posted August 29, 2020 12:03 PM            

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In the hours before the shooting incident,@KristanTHarris, @RichieMcGinniss, and @ElijahSchaffer all interviewed Rittenhouse, who said he was protecting a local vehicle dealership together with several other armed men. He also offers medical assistance to protesters.

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This is the video: http://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1298698799670591490

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Before the shootings

In another interview, Mr. Rittenhouse speaks with Richie McGinniss, a video editor at Daily Caller, a conservative news and opinion site.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html

posted August 29, 2020 12:06 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
The video of the teenage boy came after he shot someone, not before. They chased him, because he shot someone.

Seven shots is excessive. I saw a woman on another site, say that he was "only" shot four times. Oh, only four? That isn't bad?

I was worried about violence this Spring, all thanks to people like that kid and his mother. My mental health is fine, Belage. Things were getting to me before, but I'm used to this now. All the excuses in the world are made for the white teenager, who travelled to another State, to "protect property" and take lives. A guy walks away from police, is shot seven times, and it's fine. He had it coming. I'm used to it now.

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you're wrong though, the video i posted shows each of the people who were shot and rittenhouse very clearly

it's a compilation of videos taken that night not just a single one, and very clear videos btw

it's highly unlikely that someone who demonstrated that level of control in the other 2 shootings acted out in the manner you're speaking of and the first video (timeline wise) it's unclear if the man was even shot by rittenhouse or what the circumstances were

what is clear is that other guns were fired first (there's a video of someone with a handfun firing one off before the first man was shot) and rittenhouse was near the first guy at the time of the injury

there is no video of that first man being shot only of rittenhouse making a phone call near his body (rittenhouse did have first aid **** on him and not just a gun) and then leaving the scene and being chased afterward

when chased he only shot two people one who attacked him first and another who tried to shoot him one death and one he subdued

the likelihood of someone who handled a situation like that being a coldblooded murderer that you're trying to portray him as or shooting just to shoot is highly unlikely

he demonstrated clear control both of himself and of his weapon

you're essentially going based off a complete lack of evidence and total fabrication to claim that he did what you've said

in many of the videos it is very clear that there were guns other than his out that night and being fired and there are no videos of him shooting anyone in cold blood

pure leftist fabrication seeking to scapegoat someone in a case where the only evidence indicates self defense not homicide

edit: btw i see a lot of bias reporting that leaves out the fact that the guy who was shot in the arm pulled a ******* gun on rittenhouse in spite of it being clear in pictures and video, almost like there's a lot of ******** articles out there blurring facts and promoting a specific agenda

and the articles painting this guy attacking a kid with a gun with his skateboard as a hero are equally ridiculous btw

someone fleeing and not open firing into anything is not a threat and if you have a skateboard and someone else has a gun it's pretty ******* clear cut you're out of your league maybe don't go up and attack him and try to take his weapon

posted August 29, 2020 12:51 PM            

does shooting someone attempting to grab your weapon seem like murder to you? if you had a gun and someone tried to grab it while acting aggressor would you assume they had anything other than ill intent towards you? would you maybe shoot to prevent potential harm from coming to yourself or would you hand your gun over and hope for the best?

witness accounts and a police report are in favor of rittenhouse here

posted August 29, 2020 12:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
He might get a weapons charge, but self-defense is looking better and better.

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posted August 29, 2020 12:53 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I was worried about violence this Spring, all thanks to people like that kid and his mother. My mental health is fine, Belage. Things were getting to me before, but I'm used to this now. All the excuses in the world are made for the white teenager, who travelled to another State, to "protect property" and take lives. A guy walks away from police, is shot seven times, and it's fine. He had it coming. I'm used to it now.

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posted August 29, 2020 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
If you try to grab my gun, I can kill you. Period. End of story.

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exactly there is literally zero evidence that rittenhouse did anything other than act in self defense for all 3 accounts

the attempts to paint him as a murderer are laughable and the left is clearly running a smear campaign with zero basis in fact

posted August 29, 2020 01:20 PM            

you realize that he didn't live as far away from kenosha as the people who were shot right? his color is irrelevant here none of the people shot at the riot were black either

posted August 29, 2020 01:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
you're wrong though, the video i posted shows each of the people who were shot and rittenhouse very clearly

it's a compilation of videos taken that night not just a single one, and very clear videos btw

it's highly unlikely that someone who demonstrated that level of control in the other 2 shootings acted out in the manner you're speaking of and the first video (timeline wise) it's unclear if the man was even shot by rittenhouse or what the circumstances were

what is clear is that other guns were fired first (there's a video of someone with a handfun firing one off before the first man was shot) and rittenhouse was near the first guy at the time of the injury

there is no video of that first man being shot only of rittenhouse making a phone call near his body (rittenhouse did have first aid **** on him and not just a gun) and then leaving the scene and being chased afterward

when chased he only shot two people one who attacked him first and another who tried to shoot him one death and one he subdued

the likelihood of someone who handled a situation like that being a coldblooded murderer that you're trying to portray him as or shooting just to shoot is highly unlikely

he demonstrated clear control both of himself and of his weapon

you're essentially going based off a complete lack of evidence and total fabrication to claim that he did what you've said

in many of the videos it is very clear that there were guns other than his out that night and being fired and there are no videos of him shooting anyone in cold blood

pure leftist fabrication seeking to scapegoat someone in a case where the only evidence indicates self defense not homicide

edit: btw i see a lot of bias reporting that leaves out the fact that the guy who was shot in the arm pulled a ******* gun on rittenhouse in spite of it being clear in pictures and video, almost like there's a lot of ******** articles out there blurring facts and promoting a specific agenda

and the articles painting this guy attacking a kid with a gun with his skateboard as a hero are equally ridiculous btw

someone fleeing and not open firing into anything is not a threat and if you have a skateboard and someone else has a gun it's pretty ******* clear cut you're out of your league maybe don't go up and attack him and try to take his weapon

2 clear idiots and one questionable death is what those videos show, and the questionable death is a sex offender who's now getting painted like a good family man by leftist ******** propaganda conveniently leaving out that side of his life to push a different narrative

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Dumuzi, thank you for your post. Unfortunately, Kyle Rittenhouse is going to be subjected to this kind of slander and character assassination from people who don't have a grasp of the facts nor do they care.

Fortunately, from what I've heard, he has excellent legal representation, and Lin Wood is involved as an advisor as he's not a criminal defense attorney.

posted August 29, 2020 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
He might get a weapons charge, but self-defense is looking better and better.

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posted August 29, 2020 02:06 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I’ve also been thinking about the fact that the shooter in Kenosha, was radicalized by his mother. She armed him, drove him there, apparently, and now her child is a murderer. I don’t know if he was scared when he realized that he’d actually shot someone. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was. Still, the people trying to stop him, weren’t armed, and the police let him go. The armed people were told that the police were grateful for their presence, he was given water. He murdered people, but he was taken alive.

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I have not seen or heard any confirmation his mother gave him the rifle in question, nor that she had anything to do with what happened that night. I have not seen any evidence he was radicalized, either. Being a Trump supporter does not make anyone a radical. That would be like saying anyone that attended a Biden rally has been radicalized.

The three men who chased and attacked Rittenhouse all levied lethal force against him. One gave his head a flying kick, another beat him with a skateboard, and the third pulled a handgun out. The two that were actually shot were armed (skateboard and handgun), so the news you are reading is false.

Rittenhouse turned himself in, and was compliant with the police. The police did act questionable by not immediately detaining him, but he was cooperative throughout. I want to know their standing orders, and their protocols that evening.

posted August 29, 2020 03:38 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I’ve also been thinking about the fact that the shooter in Kenosha, was radicalized by his mother. She armed him, drove him there, apparently, and now her child is a murderer. I don’t know if he was scared when he realized that he’d actually shot someone. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was. Still, the people trying to stop him, weren’t armed, and the police let him go. The armed people were told that the police were grateful for their presence, he was given water. He murdered people, but he was taken alive.

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to call him a murderer implies he didn't kill in self defense, this is assumption not backed in facts and only based on feeling

self defense is not murder

the police let him go because many protestors were armed and not getting arrested these cops had no knowledge of the incident when they let him go and weren't stopping people because the right to open carry exists

he had his arms raised he was clearly not a threat and they were coming from the direction opposite the shooting

these are not peaceful protests citizens trying to keep a strong presence to help their communities isn't negative and being armed is only intelligent in these circumstances

these were not premeditated murders

one man tried to incite violence by antagonizing people with guns on video and eyewitness accounts and the police report all state that he tried to grab the gun from rittenhouse before he was shot

another hit rittenhouse with a skateboard and tried to take his gun on video while rittenhouse was on the ground before he was shot as well

and the third was ready to shoot rittenhouse when he was subdued

posted August 29, 2020 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Dhyana:


Dumuzi, thank you for your post. Unfortunately, Kyle Rittenhouse is going to be subjected to this kind of slander and character assassination from people who don't have a grasp of the facts nor do they care.

Fortunately, from what I've heard, he has excellent legal representation, and Lin Wood is involved as an advisor as he's not a criminal defense attorney.

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posted August 30, 2020 12:56 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
http://twitter.com/shannonsharpe/status/1299783390573465600?s=21

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posted August 30, 2020 01:03 PM            

what i posted was actual statistics what you posted is a single video of a single incident between one man and one cop

there is no video of said cop treating black people any differently so it's not like you can say the way the cop composed himself is based on the race of the other person at all

show me that same cop using deadly force on a black man doing the same thing he let a white man go for and then maybe you'd have some ground to stand on by posting this (though even then it would remain a reflection of a single person not the police force as a whole)

otherwise you're wasting everyone's time with this, single incidents do not reflect statistics accurately

posted August 30, 2020 03:12 PM            

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The following is the release of information from the KPPA and the officers involved:

“The recent officer-involved shooting in Kenosha has produced a variety of feelings and
narratives; most of which are wholly inaccurate. The purely fictional depiction of events coming from those without direct knowledge of what actually occurred is incredibly harmful, and provides no benefit to anyone whatsoever, other than to perpetuate a
misleading narrative. The lawyers for Mr. Blake, among others, have continued to provide
false and misleading “facts” to the public, in what can only be considered a ploy for
attention and sympathy. Unfortunately, even the incident update from the Wisconsin
Department of Justice, Division of Criminal Investigation (“DCI”) -- the agency charged
with investigating the incident independently -- is riddled with incomplete information, and
omits important details that would help to paint a more complete picture of the incident.
While DCI updated that release earlier today (8/28/20), it is still lacking.

The Kenosha Professional Police Association, including the officers involved, believe the
public deserves to know the truth.
Here are the actual and undisputed facts:

• The officers were dispatched to the location due to a complaint that Mr. Blake was
attempting to steal the caller’s keys/vehicle.

• Officers were aware of Mr. Blake’s open warrant for felony sexual assault (3rd degree) before they arrived on scene.

• Mr. Blake was not breaking up a fight between two females when officers arrived on scene.

• The silver SUV seen in the widely circulated video was not Mr. Blake’s vehicle.

• Mr. Blake was not unarmed. He was armed with a knife. The officers did not see the knife
initially. The officers first saw him holding the knife while they were on the passenger side
of the vehicle. The “main” video circulating on the internet shows Mr. Blake with the knife
in his left hand when he rounds the front of the car. The officers issued repeated commands
for Mr. Blake to drop the knife. He did not comply.

• The officers initially tried to speak with Mr. Blake, but he was uncooperative.

• The officers then began issuing verbal commands to Mr. Blake, but he was non-complaint.

• The officers next went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake, so as to gain compliance and control.

• Mr. Blake actively resisted the officers’ attempt to gain compliance.

• The officers then disengaged and drew their tasers, issuing commands to Mr. Blake that
he would be tased if he did not comply.

• Based on his non-compliance, one officer tased Mr. Blake. The taser did not incapacitate
Mr. Blake.

• The officers once more went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake; again, trying to gain control of
the escalating situation.

• Mr. Blake forcefully fought with the officers, including putting one of the officers in a headlock.

• A second taser (from a different officer than had deployed the initial taser) was then
deployed on Mr. Blake. It did not appear to have any impact on him.

• Based on the inability to gain compliance and control after using verbal, physical and less lethal means, the officers drew their firearms.

• Mr. Blake continued to ignore the officers’ commands, even with the threat of lethal force
now present.

The foregoing facts need to be added to the story to correct what is currently out there. As the uncontested facts above demonstrate, the officers involved gave Mr. Blake numerous
opportunities to comply. He chose not to. None of the officers involved wished for things to
transpire the way it did. It is my hope that truth and transparency will help begin and aid in the healing process.”

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http://www.wispolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Kenosha-Police-Association-Releases-Vital-Details-on-Jacob-Blake-Shooting-August-28-2020-PS.pdf

posted August 30, 2020 03:30 PM            

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Blake's family and multiple witnesses told ABC News the 29-year-old security guard had just broken up an argument before he was shot.

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The Press Statement released by the Kenosha Police says this is false:

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Mr. Blake was not breaking up a fight between two females when officers arrived on scene.

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posted September 09, 2020 04:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:    
What is wrong with waiting for more facts and evidence to come in before you make up your mind one way or another? Trust me when I say that, it will do wonders for your peace of mind and for your mental and emotional health.

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