posted July 25, 2020 03:27 PM            

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“They are not supposed to be coming and attacking protesters,” Obermeyer told the Guardian. “They didn’t even give any warning, there was no ‘hey you need to move’, ‘hey back up’. There was basically them walking out and assaulting a protester just to prove that they could.”

Just a few feet away, Obermeyer was aware of another man, US navy veteran Chris David, asking virtually the same question.

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David, who came dressed in a Naval Academy sweatshirt and Navy wrestling hat, told the Guardian he believes they both came out that day because of their time at the naval academy, which instills “a deep level of integrity” in graduates. But also, he said, for perhaps an even simpler reason.

“We have the ability to see what is right and what is wrong. And what we both saw was wrong and we wanted to go out there and talk to those officers.”

Obermeyer also asked the officers whether they understand what an illegal order is, referencing the fact that military officers are required by law to disobey illegal or unconstitutional orders.

“Assaulting an unarmed protester who is exercising their first amendment rights is illegal, that’s an illegal order,” he said.

That’s when teargas was fired on the two men. When that didn’t deter them, Obermeyer said an officer tried to hit him with a baton, but he caught it and quickly pushed him back. Another officer repeatedly beat David with a baton, breaking his hand in two places, an injury that will require surgery on Monday. He was also sprayed in the face with a white chemical irritant that he said “felt like flaming gasoline.”

Obermeyer recalls an officer sticking an automatic weapon in his face, while another shot him at point-blank range with an orange chemical irritant.

After serving in the marine corps for over a decade, including as an officer, Obermeyer has experienced being gassed many times. In this case, he wasn’t sure what they had used because, he said: “I’ve never felt worse than I did that night after being sprayed in the face.”

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He said it took him three days to recover.

posted July 25, 2020 04:22 PM            

Those 'peaceful protesters' were trying to burn down that court house with federal agents inside.

What are Marine Corp vets doing supporting a Communist insurrection by Antifa and BLM Communists?

posted July 25, 2020 04:50 PM            

http://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer

Schaffer reports that rioters are shining powerful lasers directly into the eyes of federal officers that has already blinded three.

Rioters are bringing young children and even infants to the courthouse.

Andy Ngo, also on the ground in Portland, is reporting that Antifa females change clothes and put on yellow shirts pretending to be mothers and acting as shields for the rioters.

Videos show rioters throwing large quantities of garbage and frozen water bottles at the LEO over the protective fence.

Videos show rioters throwing refuse over the fence as a way to dispose of it and also to start fires.

The rioters, taking advantage of the prohibition against using munitions against the press, pose as press in order to get close to the officers and carry out attacks against them.

posted July 25, 2020 05:14 PM            

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Assaulting an unarmed protester who is exercising their first amendment rights is illegal, that’s an illegal order...

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Yes, if that is actually what's happening.
But it isn't.

Rioting, arson, throwing projectiles at federal agents, shining lasers in the eyes of agents in order to blind them, officers who are lawfully protecting federal property, is not "exercising their first amendment rights."

Elijah Schaffer, who is reporting on the ground in Portland every night, says no establishment media is present. What is happening on the ground is documented in videos by Schaffer and is posted on his Twitter feed.

posted July 25, 2020 05:28 PM            

However, the description of the behavior of the federal agents at the courthouse in Portland is contrary to numerous videos telling a different story, from eye witness journalists who are on the ground in Portland every night.

posted July 25, 2020 05:31 PM            

The Insurrection Act of 1807

The Insurrection Act of 1807 gives the President the power to deploy the National Guard or the military to enforce laws in certain circumstances...

The Insurrection Act can be invoked if there’s an insurrection against state law and a state government requests federal assistance restoring order, says Daniel Hulsebosch, a professor of law at New York University School of Law who specializes in early U.S. legal history.

It can also be invoked if there’s an insurrection against federal law, Hulsebosch continues. Crucially, after the Civil War, Congress added a provision allowing the president to invoke the Act without a state’s permission if the state is failing to protect the Constitutional rights of its citizens.

Presidents have invoked the Insurrection Act dozens of times throughout U.S. history, according to a report by the Congressional Research Service. It was invoked numerous times in the middle of the 20th century to enforce desegregation and respond to riots. For example, President Lyndon Johnson invoked the Act to deploy federal troops to Detroit in response to the 1967 riot.

Use of the act dropped off after the 1960s. The last time it was used was in 1992, during the Los Angeles riots in response to the acquittal of four white police officers who had been charged with the beating of black motorist Rodney King. (Some have compared the 1992 riots to the protests against police brutality that swept the country last week.) In that instance, California’s Governor Pete Wilson requested federal assistance suppressing the riots.

But the Act has also been invoked without a state’s permission in the past. For example, President Dwight Eisenhower invoked the Act in 1957 to send the 101st Airborne Division to Little Rock, Ark., to maintain order during the integration of Central High School, against the wishes of Arkansas’ governor.

Posse Comitatus Act

University of Texas law professor Steve Vladeck said that the Posse Comitatus Act [18 U.S. Code, Section 1385]“does *not* prevent domestic use of the military for law enforcement.” Instead, “[i]t prevents such use of the military . . . without statutory authorization,” Vladeck noted. “And several statutes already authorize use of federalized guard or federal regulars for riot control.”

http://time.com/5846649/insurrection-act-1807-donald-trump/

40 U.S. Code, Section 1315

40 U.S.Code § 1315. Law enforcement authority of Secretary of Homeland Security for protection of public property

(a) In General.—
To the extent provided for by transfers made pursuant to the Homeland Security Act of 2002, the Secretary of Homeland Security (in this section referred to as the “Secretary”) shall protect the buildings, grounds, and property that are owned, occupied, or secured by the Federal Government (including any agency, instrumentality, or wholly owned or mixed-ownership corporation thereof) and the persons on the property.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/40/1315

posted July 25, 2020 05:49 PM            

The city has become a nightmare

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For the 57th straight night, Antifa rioters wreaked havoc in Rip City, and they have markedly increased their activity and violent behavior since the DHS began sending in law enforcement to attempt to help the city quell the unrest.

Members of the media have tried to convince the public that the rioters are actually peaceful. CNN's Brian Stelter claimed Monday that "right-wing media plays up Portland protest 'violence'" — despite the fact that that very weekend the overwhelmed Portland Police declared a riot.

U.S. Rep. Earl Blumenauer, a Democrat who represents the Portland area, said that the city "is not out of control" but was dealing with "some people who have strong feelings."

But the evidence on the ground tells a different story, a story of a city that is severely out of control: Several people have been arrested on assault, arson, and property damage charges; young children are being led by adults to chant "F*** the police!"; the protesters have issued a list of demands that apparently must be met if the city wants them to stop their antics; rioters have been shooting lasers in the eyes of law enforcement, and now at least three officers may be permanently blind; and criminals have tried to break into and burn a Portland courthouse.

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posted July 25, 2020 09:28 PM            

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Antifa militant arrested for stabbing black Trump supporter in Portland, previously indicted for child porn

…Seattle arsonists set a construction site on fire in solidarity with Portland rioters during protest

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"Peaceful protesters" exercising their First Amendment rights.

http://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer

posted July 25, 2020 11:54 PM            

"I emphasize ONE BLOCK b/c the protest zone is tiny. The city is not UNDER SIEGE or BURNING as many (who aren’t even here) claim. The courthouse being “protected” by Feds is a $129mm concrete/marble bldg that is essentially a fortress. Fireworks aren’t going to burn it down."

This is what a friend of mine said - she actually said it was limited to three blocks, that the rest of Portland is business as usual. She lives there, she knows what's happening.

You guys don't believe veterans who were there?

Here's another one: http://twitter.com/RedTRaccoon/status/1287224116609781760

posted July 26, 2020 01:02 AM            

You can continue to spin this story with the rest of your comrades, and continue redefining the terms "peaceful protesters" to suit your fake victim narrative.

The rest of us are not stupid, and have eyes to see and brains that connect dots.

You seem consumed with hatred and wishing for destruction and mayhem, all under the guise of black lives. You know what is going to happen? It is only a matter of time before other civilian factions who do not agree with your "peaceful protesters" tactics come and also form their walls of whatever, and then you are going to have a real civil war in Portland.

posted July 26, 2020 10:09 AM            

The libertarian stance on this would be: leftists advocated for bigger government and are getting the same government they advocated for, screw them both, let them eat each other. Libertarians are to the right of republicans. They also believe that violating the right of an enemy negates the duty of said enemy to defend them. Duty of reciprocity. The left has been trashing rights for a long time: anti-capitalist, anti-gun, anti-property rights, anti-free speech, pro-tax, pro-regulation. They made their bed, and will lie in it on their own.

Incidentally, this is why the Libertarian Party is a joke. Too many call themselves libertarian, when they’re not, and they can never coalesce or put forth a good candidate. This is also why JoJo made 95% of libertarians angry and tanked her chance in November when she violated the NAP to promote anti-racism. It’s a messy party that can’t even get a leader, because they value individualism so much. It’s pretty funny and ironic, better as an ideology than a platform.

posted July 26, 2020 03:43 PM            

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Teasel, this is no longer about black lives matter. The protesters' obsession with the Federal courthouse is quite telling of what this is really all about.

You can continue to spin this story with the rest of your comrades, and continue redefining the terms "peaceful protesters" to suit your fake victim narrative.

The rest of us are not stupid, and have eyes to see and brains that connect dots.

You seem consumed with hatred and wishing for destruction and mayhem, all under the guise of black lives. You know what is going to happen? It is only a matter of time before other civilian factions who do not agree with your "peaceful protesters" tactics come and also form their walls of whatever, and then you are going to have a real civil war in Portland.

All this because y'all are obsessed with a federal building. If this was about Black lives matter, y'all be taking your protests somewhere else that does not involve vandalizing federal property. Is that so hard to do?

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The situation in Portland is escalating and is extremely volatile. A portion of the fence surrounding the courthouse has been taken down by the rioters. The feds have responded. It looks like we've reached the point of civil war and it's going to escalate even further in the next two weeks. A reporter on the ground is saying it's a war zone.

posted July 26, 2020 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Dhyana:
The situation in Portland is escalating and is extremely volatile. A portion of the fence surrounding the courthouse has been taken down by the rioters. The feds have responded. It looks like we've reached the point of civil war and it's going to escalate even further in the next two weeks. A reporter on the ground is saying it's a war zone.

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Yep! And the rioters are going to call on the Wall of Moms and Wall of Vets, and soon to be Wall of Dads and whatever other good sounding PR wall they can think of to hide behind to be there for "support" while they are continuing to instigate.

And then predictably when these wallers get tear gased or flashbanged, they will repost ad nauseuam how the "paratroopers" have attacked innocent and peaceful protesters.

posted July 26, 2020 05:56 PM            

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I am just waiting to see next, a Wall of Children.

And if the parents stoop that low, I hope CPS gets involved.

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posted July 26, 2020 09:10 PM            

If you show up to a place that is well known to be rioting every single night for two months, then proceed to not disperse and instead move toward officers, guess what? You’re still a rioter.

It doesn’t matter who you are, all rioters are treated equally.

If these people want to make a genuine difference, they would leave the federal buildings alone. They should go park in front of city hall instead. They’ve got the mayor’s attention already. Better yet, they should just stop being complicit meat shields for the miscreants.

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Not only are some rioters pretending to be press, some also pretend to be moms, dads, patriots & more. It’s propaganda for media who then describe them as such without bothering to verify if the claims are even true. All it takes to join one of these blocs is a colored t-shirt.

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posted July 27, 2020 12:32 AM            

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"DHS paramilitary"

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This characterization of federal agents doing their job protecting federal property and themselves from armed Antifa terrorists and rioters is a dead giveaway of the slanted mindset of the interviewer.

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I haven’t stood or marched in a formation in 22 years but tonight, I stood shoulder to shoulder with veterans from every service, of varying ages, and backgrounds. One was a Navy Captain who taught at the War College. One was a young Marine Captain who was in Afghanistan six months ago. There was an Army Infantry Major who wore her dress blues jacket. An ex Coast Guard skipper stood to my left. There were close to 75 of us and we formed a platoon sized group in column of threes. My muscle memory snapped to when I heard, “Detail, attenSHUN!!” By that time, right face and forward harch were already cued in my mind and my chest stuck out when we began to march.

When we entered the protest area, cheers erupted, and they made space for us up front, against the fence. When we were called to halt, and then left face, I was staring directly at the door they said the federal agents had been coming through previously when they’ve decided to disperse the crowds. My brothers and sisters and I stood silently at the position of parade rest for 90 minutes.

I had plenty of time to hear the chants, see the protestors, read their signs, see their eyes, hear their words. Union workers, moms, teachers, dads, hospital workers, veterans, press, young, old, every color under the sun and every walk of life were represented in solidarity. Their voices were loud and their message was clear.

I love that I got to be there and participate, even if it was silently. We were not there to speak for anyone. Only to make sure those who needed to be heard were allowed to speak. I love that I got to see firsthand what was going on in this city I’ve adopted as home. And I’m proud to have been part of it, even when the tear gas and explosions began.

They estimated 5000 people in attendance tonight and I’m proud to count myself as one of them. And I’ll be proud to do it again.

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