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teasel
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posted July 23, 2020 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-53507579/qanon-coronavirus-and-the-conspiracy-cult

A bizarre conspiracy theory has surged in popularity in the US since the pandemic, according to exclusive research seen by the BBC.

QAnon and its believers say that Donald Trump is here to save the world from an evil cabal of paedophiles and it’s had a surprising level of interest around the world from Brazil to Germany, the UK and Indonesia.

And this week Twitter announced it would delete 7,000 QAnon-related accounts, saying it hoped the action would help to prevent "offline harm".

BBC Population Correspondent Stephanie Hegarty has spoken to QAnon followers and their families to find out why this cultish conspiracy has gained so much traction.

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posted July 23, 2020 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a friend who was pushing this person's stuff on her FB page. She's been quiet about the purge of accounts on twitter.

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posted July 23, 2020 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-53507579/qanon-coronavirus-and-the-conspiracy-cult

A bizarre conspiracy theory has surged in popularity in the US since the pandemic, according to exclusive research seen by the BBC.

QAnon and its believers say that Donald Trump is here to save the world from an evil cabal of paedophiles and it’s had a surprising level of interest around the world from Brazil to Germany, the UK and Indonesia.

And this week Twitter announced it would delete 7,000 QAnon-related accounts, saying it hoped the action would help to prevent "offline harm".

BBC Population Correspondent Stephanie Hegarty has spoken to QAnon followers and their families to find out why this cultish conspiracy has gained so much traction.


I am baffled about why trumpies can't see the realty of Donald drumpf.

I mean trump has been to Epstein's lolita island many times and is apparently good friends with Ghislaine maxwell.

He the last person to prosecute pedophiles.

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posted July 23, 2020 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I mean trump has been to Epstein's lolita island many times and is apparently good friends with Ghislaine maxwell."

Prove it with credible sources...and I don't mean Veterans Today!

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posted July 24, 2020 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:

I mean trump has been to Epstein's lolita island many times...

False.

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In 1997, now-President Trump flew on a plane belonging to jet-setting financier Jeffrey Epstein, joining the recently accused child sex trafficker on a trip from Palm Beach, Florida, to Newark, New Jersey, court documents unsealed Friday revealed.

The new flight manifests [covering the period of November, 1995 through August, 2013] show Trump joining Epstein, Epstein’s brother Mark, Ghislaine Maxwell, and others on the flight from Palm Beach International Airport to Newark Liberty International Airport on Jan. 5, 1997, supporting Mark Epstein's previous recollection of Trump flying on Epstein’s jet.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/new-epstein-flight-logs-show-trump-flew-on-his-plane-in-1997

So, the flight logs show that President Trump flew one time in 1997 from Florida to New Jersey, not Epstein Island.

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He the last person to prosecute pedophiles.

Actually, he helped a defense attorney for one of Epstein's accusers. He also banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago for making sexual advances to a young girl who worked at the club.

Trump Was 'Only One' To Help Prosecutor In 2009 Epstein Case

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Following a 2018 financial settlement between Florida attorney Bradley Edwards - who represented one of Epstein's accusers, only to be later sued by Epstein, Edwards claimed that Donald Trump was the 'only person' who provided assistance when Edwards served subpoenas and notices to high-profile individuals connected to Epstein.

Edwards: The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-07/trump-was-only-one-help-prosecutor-2009-epstein-case

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/508680-mcenany-offers-explanation-of-trumps-well-wishes-for-epstein

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posted July 24, 2020 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dhyana

Your rebuttal is a example of why trumpies idolize the buffoon.
I just checked in but don't have the time right now to go into this.will respond later fully.

But for now ,trump was the only candidate in US history that ran for president while he had pending trial for raping a 13 year old child.just before the election Jane dies's attorney filed with the court to w
withdraw charges because his client told him she had been approached and threatened with death if she did not drop the case.
And you think trump would push to convict a pedophile ring???????
Again I will get back shorty if my phones isn't hacked

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posted July 24, 2020 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"I mean trump has been to Epstein's lolita island many times and is apparently good friends with Ghislaine maxwell."

Prove it with credible sources...and I don't mean Veterans Today!


Well it seems my post ate being deleted as this a bread is not at the top if the column but there is not new post.
Just to let you know I have joined your opinion about this site albeit for different reasons I am sure.I will explain myself if and when my responses are not deleted

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posted July 24, 2020 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Says Donald Trump got “exposed for raping a 13-year-old" in retaliation for law enforcement officers “killing black people.”


http://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/03/facebook-posts/no-proof-donald-trump-raped-13-year-old-girl-1994/

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posted July 24, 2020 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
Hi Dhyana

Your rebuttal is a example of why trumpies idolize the buffoon.


Nice deflection, making this about Trump and his supporters, rather than the evidence refuting the media's false allegation.

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posted July 24, 2020 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
[b]Says Donald Trump got “exposed for raping a 13-year-old" in retaliation for law enforcement officers “killing black people.”


http://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/03/facebook-po sts/no-proof-donald-trump-raped-13-year-old-girl-1994/ [/B]



Sorry dude this was a legal case brought to court. Oh by the ways you such do w fact check on piracy.com...the owner has been found to have a few lies in his background.

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posted July 24, 2020 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane Doe vs. Donald Trump, et al.

Okay, Todd, here's what I dug up about your 13 year old rape allegation.

The Plaintiff in the lawsuit was anonymous, only known publicly as “Jane Doe." Jane Doe was scheduled to appear at a news conference at which time she would reveal her identity. When the time came for the press conference, the Plaintiff changed her mind and did not appear claiming she was afraid after receiving threats.

The cancellation of the press conference raised questions about the case, which had been going on for several months. The case was viewed with skepticism because virtually everyone involved was anonymous. Also, the case had been thrown out of court several times.

A woman in the case, also anonymous, referred to as “Tiffany Doe” who allegedly introduced Jane Doe to Epstein, gave a statement in the lawsuit saying she was a personal witness to the rapes.

Another anonymous woman identified in the lawsuit as "Joan Doe,” said she was a former classmate of Jane Doe, and that Jane Doe disclosed the rape to her.

The lawsuit was originally filed in April of 2016, with Jane Doe going by the pseudonym Katie Johnson. It was thrown out of court for failing to make her case for a civil rights claim. It was then refiled in New York, and again dismissed, because the address listed for the Plaintiff was a foreclosed home. The lawsuit was again filed in June, and refiled in September.

In a previous version of the lawsuit, Jane Doe claimed Trump had given her money for an abortion. This claim was subsequently removed.

In the end, Jane Doe dropped her lawsuit against Donald Trump. There was no explanation given, nor a statement issued either by Jane Doe or her attorney.

Some legal experts at the time questioned whether Jane Doe had enough evidence to successfully plead her case.

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Other than an affidavit by another unidentified woman who claims to have witnessed the encounters, there appears to be no other evidence concerning what happened,” Rachel Stockman wrote on LawNewz back in June, although this was before the second anonymous witness became involved in the case. “This woman does not indicate that she ever went to police. In addition, no other evidence like DNA or taped conversations has surfaced.”

In other words, the Plaintiff didn't go to the police, no rape kit was performed, so there was no DNA evidence, which would have provided the necessary proof of her allegations.

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Many journalists have questioned the veracity of Jane Doe’s claims, particularly due to her anonymity. A piece in Jezebel recounts how the allegations were floated to journalists by anti-Trump individuals for almost a year, but requests for further information and requests to interview Jane Doe were denied.Although you might wonder why a major presidential candidate being accused of raping a 13-year-old child isn’t bigger news, it’s all of these questions that have kept it from becoming a larger story.

There are so many red flags here that become readily apparent upon any objective examination of the facts.

https://heavy.com/news/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-sue-rape-13-year-old-girl-jeffrey-epstein-jane-doe-katie-johnson-press-conference-lisa-bloom/

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posted July 24, 2020 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dhyana:
Nice deflection, making this about Trump and his supporters, rather than the evidence refuting the media's false allegation.



Okie dokie..keeping mind that trump has pardoned 3 of the cronies for lying for him in court,you are alleging trump in 2009 meant with the prosecutor of the case and feely gave testimony...okay let's look at the results of trumps help for the prosecutions.

nbcnews.com Ex-Florida police chief :Epstein case "the worst failure of the cut
criminal justice system in modern times "

You can read the rest

Abcnews.go.com victims : feds his sweetheart deal for sex offender with deep political ties

Nbcnews.com
Judge rosecutors broke the law in deal with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein


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posted July 24, 2020 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"nbcnews.com Ex-Florida police chief :Epstein case "the worst failure of the cut
criminal justice system in modern times "

You can read the rest

Abcnews.go.com victims : feds his sweetheart deal for sex offender with deep political ties

Nbcnews.com
Judge rosecutors broke the law in deal with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein"

None of this has anything to do with President Trump.


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posted July 24, 2020 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dhyana:
[b] Nice deflection, making this about Trump and his supporters, rather than the evidence refuting the media's false allegation.



Okie dokie..keeping mind that trump has pardoned 3 of the cronies for lying for him in court,you are alleging trump in 2009 meant with the prosecutor of the case and feely gave testimony...okay let's look at the results of trumps help for the prosecutions.

nbcnews.com Ex-Florida police chief :Epstein case "the worst failure of the
criminal justice system in modern times "

You can read the rest

Abcnews.go.com victims : feds his sweetheart deal for sex offender with deep political ties

Nbcnews.com
Judge rosecutors broke the law in deal with sex offender Jeffrey Epstein

[/B][/QUOTE]

Okay let's not look at the red flags ,let's look at the facts

Epstein was brought up on charges of sex trafficking minor women and transporting them over state lines.these charges can bring a 10 year sentence. In addition 36 known victims were identified. .
Police in palm beach said they had probable cause for one count of lascivious behavior molestation and 4 counts of unlawful sexual activity with a minor .
Instead palm beach county state attorney referred the case to a grand jury which led to one indictment of solicition for prostitution.

But Epstein secured a sweetheart deal to plea guilty to the prosititution charges in exchange for the government not persecuting him on the other charges.
Police concerned that prosecutors were undermining their work referred the case to the FBI.
Lead by Alexander Acosta(and coincides of coincdence ,is now trumps labor secretary)who had regulary given 10 sentences for sex trafficing,worked up a 56 charge indictment against Epstein. But in Oct 2997 Acosta met with Epstein's lawyers for breakfast and struck a deal that concealed the full accusatuobs against epstein allowing him to avoid a lengthy prison stay.Epstein was sentenced to 18 months in the county jail not state or federal prison.Epstein could leave the facility during the day but returned to sleep there.during the recent trial it was a led d that Epstein continued with his activities during thus time.he only served 13 months and was released.
In addition Acosta broke federal law by not notifying the victims of the plea deal as required by law.some of the victims filed suit against the federal government and these
cases are on going.

This what I mean about my bafflement of trumpies dhyana just tried to make trump a up standing citizen when he was part and parcel of " the worst failure of the criminal justice system in modern times".
Par for the course for trump.

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posted July 24, 2020 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Epstein was brought up on charges of sex trafficking minor women and transporting them over state lines.these charges can bring a 10 year sentence. In addition 36 known victims were identified. .
Police in palm beach said they had probable cause for one count of lascivious behavior molestation and 4 counts of unlawful sexual activity with a minor .
Instead palm beach county state attorney referred the case to a grand jury which led to one indictment of solicition for prostitution.

But Epstein secured a sweetheart deal to plea guilty to the prosititution charges in exchange for the government not persecuting him on the other charges.
Police concerned that prosecutors were undermining their work referred the case to the FBI.
Lead by Alexander Acosta(and coincides of coincdence ,is now trumps labor secretary)who had regulary given 10 sentences for sex trafficing,worked up a 56 charge indictment against Epstein. But in Oct 2997 Acosta met with Epstein's lawyers for breakfast and struck a deal that concealed the full accusatuobs against epstein allowing him to avoid a lengthy prison stay.Epstein was sentenced to 18 months in the county jail not state or federal prison.Epstein could leave the facility during the day but returned to sleep there.during the recent trial it was a led d that Epstein continued with his activities during thus time.he only served 13 months and was released.
In addition Acosta broke federal law by not notifying the victims of the plea deal as required by law.some of the victims filed suit against the federal government and these
cases are on going.

This what I mean about my bafflement of trumpies dhyana just tried to make trump a up standing citizen when he was part and parcel of " the worst failure of the criminal justice system in modern times".
Par for the course for trump."

Illogical and irrational. The leftist way!

Trump had nothing whatsoever to do with any of your alleged prosecutorial misconducts....you know, unless you have the kind of credible proof you've never had before for your prior allegations.

Well, do you Todd?

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posted July 24, 2020 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
Okay let's not look at the red flags ,let's look at the facts

You've changed the subject. The subject under discussion was the lawsuit brought by "Jane Doe" against then private citizen Trump. You're bringing up the Epstein case from 2007. Different subject. The Epstein case was a miscarriage of justice.

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This what I mean about my bafflement of trumpies dhyana just tried to make trump a up standing citizen when he was part and parcel of " the worst failure of the criminal justice system in modern times".

I don't see how Trump's giving information to a Plaintiff's attorney (not a prosecutor) that benefits an Epstein victim makes him "part and parcel of the worst failure of the criminal justice system in modern times." Or, that Alex Acosta, who is corrupt, because he became President Trump's Labor Secretary, makes the President complicit or guilty by association. Acosta's corruption, as demonstrated in the Epstein case, led to his resignation as Labor Secretary.

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Your rebuttal is a example of why trumpies idolize the buffoon.

Being an upstanding citizen from what I hear doesn't inspire the kind of ardent emotions that Trump supporters feel for the man. There are many reasons why MAGA loves President Trump.

Referring to the President of the United States as a "buffoon" and his supporters as "trumpies" shows you have a fixed negative opinion of both that neither facts nor evidence, however persuasive and incontrovertible, can dislodge. btw, This isn't an issue of intelligence. Many intelligent people think as you do.

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posted July 25, 2020 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
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Epstein was brought up on charges of sex trafficking minor women and transporting them over state lines.these charges can bring a 10 year sentence. In addition 36 known victims were identified. .
Police in palm beach said they had probable cause for one count of lascivious behavior molestation and 4 counts of unlawful sexual activity with a minor .
Instead palm beach county state attorney referred the case to a grand jury which led to one indictment of solicition for prostitution.

But Epstein secured a sweetheart deal to plea guilty to the prosititution charges in exchange for the government not persecuting him on the other charges.
Police concerned that prosecutors were undermining their work referred the case to the FBI.
Lead by Alexander Acosta(and coincides of coincdence ,is now trumps labor secretary)who had regulary given 10 sentences for sex trafficing,worked up a 56 charge indictment against Epstein. But in Oct 2997 Acosta met with Epstein's lawyers for breakfast and struck a deal that concealed the full accusatuobs against epstein allowing him to avoid a lengthy prison stay.Epstein was sentenced to 18 months in the county jail not state or federal prison.Epstein could leave the facility during the day but returned to sleep there.during the recent trial it was a led d that Epstein continued with his activities during thus time.he only served 13 months and was released.
In addition Acosta broke federal law by not notifying the victims of the plea deal as required by law.some of the victims filed suit against the federal government and these
cases are on going.

This what I mean about my bafflement of trumpies dhyana just tried to make trump a up standing citizen when he was part and parcel of " the worst failure of the criminal justice system in modern times".
Par for the course for trump."

Illogical and irrational. The leftist way!

Trump had nothing whatsoever to do with any of your alleged prosecutorial misconducts....you know, unless you have the kind of credible proof you've never had before for your prior allegations.

Well, do you Todd?


I'm not talking about trump,as he has famously said he could go down fifth avenue and shoot someone and nothing would happen.
This a why trumpies think a billionaire? gives any thought to their existence.I don't consider you or dhyana trumpies be because you obviously have agendas .

But back to this issue once again trump is part of a illegal scheme. Both the lead prosecutors including Acosta have resigned once the nature of this legal scam became know.the feds were considering legal actions before the palm beach prosecutor resign.

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posted July 25, 2020 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"But back to this issue once again trump is part of a illegal scheme. Both the lead prosecutors including Acosta have resigned once the nature of this legal scam became know.the feds were considering legal actions before the palm beach prosecutor resign."

Where is your proof that Trump had anything whatsoever with the prosecutorial misconduct you allege?

Did Trump bribe prosecutors, threaten prosecutors, what did Trump do to get prosecutors to go easy on Epstein?

Time to put up or shut up on this subject. Where's your proof?

Dhyana is right. You're trying to change the subject..which is a leftist loser trait when they shoot off their mouths and can't prove their allegations.

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The Original Topic is about QAnon.
I have been following this Cult for more than 2 years now, and they have been cleverly stealing the hard work of 1990s Conspiracy researchers. Plus Benjamin Fulford's research is also stolen. Pizza Gate is a Main Theme of these Incels.

They popped out after the Las Vegas Massacre, which means they started out as a Deflection Team.

90% of their predictions are False, and as per them, Obama, Hillary, Tom Hanks etc have all been executed and what we see now are Clones or Holograms.

Their biggest conundrum was the COVID-19.
Half the Cult called it a Master Stroke to capture Blood Drinking Elite, a quarter called it a Hoax and another quarter called it a DePopulation Virus by China which Aliens working for Trumnp mellowed down.

They worship Trump like Jesus or even more.

The Tragedy is that many genuine Conspiracy Theorist's works are going to get bellittled because of these nitwits.


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posted July 26, 2020 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read something last night, from a guy who claimed to be the original Q, and said he's the one who started it, as a joke.

I saw it on facebook, but this is the link: http://pastebin.com/BsyeQe5M

It was interesting to me, because I've never spent much time on the sites mentioned. I do remember the Something Awful forums - just the name.

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posted July 26, 2020 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by todd:
I am baffled about why trumpies can't see the realty of Donald drumpf.

I mean trump has been to Epstein's lolita island many times and is apparently good friends with Ghislaine maxwell.

He the last person to prosecute pedophiles.


I know! There is always an excuse, no matter how out there it has to be. That's what freaks me out about his supporters.

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posted July 26, 2020 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by todd:
Hi Dhyana

Your rebuttal is a example of why trumpies idolize the buffoon.
I just checked in but don't have the time right now to go into this.will respond later fully.

But for now ,trump was the only candidate in US history that ran for president while he had pending trial for raping a 13 year old child.just before the election Jane dies's attorney filed with the court to w
withdraw charges because his client told him she had been approached and threatened with death if she did not drop the case.
And you think trump would push to convict a pedophile ring???????
Again I will get back shorty if my phones isn't hacked


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posted July 29, 2020 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.facebook.com/martin.winiecki/posts/10159966260736978

A long post: 6 Reasons So Many Spiritual People Have Been Fooled By QAnon

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posted September 09, 2020 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.justsecurity.org/72339/qanon-is-a-nazi-cult-rebranded/

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