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Dhyana
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posted August 28, 2020 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The latest battleground in this civil war in the U.S. is Kenosha, Wisconsin.

Kyle Rittenhouse, a 17 year old resident of Antioch, Illinois, crossed state lines to Kenosha, WI. On the evening of August 25th, Rittenhouse, armed with an AR-15, was involved in a violent confrontation with rioters, which resulted in the deaths of two of the rioters, and the wounding of a third. He is now facing charges in these shooting deaths.

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In the hours before the shooting incident,@KristanTHarris, @RichieMcGinniss, and @ElijahSchaffer all interviewed Rittenhouse, who said he was protecting a local vehicle dealership together with several other armed men. He also offers medical assistance to protesters.

Shortly before midnight, Rittenhouse is seen on a YouTube video being chased in a parking lot. At that time, the sound of a gunshot is heard. This is the first shot, fired by an unknown gunman.

Rittenhouse turns in the direction of the gunfire and another person attacks him. He fires four times and one man appears to be shot in the head. He makes a phone call to who we now know is a friend saying he’s killed someone. Then he flees the scene. He is pursued by several people when he trips and falls to the ground. He then fires four shots at three people lunging toward him. One person is struck in the chest and another, armed with a handgun, is hit in the arm. Rittenhouse stands up and with his hands up starts walking toward police cars that are parked a block from the scene.

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Witness, Julio Rosas, 24, said “two people jumped onto him and there was a struggle for control of his rifle,” according to the Chicago Tribune.

“The rifle was being jerked around in all directions while it was being fired,” he said.
Pat Mess, whose said his grandparents live near the area where the shooting took place, said the gunman appeared to have been pushed to the ground.

“All hell broke loose from there,” Mess said. “That’s when all the shots started breaking out. That was when we witnessed the man right here laying on his back with an AR-style rifle.
“He proceeded to flip over and he fired two shots from that.”


http://twitter.com/trbrtc

http://www.westernjournal.com/big-name-legal-team-steps-help-kyle-r ittenhouse-fight-kenosha-murder-charges/


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posted August 28, 2020 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jorge Ventura, an independent journalist on the ground in Kenosha, speaking to Laura Ingraham:

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On Monday night, according to the Fire Department in Kenosha, just between Monday and Sunday, 30 businesses have been damaged or looted. We’ve seen a Department of Corrections burned to the ground. I spoke to one Wisconsin local who spoke to me. He said on Monday night, he witnessed a 70 year old man trying to defend his business and was assaulted by a mob and attacked by multiple people and unsuccessfully unfortunately was not able to defend his business. It was burned to the ground.

http://twitter.com/VenturaReport/status/1299138689335988231

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posted August 28, 2020 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ElijahSchaffer

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This is what happened right when the last two rioters were shot. Does this look like a homicide or self defense to you? The shooter is in green on the floor

http://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1299148987556126722

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posted August 28, 2020 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ElijahSchaffer

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KENOSHA: the victims of the shootings have been identified:

JOSEPH ROSENBAUM: resgistered sex offender / sexual misconduct w/ a child — DECEASED

ANTHONY HUBER: domestic abuser / battery for assaulting girlfriend — DECEASED

GAIGE GROSSKREUTZ: criminal gun charges — WOUNDED


This is not to say these people deserved to be shot. What it shows is that contrary to the fake news media and Democrats' talking point, these are not peaceful protesters.

http://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1299060199681150977

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posted August 28, 2020 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@KyleHooten2

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Just got robbed at gunpoint in Minneapolis for my bulletproof vest and backpack

http://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1298824952599261185

@ElijahSchaffer

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The anti-American antagonists knows they are at war

http://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1298824952599261185

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posted August 28, 2020 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ElijahSchaffer

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CONTEXT: additional interview of the #KenoshaRiot shooter by reporter
@RichieMcGinniss

Still no signs of malicious intentions, racist motivations, though he did understand the potential threat of being at this event, hence the firearm


http://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1298698799670591490

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posted August 28, 2020 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Big-Name Legal Team Steps Up To Help Kyle Rittenhouse Fight Kenosha Murder Charges

http://www.westernjournal.com/big-name-legal-team-steps-help-kyle-rittenhouse-fight-kenosha-murder-charges/

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posted August 28, 2020 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is how the left is spinning this story.

@AyannaPressley

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A 17 year old white supremacist domestic terrorist drove across state lines, armed with an AR 15.

He shot and killed 2 people who had assembled to affirm the value, dignity, and worth of Black lives.

Fix your damn headlines.


Ayanna Pressley is a congresswoman serving Massachusetts 7th CD. Member of "the squad."

Pressley accuses Kyle Rittenhouse of being a "white supremacist" and a "terrorist" without evidence. And, apparently, she thinks arson and looting are ways to affirm the value, dignity, and worth of Black lives.


http://twitter.com/AyannaPressley

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posted August 28, 2020 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait, you're blaming the victims for being murdered? Someone tried to stop him, after he shot someone. That's how two more people were injured, and another one died.

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posted August 28, 2020 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We're in danger of a civil war, because of people like him, and those of you here, who spin whatever they're doing. Also were perfectly fine with armed idiots threatening people (mainly women) in power, as long as they wanted the same things that you do. I feel sick.

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posted August 28, 2020 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might feel less sick if you learn facts before you believe media narratives. There is a witness who was a reporter there. He saw one of the victims trying to take the gun away from him. If you are trying to take my firearm: 1. You’re stupid. 2. I have reason to believe you are going to kill me. 3. If I fear for my life, I am justified in using deadly force to defend my life. He was shot four times. The reporter ran over to check on the victim and saw someone walk over to his side. The reporter yelled: “Call 911!” The person took out his phone and dialed 911. The reporter looked up. That person was the shooter. That’s why he walked past the cops flagging them down. As the reporter and another person and walked the victim to the hospital, he saw someone pull a gun on the perpetrator, and he shot his arm. That victim was at the hospital also when the reporter was there. The witness didn’t see the skateboard incident, but that was clearly self-defense. If this was the was it was portrayed in the media, this kid could have killed literally dozens of people. Also, why would he have returned to check on the person he shot? And call for help?

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posted August 28, 2020 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The victim I described was Rosenbaum.

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posted August 28, 2020 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A top-notch legal team has been formed to defend him.

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posted August 29, 2020 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/trump-secessionist-top/615847/?fbclid=IwAR1hIIBEe_xC0p4JluC8ltkQrVJhBd0j5ZkElZ-9B5wsH8p81H5DAUD9Z7o

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posted August 29, 2020 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the most important articles of 2020 via @CassandraRules
ElijahSchaffer

Kyle Rittenhouse Was Working as a Lifeguard in Kenosha the Day of the Shooting, Went to Clean Vandalism at School After Work

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Kyle Rittenhouse is a community lifeguard who was working in Kenosha the day of the shooting.

This simple fact destroys the narrative being peddled by the mainstream media that he had “crossed state lines” to harm the rioters.

In a statement by Rittenhouse’s legal team at Pierce Bainbridge, provided to the Gateway Pundit, “after Kyle finished his work that day as a community lifeguard in Kenosha, he wanted to help clean up some of the damage, so he and a friend went to the local public high school to remove graffiti by rioters.”

Additionally, the weapon Rittenhouse was using to protect himself and others never crossed state lines.

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A 17-year old child should not have to take up arms in America to protect life and property. That is the job of state and local governments. However, those governments have failed, and law-abiding citizens have no choice but to protect their own communities as their forefathers did at Lexington and Concord in 1775,” Pierce said. “Kyle is not a racist or a white supremacist. He is a brave, patriotic, compassionate law-abiding American who loves his country and his community. He did nothing wrong. He defended himself, which is a fundamental right of all Americans given by God and protected by law. He is now in the crosshairs of institutional forces that are much more powerful than him. But he will stand up to them and fight not only for himself, but for all Americans and their beloved Constitution. We will never leave his side until he is victorious in that fight.”


http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle- rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/


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posted August 29, 2020 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ Oh dear!

If this turns out to be true, that he was actually working in Konesha the day of the shooting and did not as the left media narrative put it "TRAVELLED ACROSS STATES LINES WITH A WEAPON TO SHOOT AT PEACEFUL PROTESTERS" if that doesn't put a coffin in the nails of the ongling left wing narrative, then nothing will.

I will be watching how this case develops, then I will need to take a break from social media and its madness. I already know who I am voting for in November, unless something extraordinarily egregious happens.

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posted August 29, 2020 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@realAlexBaumann

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Safety standards and core rules for Washington State conveniently end the day after the election.
Is this about a virus or the election.
Who benefits the most?
No debates- Can Biden debate?

]http://lni.wa.gov/safety-health/safety-rules/chapter-pdfs/WAC296-800.pdf

http://twitter.com/realAlexBaumann/status/1284240420302536705

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posted August 29, 2020 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On July 17th [#4587], Q indicated an attempted massive cyber attack planned for November 4th. But, making it public may pre-empt it.

Moves and counter moves.

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posted August 29, 2020 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The goal is to flood the system with mail-in votes and then challenge the results in court. That's why Biden has 600 lawyers.

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http://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/iixaux/kyle_rittenhouse_along_with_other_white_males/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Rittenhouse sucker-punching a girl.

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posted August 29, 2020 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The goal is to flood the system with mail-in votes and then challenge the results in court. That's why Biden has 600 lawyers.

And, Hillary Clinton is signaling for Biden not to concede the results of the election.

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posted August 29, 2020 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Under any circumstances.

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posted August 30, 2020 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Intelligence chief shifts election security briefings to written updates

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Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe notified Congress that the intelligence community will be scaling back in-person congressional briefings on election security and replacing them with written updates ahead of November.

The top intelligence official argued this process will better protect the unauthorized disclosure of sensitive information, a statement that appears to be a nod toward Congress leaking information.


http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/514275-intelligence-chief-shifts-election-security-briefings-to-written-updates


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Former acting Director of National Intelligence, Richard Grenell, welcomed the move - tweeting on Saturday: "Career intelligence officials came to me to say they didn’t want to brief the Hill because the partial information leaks and manipulation of their words were detrimental to their careers," adding "This is a very good reform."

http://www.zerohedge.com/political/schiff-pelosi-livid-after-intel-community-ditches-manipulated-election-briefings-written


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posted August 30, 2020 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wait, you're blaming the victims for being murdered? Someone tried to stop him, after he shot someone. That's how two more people were injured, and another one died.

they were not victims of a murder these were people who were killed by another person in self defense and yes they are partially responsible because they attacked another person first

you're using loaded words like "victims" and "murder" that take everything that happened out of context

what really happened based on evidence is this:


the FIRST man who was killed, rosenbaum, was recorded antagonizing people with guns screaming "shoot me" while getting in their faces and at that point lived long enough to get shot elsewhere

a video just before the first shooting took place shows a handgun being fired off somewhere in the crowd (this person's identity is unclear) and set things in motion because the crowd began to panic

now there is no video footage of the first shooting but eyewitness accounts and the police report state that rosenbaum was reaching for rittenhouse's gun and trying to take it

tell me would you walk over to a man with a gun and try to take it during a riot while shots are being fired elsewhere? because i don't think anyone in their right mind would and i doubt you do either

if you had a gun and someone tried to take it from you, a person who was openly aggressive towards you previously and was part of a crowd of people who are destroying cars and buildings and setting things on fire would you think "this guy just wants to be friends"? doubt it

the reality is in an already hostile situation where two people are clearly on opposing sides to begin with one trying to take the other's weapon is more than a clear threat with ill intent (anyone trying to grab your gun from you regardless is a threat, but even if we pretend otherwise we can recognize that someone who's part of a violent angry mob who's opposed to your purpose in being there and already behaved aggressively is a threat)

this man was not peacefully sitting somewhere then getting shot in the back of the head, that's a victim that's murder

this is an openly hostile aggressor trying to use force to gain control of a deadly weapon from someone he views as an enemy

so rosenbaum? not a victim, not a murder

after he was shot we have a video of rittenhouse making a phone call after he clearly checked on rosenbaum and then fleeing the scene

videos show rittenhouse being chased then tripping at which point 3 men come towards him one kicks him in the head and runs off, gets away then huber comes onto the scene (note that huber is also on the side of the violent protestors)

huber a man armed with a skateboard goes up to rittenhouse hits him with the skateboard and tries take his gun away a move that gets him shot

now is a man who's running away a threat? because rittenhouse clearly was not using his weapon while he was trying to retreat and move away from the situation and mob

when he first fell he did not shoot anyone

his gun comes out when someone goes up to him and kicks him in the head (keep in mind he's surrounded by a mob of protestors and is now getting attacked a second time) but that guy runs off and is fine

huber immediately after goes up to him armed with just a skateboard hits him with it and tries to take his gun and gets shot

would you use a skateboard to try to take a gun? i wouldn't

would you walk up to someone who wasnt firing into a crowd but rather trying to get away and attack them to get their gun? i wouldn't , huber did though

this isn't heroism as rittenhouse was not an immediate threat and huber both chased and attacked him

when chased and attacked it's natural to defend yourself, and rittenhouse had no guarantee of what huber would do if he got his gun he did the only thing he could do and shot him (keep in mind huber was part of a mob of violent protestors)

clear cut self defense and no one in their right mind would just allow someone attacking them to also get their hands on an even more effective weapon than the one they've hit you with already

this "victim" put himself in a dangerous position, used force first, and lost

immediately after grosskreutz comes up to rittenhouse and pulls a gun on him and is shot in the arm (not killed a clear shot aimed right at the arm with the gun) subduing him

this man had a gun and would have shot rittenhouse had he not been stopped, is a person attacking me a victim if i use force to stop them? since when? he could have easily killed rittenhouse right there

after all this rittenhouse gets up and leaves the scene, hands up he passes some cops coming from the opposite direction who do not stop him because he is not a visible threat and open carry is legal and this is a dangerous place to be, they continue to drive and no one else is shot aside from three attackers

how is this murder? how are they victims?

also a little background info here

rosenbaum- sex offender, open battery case domestic abuse/disorderly conduct charges
huber- domestic abuse, drug charges, convicted in a strangulation case
grosskreutz- burglary, could not legally possess a firearm and was a felon for previous firearm charges

all 3 of these men travelled further than rittenhouse to be at these protests one came armed, all have a history of violence and all were participating in violent riots on the side of the rioters

rittenhouse- involved in a program for youths who want to be cops, was in kenosha cleaning graffiti and helping out, no past history of violence

do you see what's wrong with the picture you were just painting of these "innocent victims of murder"?

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posted August 30, 2020 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Adbusters

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On September 17, 2020 we will lay siege to The @WhiteHouse for exactly fifty days.

We need your wisdom and expertise to pull off a radically democratic toneshift in our politics.

Are you ready for #revolution?

This is the #WhiteHouseSiege


http://twitter.com/Adbusters/status/1288193793267625984

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