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teasel
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posted September 30, 2020 12:02 PM
  
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Originally posted by Randall:
If President Trump weren’t a fighter, he would have accomplished nothing that he got done in his first term. Historically, Republicans who try to be cordial with vicious Dems at debates get accused of all sorts of things, and they take it. You have to be aggressive against those tactics. Thank you, President Trump!
Vicious Dems? Here we go. He told white supremacists to stand by. They’re apparently loving it, because he didn’t condemn them.
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teasel
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posted September 30, 2020 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by ballerina:
President Trump must absolutely be
sick and tired of being attacked!
No President in history has ever been
treated this way! The disrespect is
disgusting.Have we forgotten he works for free,
because he loves America... Can we realize that the Earth has
moved and wobbled, and that is the
reason for the glaciers melting,
with new ones forming behind them.
Not global warming! Biden can't handle what this
country is going through....
If he’s tired of it, think of everyone that he has attacked. You guys have short memories. Trump supporters didn’t shut up about Obama, and you still bring up Hillary, even though she’s not in the White House. Anything Clinton or Obama, gets you going. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted September 30, 2020 02:42 PM
"Anything Clinton or Obama, gets you going."Yeah, like Hillary The Corrupt and The Marxist Messiah, Obama teaming up to run a coup against the duly elected President of the United States, President Donald J Trump, using the FBI, Justice Dept and intelligence agencies of the United States. Sleepy Joe Biden was in on it too. Suggesting General Flynn should be prosecuted for violation of the Logan Act. Sleepy Joe's usual stupidity. TREASON IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted September 30, 2020 03:06 PM
Trump won the debate. Now, democrats and democrat propagandists in the press want to cancel the other 2 debates.No matter what they're saying today...like Biden won the debate, they wouldn't be talking about cancelling the other 2 debates unless they knew Trump wiped the floor with Biden. Certainly, they wouldn't be talking about tossing in a winning hand, but they are. Donald Trump Won the First Debate
John Nolte
30 Sep 2020 The corrupt national media are not demanding the two remaining presidential debates be canceled because they believe Joe Biden wiped the floor with Donald Trump..... http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/30/nolte-donald-trump-won-the-first-debate/ IP: Logged |
ballerina
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posted September 30, 2020 03:09 PM
Teasel,
When the President was asked if he
would denounce white supremacists..
He answered, "SURE".. That was his
first answer!I don't mention Hillary! ..Biden telling the President of the
United States to shut up..is disgusting.
When my kids were in elementary school
I got a teacher fired for telling my
kids to shut up. Then he calls him, "CRAZY"
Biden truly hates the President! ------------------
All my love, with all my Heart
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teasel
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posted September 30, 2020 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by ballerina:
Teasel,
When the President was asked if he
would denounce white supremacists..
He answered, "SURE".. That was his
first answer!I don't mention Hillary! ..Biden telling the President of the
United States to shut up..is disgusting.
When my kids were in elementary school
I got a teacher fired for telling my
kids to shut up. Then he calls him, "CRAZY"
Biden truly hates the President!
He told them to stand back and stand by. "Sure" wasn't an answer. He didn't actually say it, to the camera. I don't expect him to. Biden is apparently polling 60-28 (re: the debate), so I guess people didn't like Trump railroading everyone. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 30, 2020 05:30 PM
Wrong, as always, teasel. President Trump answered "sure," meaning he denounced white supremacists, and he asked who Wallace was talking about. Biden said "Proud Boys," Wallace said "stand down," and President Trump then repeated what the two of them said, doing what Wallace asked. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted September 30, 2020 05:42 PM
Biden's debate lies, must be a world's record in a 45 minute time frame:Antifa Is Not a Group http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/30/mccarthy-bidens-claim-antifa-not-group-dont-know-whats-streets-then/ Biden Kept Saying Hunter Stories ‘Discredited, Debunked’ http://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/09/30/fncs-pirro-biden-kept-saying-hunter-stories-discredited-debunked-i-kept-waiting-by-whom-is-it-debunked/ Biden Claims Suburbs Will Be ‘Flooded,’ ‘Burned Out’ Because of Trump’s Inaction on Environment, Virus — ‘People Are Dying” http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/biden-claims-suburbs-will-be-flooded-burned-out-because-of-trumps-inaction-on-environment-virus-people-are-dying/ Fact Check: Biden Rejects Claim that Educators Push Anti-Americanism http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/30/fact-check-biden-rejects-claim-that-educators-push-anti-americanism/ Fact Check: Biden Claims ‘No One Has Established’ There Is ‘Fraud Related to Mail-in Ballots’ http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/fact-check-biden-claims-no-one-has-established-there-is-fraud-related-to-mail-in-ballots/ Fact Check: Donald Trump Does Not ‘Vote by Mail,’ Votes Absentee http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/ffact-check-donald-trump-does-not-vote-by-mail-votes-absentee/ Fact Check: Democrat Governors Praised Trump’s Coronavirus Response http://www.breitbart.com/health/2020/09/29/fact-check-democrat-governors-praised-trumps-coronavirus-response/ Fact Check: Joe Biden Says Obama-Biden Left Trump a Booming Economy and Trump Caused a Recession http://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/09/29/fact-check-biden-says-obama-biden-left-trump-a-booming-economy-and-trump-caused-a-recession/ Fact Check: Joe Biden Falsely Claims Fauci Didn’t Flip-Flop on Efficacy of Masks http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/30/fact-check-joe-biden-falsely-claims-fauci-didnt-flip-flop-on-efficacy-of-masks/ Fact Check: Biden Falsely Claims the Pandemic Recovery Helps Only the Wealthy http://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/09/29/fact-check-biden-falsely-claims-the-pandemic-recovery-helps-only-the-wealthy/ Fact Check– Trump: Dr. Fauci Said, ‘President Trump Saved Thousands of Lives’ http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/fact-check-trump-fauci-president-saved-thousands-lives/ Fact Check: Biden Claims He Did Not Call Military Members ‘Stupid ******** ’ http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/fact-check-biden-claims-he-did-not-call-military-members-stupid-******** / FACT CHECK: Joe Biden Claims Donald Trump Told People to Inject Bleach into Their Arms http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/fact-check-joe-biden-claims-donald-trump-told-people-inject-bleach-their-arms/ Fact Check: Joe Biden Did Not Support Trump’s China Travel Ban Despite Spread of Chinese Coronavirus http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/fact-check-joe-biden-did-not-support-trumps-china-travel-ban-despite-spread-of-chinese-coronavirus/ Fact Check: CNN Falsely Claims Trump ‘Refuses to Call Out White Supremacists’ http://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/09/29/fact-check-cnn-falsely-claims-trump-refuses-to-call-out-white-supremacists/ Fact Check: Joe Biden Falsely Claims 15 Percent Drop in Violent Crime on His Watch http://www.breitbart.com/crime/2020/09/29/fact-check-joe-biden-falsely-claims-15-percent-drop-in-violent-crime-on-his-watch/ Fact Check: Joe Biden Falsely Claims Kellyanne Conway Backs Riots (Again) http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/fact-check-joe-biden-falsely-claims-kellyanne-conway-backs-riots-again/ Fact Check: Joe Biden Repeats False Claim that Trump Cleared ‘Peaceful Protesters” http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/fact-check-joe-biden-repeats-false-claim-that-trump-cleared-peaceful-protesters/ Fact Check: Biden Falsely Claims the Trade Deficit with China is Higher Now http://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/09/29/fact-check-biden-falsely-claims-the-trade-deficit-with-china-is-higher-now/ Fact Check: Chris Wallace and Joe Biden Repeat Charlottesville ‘Very Fine People Hoax’ at Presidential Debate http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/fact-check-chris-wallace-and-joe-biden-repeat-charlottesville-very-fine-people-hoax-at-debate/ Fact Check: Joe Biden Says Report of Russian Billionaire Paying Hunter’s Firm $3.5M ‘Totally Discredited’ http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/29/fact-check-joe-biden-claims-his-son-did-not-receive-3-5m-from-wife-of-former-moscow-mayor/ Fact Check: Joe Biden Claims to Not Support Green New Deal http://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/09/29/fact-check-biden-claims-not-support-green-new-deal/ Fact Check: Joe Biden Falsely Claims Trump Did Not Ask China to Allow U.S. to Investigate Coronavirus http://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/09/29/fact-check-joe-biden-falsely-claims-trump-did-not-ask-china-to-allow-u-s-to-investigate-coronavirus/ Fact Check: Joe Biden Falsely Claims Trump Has Not Lowered Drug Prices 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Blind writer
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posted September 30, 2020 05:56 PM
This is exactly why we needed Joe Rogan to moderate. That was the worst moderation I have ever seen, and Wallace should be ashamed for shoehorning his own opinions and bias into the conversation. Last I checked, Wallace is not running for president.Rogan and Tucker should be the next moderators. Both will remain neutral and ask fair and straight questions that challenge both candidates to defend their platform. Ya know, like debates are supposed to do. All the mess aside, this was the first debate I’ve ever been entertained enough by to laugh aloud. Debates are usually dull as dirt, but I found myself snickering several times this round. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted September 30, 2020 06:12 PM
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Randall
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posted September 30, 2020 06:26 PM
When will Biden denounce the KKK? He spoke at the funeral of a Grand Wizard of the KKK.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 30, 2020 06:45 PM
This debate was about encouraging your base to vote. President Trump was dominant over a very weak Biden and fired up his base. Biden failed.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 30, 2020 07:11 PM
Looks much different when all context is added.1 - Wallace refused to accept “sure” for an answer and demanded Trump (and only Trump) condemn extremists onstage. 2 - Wallace is the one who introduced the “stand down” language — not Trump, who was doing what he was asked. 3 - Biden is the one who demanded Trump condemn the “Proud Boys” — a right-wing group — and Trump complied. 4 - Biden refused to condemn Antifa, saying it was “an idea, not an organization.” Wallace then tried to end the argument. The transcript, amid the crosstalk, reveals the truth. Wallace: You have repeatedly criticized the vice president for not specifically calling out Antifa — Trump: That’s right. Wallace: — and other left-wing extremist groups. But are you willing, tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups — Trump: Sure. Wallace: — and to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha, and as we’ve seen in Portland. Trump: Sure, I’m willing to do that. Wallace: Are you prepared specifically to do it. Trump: I would say — Wallace: Go ahead, sir. Trump: I would say almost everything I see is from the left wing not, not from the right wing. Wallace: So what are you — what are you saying? Trump: I’m willing to do anything. I want to see peace. Wallace: Well, then, do it, sir. Trump: I am — Biden: Say it. Do it. Say it. Trump: Do you call them — What do you want to call them? Give me a name. Give me a name. Wallace: White supremacist — and right-wing militia. Trump: Go ahead. Who would you like me to condemn? Biden: White supremacists. The Proud Boys. Trump: Who. Wallace: White supremacists and right-wing militia. Trump: Proud Boys, stand back and stand by. But I’ll tell you what, I’ll tell you what. Somebody’s got to do something about Antifa and the left. Because this is not a right-wing problem — Biden: His own — his own FBI director said — Trump: –this is a left-wing problem. This is a left-wing problem. Biden: — the threat comes from white supremacists. Antifa is an idea, not an organization. Trump: Oh, you gotta be kidding. Biden: Not militia. That’s what his FBI — Trump: Oh, really, FBI, OK. Biden: His FBI director said. Wallace: Gentlemen, we’re gonna — Trump: Well, then he’s wrong. Wallace: No, no. We’re done, sir. IP: Logged |
ballerina
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posted September 30, 2020 08:35 PM
Thanks, Randall!
That's very helpful!------------------
All my love, with all my Heart
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Belage
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posted September 30, 2020 11:32 PM
I still can't bring myself to watch the debate or part of it, but from what I heard, Trump was maybe too forceful. This debate is about winning over the independents/undecided/swing voters. They are the ones who will decide the outcome of the election. The American people are TIRED of all the fighting. That is why BLM and Antifa's stocks have gone down, people are TIRED of seeing adults acting belligerent. The American people like a fighting spirit, but in the debates, whoever manages to appear both a fighting spirit AND more self-control will ultimately earn the heart and votes of the independent/swing voters. I will make the time to watch the debate in its entirety this weekend to see for myself what really happened. Can't take other people's words for it. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 30, 2020 11:46 PM
Actually, in this election, there aren’t that many undecided voters. The key to winning for President Trump is to get his base out there voting. This is the same Trump from 2016 that we voted for. He hasn’t changed. We love that he fights for the forgotten man and woman. We wouldn’t have him any other way. Biden basically said we have to vote for him to know what he will do as President. He refused to condemn ANTIFA. He lied about not supporting the Green New Deal (his website says he embraces it). He refused to answer whether or not he would stack the Supreme Court. He continued to ramble on about things that have already been discredited about President Trump, while refusing to address his son’s payment from the Russians. And further, he was the first to interrupt President Trump and did so three times during the first two minutes of President Trump’s time. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted September 30, 2020 11:50 PM
That being said, I have very little respect for Independents. They either waste their vote on third parties, or they are just afraid to call themselves Democrats. This election is about the very life of the nation. Choose a side.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 01, 2020 01:35 AM
""Trump basically said to go f*** them up! this makes me so happy," Biggs wrote." http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/09/30/who-are-proud-boys-trump IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 01, 2020 02:05 AM
He also mocked Biden's son for his past drug problems. JFC, he was a full-on bully last night, and I don't know how anyone can defend him, or be proud of his display. It's disgusting - all of it. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 01, 2020 02:12 AM
http://twitter.com/steve_pierce/status/1311294610489200640 Another republican voting for Biden, because of trump's performance last night. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 01, 2020 03:18 AM
The media should quit the fake outrage. They are as nasty as possible. They expect Republicans to just take it like they always have. President Trump fights back and hits hard. If Biden can’t take it, he should go back to the basement. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 01, 2020 05:45 PM
The party of the nasty rabid dog attacks on Kavanaugh now say they are upset by President Trump being a meanie at the debate.  IP: Logged |
etherealsaturn
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posted October 01, 2020 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
""Trump basically said to go f*** them up! this makes me so happy," Biggs wrote." http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/09/30/who-are-proud-boys-trump
Ok? That doesn't mean he actually did, because he didn't...
I'm sure Biden doesn't like or encourage people like Richard Spencer endorsing him. IP: Logged |
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