which disburses the money to Democrats. So indirectly, these Republicans, whoever they are, are supporting Democrats? Doesn't make sense.

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