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vansio
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posted October 15, 2020 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://astrologicalworldmap.com/2020/08/23/kamala-harris-vs-donald-trump/

Excerpt of article introduction: «This article attempts a comparative study of the Natal Chart Synastry and the Davison Relationship Chart between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump assuming that these methods can provide important insights into the political issues of the confrontation between these two opponents in the Presidential elections of November, 3 2020.»

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posted October 15, 2020 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. I’ll check it out later.

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posted November 01, 2020 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump.

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posted November 02, 2020 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra ruler venus is friends with Saturn


Capricorn is an earth sign and Trump is a Tauris per Vedic , an earth sign. Saturn may not be that debilitating perhaps.

What Americans has been waiting for , the morning star Venus's return. These V shapers don't allow it. America is a Gemini not cancer per actual observations. North and SOuth america belongs to one Lord/King.


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posted November 02, 2020 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did Joe Biden drop out of the race? lol

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posted November 02, 2020 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Either president won't last. Hence VP pick is imp.

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posted November 02, 2020 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Either president won't last. Hence VP pick is imp.

Okay, Nostradamama. lol

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posted November 03, 2020 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a little confused by the point of the article as I thought it was Biden vs Trump.

In any case, I started to read same, but didn't find it particularly good or accurate in some respects.

However, it did inspire me to look into Harris's chart. I knew very little about her, never have previously given her much thought, etc, hence I went into this with very much a beginners mind.

I've looked at Trump's chart previously, and both astrologically and intuitively, I've sensed for a long time that he has a malignant narcissistic personality. So I'm not going to address him here (it is so obvious to me both astrologically and behavior pattern wise, I wouldn't waste my time debating this).

Harris also has a very worrying chart--perhaps even a bit more than Trump's. It reminds me of Hillary Clinton part deux. I got sociopathic or psychopathic vibes and feelings from her. I prefer dealing with a narcissists like Trump, because as obnoxious as they are, they are more direct, overt, and obvious with their issues, thoughts, etc.

Sociopaths and psychopaths on the other hand are far more covert, hidden, and usually far more subtle. They are the types that will smile nicely at you, and before you know it, they will slip a knife in your back and you never see it coming. It's sort of like a battle between the worst expression of Leo vs worst expression of Scorpio. Which is ultimately far more scary?

Anyways if her chart is more or less accurate, Harris's predominant Planet by far is Saturn. She doesn't have a Planet particularly close to her ASC, but Saturn is in it's own Sign and closely conjunct her MC with strong aspects to sensitive points.

She entered in direct from the Saturn dimension i.e. the slowest vibratory dimension there is. Saturn is the Planet which most often corresponds to ASPD pattern and attunement. When it's so strong and predominant, at it's best, it's at least rather control oriented and CEO type/wannabe.

Besides the very strong/predominant Saturn, she has several factors which show strong urge to and attraction to power. Yet, with Gemini Rising cupsing Cancer, and Pisces MC, she gives the initial impression to non intuitives of someone who is softer, more flexible, and/or caring.

Beneath that, is steely will, A LOT of ego, and a very highly Yang polarized Soul. Some patterns relating to the urge and attraction to power besides the predominant Saturn: Moon in Aries, with ruler of same, Mars, in Leo opposed the Aqua Saturn Pisces MC conjunction. Her ruling Planet, Mercury is in Scorpio conjunct Libra Sun, and ruler of that, Mars in Leo.

In some cases, I would say that the Sun conjunct the ruling Planet would help to "lift up" the chart towards a faster vibratory level, but she doesn't have the prerequiste strong/automatic attunement to Jupiter and/or Neptune for that to be the case. Few people use the Sun at it's Golden Light level (Dali Lama is one), but most use it more at the Leo like, high orange level, which is a slower vibratory expression/attunement.

There is a very deep and repeating fixity within her Soul, beneath the surface appearance of her projected personality. The ruler of her Sun and 12th, Venus, is closely conjunct the Angular Uranus and Pluto conjunction (more Fixity, with extra extremism below the surface added).

This is a hard, hard woman, very high on intellect/head polarization, attraction to power and control, and very low on felt/affective empathy, unusually so for one connected to a female body. Very reminiscent of the war hawk, bank and corporate buddy Hillary Clinton--another very hard woman, high on intellect (i.e. in her head) and very little to no connection to her heart (watching the video of her laughing maniacally about Gaddafis assassination/murder is and should be chilling).

This is NOT about some sort of prejudice towards "strong women". I happen to like and am quite attracted to strong women. My partner of almost 20 years is a very strong and fairly Yang attuned woman, but she is a much faster vibratory Soul with strong attunement to her heart and to the faster vibratory centers (5th and 6th).

If nothing else, Harris will be an establishment person through and through. She will cow tow to and lick the boots of the banks and corporations, hoping to get in with their good graces post political life.

With all that said, Trump isn't a good choice either, neither is Biden--they are all symptoms of a further developing kakistocracy. We can't even call them "lesser of evils" anymore. Now they are all just plain evil. Truly we are in the end times.

May the Creative Forces save us from these and from ourselves. Because at this point, things are that bad, and only Divine intervention will move things in the right direction.

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posted November 04, 2020 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Biden is a hell of a lot better than rump. I'm so disgusted by the results so far. Not really surprised, but sad, and it's just gross, the support that he does have.

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posted November 04, 2020 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Biden is a hell of a lot better than rump. I'm so disgusted by the results so far. Not really surprised, but sad, and it's just gross, the support that he does have.

Only on the surface. They are both corrupt AF. And both creepsters towards women. Biden is just a better politician in some respects. By that, I mean he is more self conscious and knows how to show a better, more charming side.

Biden is an establishment person through and through. He's a vassal of banks and corporations like Clinton.

None of any of these are good choice Teasel. Don't fall for the contrived, WWE projected image of "left vs right". It's all utter b.s. The same plutocrats fund and play both sides as needed and as convenient for them.

Sanders and AOC are probably the only politicians I can think of that have a Soul that they haven't sold. But even if one of these were allowed in (they wouldn't be), they wouldn't be able to fix a system that is so corrupt and broken beyond repair.

When it gets this bad, you have to start thinking about alternatives and revolution. When the apple is so rotten in it's very core, do you try to nibble the tiny bit of non rotten apple on the surface, or do you chuck it and get an apple this is fine in it's core, but may have a few dents or bruises on the surface?

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posted November 04, 2020 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<< Biden is a hell of a lot better than rump. I'm so disgusted by the results so far. Not really surprised, but sad, and it's just gross, the support that he does have. >>

Trump has lesser "Global Bad Karma" (no wars/invasions) and more Individual Bad Karma (Financial Fraud, Lies) compared to Biden who has the "Global Bad Karma" of drone strikes that killed 1000s of innocents in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

This probably did give a push from Fate for Trump to do well.

Also, Conservatives are fighting for their existence, they will not give up a 200 year empire without a pitched 2 decade battle.

I see a lot of Millenials pouring sarcasm against Rural Trump Voters in Ohio etc. That attitude will not help. Instead grassroots campaigns for the welfare of Rural GOP Voters will work wonders in 2024.

Dems have to keep up the gains at local level, Congress and Senate level consistently if they believe in themselves. In 2024, Demographics rapidly shift to majority Non-Conservative for the first time in US Existence. After that there is no looking back for Progressives.

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posted November 04, 2020 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump attacked Syria despite earlier campaign promises to not get involved in conflicts over seas. Did Syria attack us first?

He also has not pulled out of Afghanistan (this is now almost a 20 year war, which for some reason doesn't get a lot of mention in the mainstream media/press). Then he was involved in the murder/assassination of one of Iran's top and beloved Generals, which clearly was a move in trying to provoke them. Like many Presidents, he cow tows and licks the boots of Israel, because Israel has such powerful/wealthy lobbyists involved in American politics. What they are doing to the Palestinian people is a high crime that angers even the Creative Forces, and they will be having some very severe karma coming to them (yet again--it seems Israel just doesn't learn from it's pasts/mistakes. Their own religious book is filled with such examples and warnings).

Presidents don't have as much power and say as we tend to think. They have gone the way of symbolic figureheads like the Queen of England. This is why so many Presidents age and gray so noticeably after they take office--if they even have a smidge of affective empathy and conscience i.e. some semblance of a Soul, this truth weighs heavily on and stresses them.

Now the true decision makers are a combo of largest/most wealthy banks, the military-industrial complex (i.e. mega corporations who make a lot of profit from war), and Intelligence community. The combo of same is what some call "deep state" or hidden government. The Intelligence community does not answer to the President, to Congress, nor to the American people, but to the two former groups.

When Obama "made" the AHCA, it wasn't literally him, but a woman who was a big wig among Insurance corporations and involved with them for many years. She wrote it, not "Obama".

There have been actual research/statistical studies done by highly respected Universities and professors like from Harvard and Princeton that show BLATANTLY that major political decisions have not reflected the general, majority will of the people for many decades now.

People don't want to realize how bad things truly are. It's uncomfortable. They feel powerless. They would prefer to believe in the magic and illusions of "voting will eventually change things for the better". Maybe on a local level, but NOT on a Federal level.

Me, I'm a hard nosed realist who likes their truth straight up on the rocks. Chart ruler the Sun in Capricorn widely conjunct Capricorn Mercury. Ruler of the Sun Sign, Saturn in Virgo, with 3 other placements in Virgo.

Then to boot, psychic and intuitive AF with all the combo strong Jupiter, Neptune, Uranus, moderate Aquarius, Angular Pisces South Node, etc.

I've long had a tendency to see right through people (except earlier on romantically with some women), and now I've applied that to larger situations. Related to the above combo, but also more specifically related to the Cap Mercury trine 1st House Virgo Jupiter with .5 degree separation. Also, ruler of Moon Sign, Venus, in Aquarius and Angular, trine Libra Pluto and sextile Sag Neptune within a handful of minutes and closely square Angular Scorp Uranus.

It would be really nice (and helpful) if more people woke up to what's really going on, but I shall not be holding my breath. I don't stress about it because I know the Creative Forces will be intervening in the near to nearish future. Our Solar System has started to enter the Galactic Core's current sheet, and when it does more so fully, the Sun is going to go OFF like some of the closest Stars to us have been doing in recent times.

Some of these Stars were considered non flaring Stars, but in recent times have started to flare strongly and much more often.

When our Sun releases a mega flare, it will also induce the already increasingly unstsable crust to slide over the mantle i.e. a full crustal shift.

The Earth and humanity has seen these events before. Virtually every ancient culture has some remembrance of past events in their passed down memories. Historically, very few people survive these combo events, though in the past Africa was a more stable region comparatively, which is why we see far more genetic diversity among their populations then in the rest of the world (and which is why their DNA appears older because of more mutation). Euros and even Japanese for example, are far more closely related genetically than we are to Sub Saharan African peoples because of these past population bottle necks.

Even Plato talks about this pattern in his talks about Solon. Solon travels to Egypt, talks to some high priests there. Solon somewhat childishly mentions, the Greeks remember the Great Flood, and one of the high priests basically laugh at him and says, you Greeks are nothing but children. We remember many major cataclysms and have kept a continuous memory because our area hasn't suffered as much.

Interesting how this lines up with the genetic evidence, and the fact that Africa is one of the few continents that retains MANY o of it's mega fauna, whereas North America for example, lost most of it's during the last cataclysm 12, 000 or so years ago.

Buckle up buttercups, going to be a bumpy ride in a few years or so.

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posted November 04, 2020 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good stuff there, GalacticCoreExplosion

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posted November 04, 2020 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Shura.

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posted November 04, 2020 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice to know saturns influence on Kamala. America indeed has a choice to let go and move forward and follow the path of the soul, (Eagle)scorpio/libra)/Saggi/then the Urn of the human sign from where life originates).
WE have lived in the Aries/Taurus/Pisces sign too long. Trump is a Taurus BTW.

When I read the Obama plan I was impressed. It was executed poorly and part of the blame lies on the Tech companies like Oracle etc.

Trump has no idea on how to run public office. A guy who brings a former hooker to the white house must be naive. America should really fire him. Mc cain's own wife didn't stand with him today and proves the distrust women now have about him.

There was a nuclear explosion in the war between system lords in the age of Aries claims Z Sitchin. Then few years later they all dissapeared. No one knows why they left. Many on earth still worship some form of Marduk. I guess when they look down and see us breeding like ants and destroying the planet earth they will want to start civilization all over again saving the good Americans and good people worldwide. Perhaps 144,000 as the book of Revelations suggests.
The Red states thrive on root chakra and Lush , a food made of adrenalin rush. Don't get me wrong, the root chakra at base of a spine has tremendous potential to jump us forward and upward in consciousness but sex, war mongering, fear tactics , keeps us locked in the lower chakras.

Europeans comes from the region called caucus mountains hence we refer to some as caucasian. There was a mix of blood with the Asians then.


Trump is a true example of a psychopath but he is well behaved because he isn't alcoholic or drug addict. Otherwise we would have seen a worst form of him. He is a psychopath especially because he distributed chocolates and flowers to those outside the hospital who came to visit him when he was sick.


P.s. Promise to proof read later on , s o don't quote me please.

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