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teasel
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posted July 08, 2020 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/08/trump-reopen-schools-353245

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teasel
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posted July 08, 2020 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've just seen this:

Kayleigh McEnany: When Trump said he wanted to ‘cut off’ school funding he meant he wants to increase it
http://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/kayleigh-mcenany-when-trump-said-he-wanted-to-cut-off-school-funding-he-meant-he-wants-to-increase-it/

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posted July 08, 2020 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you incapable of getting anything right?

President Trump is talking about defunding schools..IF THEY DON'T REOPEN.

And exactly why should the federal government send federal taxpayer dollars to schools that ARE CLOSED?

Donald Trump: We ‘May Cut Off Funding’ if Schools Do Not Reopen
http://www.breitbart.com/education/2020/07/08/trump-we-may-cut-off-funding-schools-do-not-reopen/

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posted July 08, 2020 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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"You need to wear a mask. Yes - YOU. You need to stay home unless it’s really important. If you can’t do any of those things, but want me to go back to school in August with a smile on my face, you’re asking me to make far bigger sacrifices than the ones you’ve been willing to make so far."

(I did not write this. I stole it from a smart teacher).
PLEASE READ.

"I get it. I do. You need schools to open because...holy crap you’re not getting anything done, your kids need to see other kids, you have a job to do, and you just plain need a break. I get it. I do.

I’ve seen the research. Kids are, as much as we can determine barely six months into a pandemic, less likely to get it. They’re less likely to suffer from a severe form of the disease, possibly less likely to transmit it. The calls for opening schools with this data make total sense. Are you going to send your kids into a building with no adults? No. So when you’re out there demanding that schools open and all of your arguments are about you, about what you need, about what your kids need, but NEVER ONCE mention the dangers to the staff and faculty who will necessarily need to be in those schools, you can see where I’m a little concerned.

I’ve accepted that I ask my friends two or three times a year to donate food to our “snack closet” because ending poverty, let alone childhood poverty and all the many things that encompasses it, seems to be beyond us. I’ve accepted that I spend hundreds of dollars of my own money every year to buy things my students need because adequately funding schools seems to be beyond us. I’ve accepted that there might come a time I have to lock my students in the closet in my classroom - and let me tell you how blessed I feel that I have a closet big enough to fit all of my kids - because reasonable gun control seems to be beyond us.

Now you’re asking us to accept going back into classrooms in the middle of a pandemic. Classrooms that are located in buildings that have been neglected for decades (please see: adequate funding), that in some cases have no windows that open, where our support people - occupational therapists, speech therapists are working in closets (please see: adequate funding), and buildings that have sketchy HVAC on a good day.

You’ll forgive us if we’re not quite onboard with this idea yet. You see, if we want hand sanitizer in our classrooms, we have to ask parents to donate it. If we want Lysol wipes for our classrooms, we have to ask our parents to donate it. If we want tissues for snotty noses, we have to ask our parents to donate it. They do. Every year they do and many of them donate these things despite their precarious financial situations. I have no doubt that those parents would make these donations again - despite their much more precarious financial situation - if those things were available for purchase.

Since, for the entire two decades I’ve been teaching, we’ve been asking parents to donate basic school supplies because we can’t or won’t adequately fund education, you might see where we’re a little hesitant to go back into those classrooms without masks, without face shields, because masks don’t work with the littlest kids (though face shields really aren’t nearly as effective as masks, but…), without any promise of reliable, regular testing with a quick turnaround of results, without any plan for what happens when someone gets sick, without any plan for what staff and faculty do when someone in their family is sick, without any plan on how we help parents who need the childcare, so they’re forced to give kids Tylenol in order to get through the temperature screening so they don’t lose their job, without any promise of additional money to hire more teachers, to lease more space, to scale up what distance learning will or could look like. (Does anyone really think we’re going to make it through flu season without ending up right where we were in March?)
Do you know what schools look like once school starts? We are a snotty, sneezing, sniffly, coughing mess and that's without spike proteins invading our beings.

I’m worried for me. I have parents who are considered elderly (sorry about that, but you are). Parents I have only seen from a distance since early March, except for that super socially-distanced Father’s Day. I’m worried for teachers who are parents - what will they do with their kids whose school schedules might be wildly different than that of their parents. I’m worried for the teachers who are older (and I’m REALLY sorry I’m considered one of them). But I’m more worried about our custodial staff, bus drivers, our cafeteria workers, our instructional assistants who are far more likely to be BIPOC, people who are far less likely to have the resources needed to survive an extended illness (again, not funding what matters), whose family members are more likely to be considered an essential worker in some other field.I don’t see anyone having these conversations.

I don’t see ANY consideration for the adults in school buildings in all the articles calling for schools to open. AAP is telling schools to open, but not giving any guidance on how to do so safely for students AND staff alike. That must be nice. You have to open and good luck on figuring out how to make that work. We’re used to flying by the seat of our pants and making it work. This is a **** -poor solution most of the time and it is a completely untenable one in the middle of a pandemic, one that has been managed in the worst possible way at the federal level.

I’m worried for my kids. I know they need to be back at school. I saw how distance learning went this spring. It wasn’t pretty. I know that our kids need teachers who aren’t terrified to be at work because there’s nothing in place that would suggest society values teachers as more than cheap childcare, despite the fact that this spring and summer should have sounded that message loud and clear. I know our kids need to be around each other.

I’m worried that people are going to start calling for “normal” school. Nothing about this is normal. Even if kids are in school full time, nothing about this is going to be normal. We’re going to be facing kids who are dealing with layer upon layer of trauma, we need to make time and space for that, so stop telling me kids are behind. They’re not any further behind than anyone else. They’re behind some arbitrary lines we drew in the sand so long ago we’re not sure we remember why we drew them. We need to meet our kids where they are. I don't want to hear one word about testing, unless it involves a nasal or throat swab. Not. One. Word.

The worst part about this is the completely cavalier attitude I see from far too many about doing what needs to be done if you have even half a prayer of opening schools this fall. Wear a mask. Stay home. No, you don’t need to eat in that restaurant. No, you don’t need to go visit your parents or friends 5 states away. No, you don’t need to go hang out with your friends because you’ll really stay 6 feet away - let me assure you that the pictures you’ve posted show me that is almost never true. Yes. You need to wear a mask. Yes. You need to stay home unless it’s really important. If you can’t do any of those things, but want me to go back to school in August with a smile on my face, you’re asking me to make far bigger sacrifices than the ones you’ve been willing to make so far."


This is one thing that's come up when people think that "defund the police" means taking every bit of money from them, and abolishing them entirely. Look at all of the things that teachers have to buy themselves, instead of them being provided for every child. My dad still can't find hand wipes, and he got scammed out of something like $50, a few months ago, when he thought he'd found some on Ebay. If he can't find them, how are teachers supposed to find them for themselves and the kids they're in charge of?

Fingers crossed for no panic attacks waking me up tonight. I feel fine when I'm awake.

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posted July 09, 2020 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only reason schools are closed is to prevent parents from returning fully to work for the purpose of...you guessed it...to hurt President Trump’s re-election chances. Children have fewer receptors and seldom are affected by the virus (only 29 have died). They seldom pass the virus to others. And the countries that have opened schools have experienced no adverse affects from doing so. The science is in. Open the schools!

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posted July 09, 2020 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
Are you incapable of getting anything right?

President Trump is talking about defunding schools..[b]IF THEY DON'T REOPEN.

And exactly why should the federal government send federal taxpayer dollars to schools that ARE CLOSED?

Donald Trump: We ‘May Cut Off Funding’ if Schools Do Not Reopen
http://www.breitbart.com/education/2020/07/08/trump-we-may-cut-off-funding-sc hools-do-not-reopen/ [/B]


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posted July 11, 2020 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wha''?? afraid to DIE for the Economy?????
How unTrumpyAmerican can you BE...?

Why worry about death.

Your orphaned children can be easily corralled and housed in those group-buildings, inside room cages, if the family-- the parents and grandparents, happen to die or become too crippled. Children in cages can be given pills to blunt their grief, and control behavior, making them even more malleable to govt control.

If the teachers die??…
Who needs them, right?

Those newly-orphaned kids will more-easily bent to the ways of a dictatorship.

Goal is to 'dumb down America' even further?
Lack of education by defunding schools and education programs, even more.

It's a tool for enabling the easy-control and "emotional" take-over, of the hive mentality--
. . .
The undisciplined naive collective-mind of an uneducated population--
which is simultaneously being trained to become ultra-selfish to its core--
is a sneaky and devious way to establish outside dominance.

Who's your daddy?? ..
The Earth is FLAT

(music) Doin' What Comes Naturally
(Annie Git Your Gun!)
[3:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og_hAsXXDIA

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posted July 11, 2020 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Goal is to 'dumb down America' even further?
Lack of education by defunding schools and education programs, even more."

When schools are open, they're already dumbing down students. Students aren't being taught math, English, science and history, they're being indoctrinated to take their place in a little Marxist, Communist Socialist gulag.

Your argument that withholding funds from schools which won't open in the fall is dumbing down students won't fly. How is withholding federal funding for schools which choose to remain closed...dumbing down students?

Sending children to public schools in America is child abuse and should be punished.

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posted July 11, 2020 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, Betsy Devos said "only" .02% of kids are likely to die when they go back to school.
😐
That's 14,740 children.
✏️Welcome 📚 back! 📝


"Most children probably won't die" is what I read the other day. Good to know that the pro-life lot really loves those children.

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posted July 11, 2020 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When given a lot of bad options, you choose the least bad option, and the least bad option is to send the kids back to school.

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posted July 11, 2020 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://abcnews.go.com/US/30-year-man-dies-attending-covid-party-thinking/story?id=71731414

"I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it's not."

Those were the final words of a 30-year-old patient who died at Methodist Hospital in San Antonio, Texas, this week after attending a so-called "COVID party," according to the hospital's chief medical officer.

The School Kids will all catch the Virus, even if one has it, through the AC DUCT Systems. All Parents will get it.
3-4% will die, like that poor 30 year old who thought it was just like the flu and nothing will happen to the youth.

Go for Online Coaching for the next 12 months, it is worth it.

Don't become another Brazil.

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posted July 11, 2020 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealsaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is true...it is not just about education. I don't know what the right answer to opening schools is. And I am thankful I don't have any children during this time, but feel for all of them.

I worry about my younger sister, who has a severe learning disability. She is already behind in her education and is not in an environment where home learning is efficient. I also worry for children who silently suffer daily just being home. I worry too about how some families will suffer from one parent having to be out of work, resulting in less money to provide for their family. Those same parents, who may very well be wonderful parents, but not educational teachers, but suddenly thrown into the role. And the poor teachers themselves. It's a lot to deal with for everyone involved.

The truth is, it would be better for the economy if schools opened, even on some type of limited basis, whatever that looks like. Trump is looking at this big picture. @jwhop is right as well. Why should the government be shelling out money to schools that are not opening? From the article he posted:
{“The importance of in-person learning is well-documented, and there is already evidence of the negative impacts on children because of school closures in the spring of 2020,” the AAP said in its pitch for an in-person 2020-2021 academic year, contending that the virus behaves “differently in children and adolescents than other common respiratory viruses, such as influenza, on which much of the current guidance regarding school closures is based”:}

We cannot keep schools closed indefinitely. We just can't, it is too detrimental. We should be, however, seeing plans from our local government & school boards. They need to get their sh!* together and create a plan that will keep people healthy but not impede on their education.

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posted July 12, 2020 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A simple solution would be to have Classes Twice a week, outdoors, to prevent Internal Circulation of the Virus.
Twice a week means 1/3rd students attend, and even this should be optional. Social Distancing becomes automatic.

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posted July 12, 2020 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://teacherpoetmusicianglenbrown.blogspot.com/2020/07/so-if-you-didnt-catch-yesterdays.html?m=1&fbclid=IwAR0FTsfumEghUgrWLGR7tMHtYwau86R1N_1rxA8qJ1LHbQeaaowt1kaFXUU

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