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jwhop
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posted August 03, 2020 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rumblings are beginning in democrat circles to cancel the normal Presidential Debates.

Can't blame them too much, they're desperate to keep Biden off the same stage with President Trump. If Biden's not up to the job, democrats shouldn't have nominated Biden.

New York Times Op-ed: ‘Let’s Scrap the Presidential Debates’
Joel B. Pollak
3 Aug 2020

The New York Times published an op-ed Monday morning titled “Let’s Scrap the Presidential Debates,” arguing that they play too great a role in helping voters choose the president.

Journalist Elizabeth Drew assures readers that she is not worried that Biden will lose the debates. (Right! Check!).....

http://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/08/03/new-york-times-op -ed-lets-scrap-the-presidential-debates/

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posted August 03, 2020 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Clinton Aide Advises Joe Biden: Whatever You Do, Don't Debate Trump
Joel B. Pollak
2 Aug 2020

Joe Lockhart, a former press secretary for President Bill Clinton, is publicly advising former Vice President Joe Biden not to debate President Donald Trump.

Lockhart published an op-ed last week at CNN.com warning Biden that he should not debate Trump because the latter is prone to statement that fail the fact-checking test (original emphasis): Right! Check! That's the real reason! ......

http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/02/clinton-aide-advises-joe-biden-whatever-you-do-dont-debate-trump/

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posted August 03, 2020 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Democrats Urging Biden Not to Debate Trump
Curt
Aug, 2nd, 2020

Democrats around the country have begun to pressure the Biden campaign to call off all debates with Donald Trump due to the coronavirus pandemic, they say.

In truth, the reason they don't want Biden to debate Trump is that they don't think Trump will play by their rules. The president would take over the debate and make it about what he wants, not what Biden wants.

Democrats are also worried about Biden's mental stamina and his ability to remain engaged for an hour and a half during a debate....

...Democratic strategists and supporters of Vice President Joe Biden are urging him not to debate President Donald Trump in the lead-up to Election Day, citing Trump's publicity stunts and disregard for the rules in 2016....

...Biden shouldn't feel obligated to throw Trump a lifeline by granting him any debates at all. This is not a normal presidential election and Trump is not a legitimate candidate, Petkanas tweeted last week, expressing his opinion that no one asked for.

...Well, it takes a special kind of idiot to say that Trump is not a legitimate candidate. He was elected legitimately, has served legitimately, and is running for re-election legitimately. Not to recognize that is to substitute an alternate, liberal universe for reality.

http://www.floppingaces.net/most-wanted/democrats-urging-biden-not-to-debate-trump/

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posted August 03, 2020 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do they really think they are going to have an election taking place without presidential debates?

They may not lose the democrats over this, but they will lose the independents because it will be plain obvious why they don't want a debate. I hope the republicans keep pushing for a debate and take them to task if they continue to resist.

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posted August 04, 2020 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Do they really think they are going to have an election taking place without presidential debates?

They may not lose the democrats over this, but they will lose the independents because it will be plain obvious why they don't want a debate. I hope the republicans keep pushing for a debate and take them to task if they continue to resist.


I think you're right.

I also think democrats think one way out of presidential debates is for the venues hosting the debates to pull out of their agreements.

Notre Dame and University of Michigan have already done so.

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posted August 04, 2020 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nolte: Brian Stelter Is Gaslighting You About CNN’s Push for Biden to Skip Debates
John Nolte
4 Aug 2020

After far-left CNN aired a segment urging Joe Biden to skip the presidential debates, CNNLOL’s Brian Stelter falsely claimed this narrative is fueled by “right-wing media.”

Yes, the basement-rated Stelter, a left-wing anti-Trump activist and a proven liar who regularly spreads conspiracy theories, was again shining his gaslight Monday night with another deliberate attempt to deceive the public.

Responding to a tweet where Townhall’s Guy Benson asked, “This ‘Biden shouldn’t debate’ boomlet is just a media tempest, right? Right?,” Stelter responded with, “It is mostly a right-wing media tempest, fueled by hour after hour of Fox commentary (not reporting), far removed from campaign reality…”

And yet it was just a couple days ago when former Bill Clinton Press Secretary Joe Lockhart appeared on CNNLOL to urge Biden to skip the debates.

Oh, and Lockhart’s CNNLOL appearance happened just days after Lockhart published a piece urging Biden to skip the debates at — you guessed it — CNNLOL [emphasis original].

Whatever you do, don’t debate Trump. Trump has now made more than 20,000 misleading or false statements according to the Washington Post. It’s a fool’s errand to enter the ring with someone who can’t follow the rules or the truth. Biden will undoubtedly take heat from Republicans and the media for skipping the debates. But it’s worth the risk as trying to debate someone incapable of telling the truth is an impossible contest to win.

But wait. There’s more…

Over this same weekend, the far-left New York Times published an op-ed urging the cancellation of this year’s presidential debates. On top of that, whatever is left of the far-left Newsweek also published a piece about the boomlet of support for the idea of Biden skipping the debates.

A number of Democrats, including Bill Kristol, are urging that the debates be canceled.

A former senior adviser to Hillary Clinton agrees: “Biden shouldn’t feel obligated to throw Trump a lifeline by granting him any debates at all. This is not a normal presidential election and Trump is not a legitimate candidate,” Zac Petkanas tweeted last week.

And then there’s Thomas Friedman, an anti-Trump New York Times columnist, who urged Biden just last week not to debate the president unless Trump agrees to “two conditions.” Of course those conditions are ridiculous — Trump must release his tax returns and agree to “real-time fact checking” during the debate — and will never be agreed to, and therefore ensure there will be no debates.

So there’s no question Biden supporters and the media are colluding to lay the groundwork for Biden to announce a withdrawal from the debates in a way that will do the least amount of damage to his presidential campaign. So the question is, why is Brian Stelter lying about this being the product of the right-wing media?

Well, I think there are two reasons…

The first is that Stelter is a liar and sometimes liars just lie to lie, for the pure enjoyment of it, out of habit.

Secondly, I don’t think it took very long for media elites to figure out that trying to help Biden weasel out of the debates is damaging to Biden. Regardless of their absurd excuses to justify annihilating a 60-year tradition, the narrative is backfiring; it further exposes Biden as weak and timid, and now everyone regrets floating the idea. So…

They sent Tater out to lie about the source of the idea, to blame-shift, because that’s what Tater does: he lies, he serially sacrifices his integrity for The Cause. He’s more than happy to make a brazen fool of himself if it means a pat on the head from CNNLOL chief Jeff Zucker.

Stelter is the left’s stooge, their crash-test dummy.

http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/04/nolte-brian-stelter-is-gaslighting-you-about-cnns-push-for-biden-to-skip-debates/

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posted August 04, 2020 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see how that's true. It's not like Trump is an eloquent speaker, with well-formed opinions.

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posted August 04, 2020 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jill Biden appeared on The Daily Briefing with Dana Perino.

@SaraCarterDC:

While Joe Biden Dodges Interviews, His Wife Confirms on Fox: 'He'll Be There' For Debates - Sara A. Carter

http://mobile.twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1290736546958782465

Sara Carter's a good reporter. But, it seems to me Joe Biden is between a rock and a hard place. If he doesn't debate, it will cement the perception of him being weak. If he does it, it'll be a disaster.

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Dhyana
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posted August 06, 2020 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The American voters need all the legitimate information and truth they can get on the presidential candidates. Biden has been engaging in pay to play for a long time, particularly to benefit Hunter and other members of his family. He and Obama and the whole Clinton crime cabal have been doing this, lining their own pockets in their globalist deals for years. This is the corruption that President Trump was sent to Washington to get rid of. And it’s all just starting to come to light. I think we’re going to find that it’s far worse than we ever realized.

http://twitter.com/theconservador/status/1290816318023905280

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