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Topic: Who will win the Nov 3 election if one is held at all?
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PhoenixRising
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posted October 12, 2020 05:23 PM
  
I never paid attention to the usa natal chart until now. A 10th saturn in natal of usa means, it had to struggle initially to become what it is today. It also means the rest of world perceives USA as bad. Think of it--
1. largest arms supplier in the world
2. 5 percent of of the world are Americans but they consume 90 percent of the resources of planet earth.
3. largest maker of porn movies
etc etc...
Wonder what transit of Trumps saturn in USA's jupiter will be about during dec 22.
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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted October 12, 2020 06:00 PM
Very interesting Dons2Angelss, thank you for sharing that. IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted October 12, 2020 06:09 PM
The only novelty on inauguration day when Uranus joins the party could be Kamala being appointed as VP or president. The first President of the USA or even a VP.If Trump win's ,it will be same old. I don't think the Americans have the guts like the people of France for a novelty revolution 
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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted October 12, 2020 07:24 PM
Nature/cosmic forces have other plans for us and the world. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 12, 2020 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
The only novelty on inauguration day when Uranus joins the party could be Kamala being appointed as VP or president. The first President of the USA or even a VP.If Trump win's ,it will be same old. I don't think the Americans have the guts like the people of France for a novelty revolution
Our Pluto return is coming up, if we aren't already experiencing it. IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 12, 2020 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
 His brilliant intuition? His being a maverick? Belage, come on. That Neptune square could indicate his somehow having his followers hypnotized into believing his BS.
You don't have to like him or approve of him to find him brilliant. You don't get to be POTUS against all odds by being stupid or dull. And yes he is a maverick. His NN and Sun conjunction also conjunct Uranus. Nuff said. His political ascent and presidency have been nothing short of Uranian. Took us by surprise. Won by surprise. The past 4 yeas have been one surprising jolting event after another, initiated by him or his opponents. When people think of Uranian influence, they mostly think being gay, bi or trans or dressing outrageously. Uranus is so much more than that. Ladies and gentleman, love it or hate it, we have an Uranian president!
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Belage
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posted October 12, 2020 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by Dons2angelss:
That's funny you say that. I too think Trump will win again but, I get the same thing (not from a dream). Like within the next 2 years something will happen and I just can't "see" him going 4 years, there's nothing there to "see".
If Trump does not "finish" his term, that means Pence will step in as President to finish the term. Do you see this for Pence?
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teasel
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posted October 12, 2020 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
You don't have to like him or approve of him to find him brilliant. You don't get to be POTUS against all odds by being stupid or dull. And yes he is a maverick. His NN and Sun conjunction also conjunct Uranus. Nuff said. His political ascent and presidency have been nothing short of Uranian. Took us by surprise. Won by surprise. The past 4 yeas have been one surprising jolting event after another, initiated by him or his opponents. When people think of Uranian influence, they mostly think being gay, bi or trans or dressing outrageously. Uranus is so much more than that. Ladies and gentleman, love it or hate it, we have an Uranian president!
I don't think that he's brilliant, or a maverick. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted October 12, 2020 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
I don't think that he's brilliant, or a maverick.
Fine. Use astrology to prove your point. This is an astrological thread after all.
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teasel
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posted October 12, 2020 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
Fine. Use astrology to prove your point. This is an astrological thread after all.
No, I was just responding to your post. I remember you writing negative things about Aries, in one thread. People post their negative experiences all the time - Uranus isn't always brilliant. You like him, so I expect you to think of him in a positive light. I'm not putting your post down, it's just that I really don't think of him that way. I could use other words to describe his "maverick" behaviour, but the thread would be closed. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 12, 2020 10:49 PM
 Saturn is square her Sun and Moon, Pluto trine her Jupiter. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 12, 2020 10:50 PM
 Pluto will move forward to oppose his Jupiter again... IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 12, 2020 10:51 PM
 Saturn will square his Venus and Mars, as it moves into Aquarius. Uranus is square his Uranus. Neptune is square his Mercury and his Sun. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 2106
From: Dallas
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted October 12, 2020 11:23 PM
The last four Presidents have Uranus conjunct the NN, so will likely be a Trump landslide.
I do as well along with Abe Lincoln.
Uranus on the NN allows us to think outside of the box.
That's why Trump was able to apply pressure on Iran and broker the recent Middle East peace deals.
He went about it a different way. IP: Logged |
Belage
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 12, 2020 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
No, I was just responding to your post. I remember you writing negative things about Aries, in one thread. People post their negative experiences all the time - Uranus isn't always brilliant. You like him, so I expect you to think of him in a positive light. I'm not putting your post down, it's just that I really don't think of him that way. I could use other words to describe his "maverick" behaviour, but the thread would be closed.
What are those negative things you remember me saying about Aries? IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted October 12, 2020 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
No, I was just responding to your post. I remember you writing negative things about Aries, in one thread. People post their negative experiences all the time - Uranus isn't always brilliant. You like him, so I expect you to think of him in a positive light. I'm not putting your post down, it's just that I really don't think of him that way. I could use other words to describe his "maverick" behaviour, but the thread would be closed.
You seem to have a propensity to use just about any thread as just an opportunity to vent your feelings about DT. Don't you think it's a little unhealthy? I wonder what it must be like to live in a constant state of rage... But I am not your therapist... I do think if someone has something worthwhile astrologically to say about a public figure, he/she can find the words to say it without having the thread closed. It's called being mature and having self-control, qualities that we should all strive for.
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teasel
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posted October 13, 2020 12:04 AM
For me, with Trump, I see Neptune all over the place - the negative interpretations. He's a con man, he lies all the time. He's apparently claiming to be immune to covid, stating that he could hug and kiss everyone at his rally tonight. It's BS and more BS. Belage: you immediately put this on the Democrats. He hasn't even committed to a peaceful transfer of power - not that he has a choice, but he said there would be no transfer. You may assume that it's because he's going to win. He's pushed the idea that this election will be rigged, ever since he was elected. I'm not much of a chart reader, and I didn't mean to post so much here, because I'm curious as to what others have to say about all of their charts, the election itself, if we can get a chart for that, and for January. Global Unity can look like a parade of praise for trump, this forum could be different (unless people don't want to bother). ChildofVenus said that it's scary - a lot of people feel that way. I don't want to think about him anymore. I've been enjoying reading more, cooking, watching movies, I got to spend time with my dad this weekend. I didn't want to spend October thinking about all of this. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 13, 2020 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
You seem to have a propensity to use just about any thread as just an opportunity to vent your feelings about DT. Don't you think it's a little unhealthy? I wonder what it must be like to live in a constant state of rage...But I am not your therapist... I do think if someone has something worthwhile astrologically to say about a public figure, he/she can find the words to say it without having the thread closed. It's called being mature and having self-control, qualities that we should all strive for.
I was reasonable before, and as you can see, I've posted something myself. I also posted charts for the others. I displayed self-control, by not saying the worst that could be said. I've seen other people post their feelings about trump, and they were jumped on by supporters - earlier this year, and in the past. Even people who say they don't like things about him, they only voted for him for this or that reason - they will jump on anyone who says anything against him (their own valid feelings). It also takes maturity and self-control, to not do that. I'm not raging, so you're asking the wrong person. Anxiety, when it comes to certain things - sure. I'm not the only one. By the way: if you’re going to preach civility, tolerance, self-control, and bring mental health into what had been a civilized thread, then you really should expect the same from the man you want to elect for four more years. The man you want to continue to inflict on the rest of us. This was before he was elected. You can also glance at his twitter feed, for a shining example of mental health. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 2106
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Registered: Nov 2013
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posted October 13, 2020 12:12 AM
Since the last four Presidents have their NN conjunct Uranus, I'm pretty confident the Democrats intentionally sacrificed this election by choosing Joe Biden.They are setting up for the next one. If they really thought they had a chance to win against Trump, they wouldn't have selected Joe. They all knew he has a mental condition. It's obvious but he shouldn't be preyed upon out of compassion and Trump shouldn't use it to his advantage. It's not right to take advantage of someone that has a mental issue. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 13, 2020 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Biden's birth time is not revealed but he like Obama has a south node in Sun in natal. Obama won but lost his grandma after he became the president.
I posted his chart. His birth time is apparently 8:30am. Mike Pence's chart doesn't have a birth time, on astrodienst. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted October 13, 2020 12:38 AM
Teasel, I understand that it is scary for you and a lot of people who think like you and hate DT with every fiber of their beings. But you do not have a monopoly on fear. It has also been a scary time for people who don't think like you, some of whom may or may not like DT. Scary to watch riots condoned by democrats, watching people destroy public and private properties with little to no repercussions and even be celebrated by the media. Scary to watch dissenting medical opinions being silenced and deplatformed under the guise of protecting the public. Scary to witness the PC bullyism of recent years, where any deviation from a strict PC guidelines can have you labeled racist, homophobe, xenophobe. Scary to see religious freedom trampled on. We are all afraid. Do you get it? Perhaps, if we acknowledge that all of us are afraid, we could actually talk to each other instead of at each other. IP: Logged |
vansio
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posted October 13, 2020 06:29 AM
nevermind!IP: Logged |
Dons2angelss
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posted October 13, 2020 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
If Trump does not "finish" his term, that means Pence will step in as President to finish the term. Do you see this for Pence?
I haven't at all been paying much attention to him or anything else really. I try to just stay away from it. A friend and I were talking in the beginning of the last election and our theory was that eventually pence would take over. Like all of the crazy coming from Trump is just kind of like a set up to get pence in? I haven't looked at his chart at all to make an astrological guess but it'd be interesting to see what's going on with him in about 2 years. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 13, 2020 12:07 PM
http://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/ep4jkp/california-gop-admits-to-admits-to-planting-fake-ballot-boxes-and-refuses-to-remove-them I’m wondering if the GOP has a natal chart, and about transits to that chart. I’ll look later on. They’re admitting to cheating here. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
Knowflake Posts: 2106
From: Dallas
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted October 13, 2020 12:45 PM
Teasel, I didn't get one reply on the thread I created.Maybe folks will prefer yours. IP: Logged |
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