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Dhyana
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posted October 29, 2020 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the aftermath of the censorship of his article, Greenwald has resigned from The Intercept, which he co-founded.

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The same trends of repression, censorship and ideological homogeneity plaguing the national press generally have engulfed the media outlet I co-founded, culminating in censorship of my own articles.

In this excerpt from Greenwald's article, he addresses the claims of establishment media, intelligence operatives, and the Biden campaign regarding the story published by the New York Post .

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First, the claim that the material is of suspect authenticity or cannot be verified -- the excuse used on behalf of Biden by Leslie Stahl and Christiane Amanpour, among others -- is blatantly false for numerous reasons. As someone who has reported similar large archives in partnership with numerous media outlets around the world (including the Snowden archive in 2014 and the Intercept’s Brazil Archive over the last year showing corruption by high-level Bolsonaro officials), and who also covered the reporting of similar archives by other outlets (the Panama Papers, the WikiLeaks war logs of 2010 and DNC/Podesta emails of 2016), it is clear to me that the trove of documents from Hunter Biden’s emails has been verified in ways quite similar to those.

Second, the oft-repeated claim from news outlets and CIA operatives that the published emails and texts were “Russian disinformation” was, from the start, obviously baseless and reckless. No evidence — literally none — has been presented to suggest involvement by any Russians in the dissemination of these materials, let alone that it was part of some official plot by Moscow. As always, anything is possible — when one does not know for certain what the provenance of materials is, nothing can be ruled out — but in journalism, evidence is required before news outlets can validly start blaming some foreign government for the release of information. And none has ever been presented. Yet the claim that this was "Russian disinformation" was published in countless news outlets, television broadcasts, and the social media accounts of journalists, typically by pointing to the evidence-free claims of ex-CIA officials.

Worse is the “disinformation” part of the media’s equation. How can these materials constitute “disinformation” if they are authentic emails and texts actually sent to and from Hunter Biden? The ease with which news outlets that are supposed to be skeptical of evidence-free pronouncements by the intelligence community instead printed their assertions about "Russian disinformation" is alarming in the extreme. But they did it because they instinctively wanted to find a reason to justify ignoring the contents of these emails, so claiming that Russia was behind it, and that the materials were "disinformation," became their placeholder until they could figure out what else they should say to justify ignoring these documents.

Third, the media rush to exonerate Biden on the question of whether he engaged in corruption vis-a-vis Ukraine and Burisma rested on what are, at best, factually dubious defenses of the former Vice President. Much of this controversy centers on Biden's aggressive efforts while Vice President in late 2015 to force the Ukrainian government to fire its Chief Prosecutor, Viktor Shokhin, and replace him with someone acceptable to the U.S., which turned out to be Yuriy Lutsenko. These events are undisputed by virtue of a video of Biden boasting in front of an audience of how he flew to Kiev and forced the Ukrainians to fire Shokhin, upon pain of losing $1 billion in aid.


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The publicly known facts, augmented by the recent emails, texts and on-the-record accounts, suggest serious sleaze by Joe Biden’s son Hunter in trying to peddle his influence with the Vice President for profit. But they also raise real questions about whether Joe Biden knew about and even himself engaged in a form of legalized corruption. Specifically, these newly revealed information suggest Biden was using his power to benefit his son’s business Ukrainian associates, and allowing his name to be traded on while Vice President for his son and brother to pursue business opportunities in China. These are questions which a minimally healthy press would want answered, not buried — regardless of how many similar or worse scandals the Trump family has.


http://greenwald.substack.com/p/article-on-joe-and-hunter-biden-censored

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posted October 29, 2020 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not a Greenwald fan. Disagree with him more often than not.

However, if you can claim a >70 IQ and the smallest shreds of integrity, you will find this story deeply unsettling. We've jumped the shark without doubt and I honestly cant see a way out.

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posted October 29, 2020 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
‘Plausible deniability’: Tony Bobulinski says Joe Biden knew about Hunter Biden’s China deal pursuits

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Hunter Biden’s ex-business partner Tony Bobulinski claimed that Joe Biden’s brother Jim said he and Biden’s son were relying upon “plausible deniability” as they pursued a lucrative deal with a Chinese Communist Party-linked company.

During an hourlong interview with Tucker Carlson of Fox News conducted exactly one week before Election Day, Bobulinski, a Navy veteran, insisted he had firsthand knowledge that the former vice president was aware of the Biden family’s Chinese endeavors, contrary to the 2020 Democratic nominee’s claims.

After meeting with Joe Biden the evening of May 2, 2017, at the Beverly Hills Hilton and then briefly again the following day after the former vice president spoke at the Milken Institute's Global Conference, Bobulinski said on Tuesday that he had a two-hour conversation with Biden’s brother at the Peninsula Hotel. Bobulinski said he thought to himself, “How are they doing this? I know Joe decided not to run in 2016, but what if he ran in the future? Aren't they taking political risk or headline risk? … How are you guys doing this? Aren't you concerned that you're going to put your brother's future presidential campaign at risk? You know, the Chinese, the stuff that you guys have been doing already in 2015 and 2016 around the world?”

Bobulinski said he asked Jim Biden directly, “How are you guys getting away with this? Like, aren't you concerned?”

“He looked at me, and he laughed a little bit and said, ‘Plausible deniability.’ … Anyone watching this interview can look up what plausible deniability, what he means, and the definition is very distinct,” Bobulinski said.



http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/plausible-deniability-tony-bobulinski-says-joe-biden-knew-about-hunter-bidens-china-deal-pursuits

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posted October 29, 2020 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/28/trump-conspiracy-theoryhunter-biden-433131


MAGA scrambles to repair the Hunter Biden narrative
Instead of publishing the more salacious allegations, conservative media has been more focused on covering alleged suppression of the story.

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posted October 29, 2020 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
Not a Greenwald fan. Disagree with him more often than not.

However, if you can claim a >70 IQ and the smallest shreds of integrity, you will find this story deeply unsettling. We've jumped the shark without doubt and I honestly cant see a way out.


If you can claim either one, you would see that there is no story here. That it's more propaganda from con artists.

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posted October 29, 2020 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"alleged suppression"

Keep up the misinformation campaign, Politico. Only five days to go.

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posted October 29, 2020 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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1/2 Breaking: Multiple FBI sources...The FBI investigation into the laptop has been ongoing since December of 2019...there's a lot going on behind the scenes. A lot. There is a massive amount of info.

http://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1318717356474970112

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posted October 29, 2020 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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From multiple agents: "They knew right away it wasn't a Russia operation. It went right to the top of the FBI because a Biden name was attached. That's normal with any well known name. The question that needs asking, why wasn't any info about Russia/Ukraine shared with Congress?"

http://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1318717357313814528

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posted October 29, 2020 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
Not a Greenwald fan. Disagree with him more often than not.

However, if you can claim a >70 IQ and the smallest shreds of integrity, you will find this story deeply unsettling. We've jumped the shark without doubt and I honestly cant see a way out.


Yes, not a discouraging word is to be said about Joe or Hunter Biden...or you just get shut down.

However, the story is out. The question now is whether democrats give a damn that Joe Biden heads a crime family of long standing.

I doubt democrats give a damn about legit news being censored...by newspapers, television networks, social media or internet blogs. I think they cheer that as long as it's not negative news about their clan.

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posted October 29, 2020 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glenn Greenwald appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight discussing the censorship by The Intercept of the Joe & Hunter Biden story.

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This is the real story of the last four years of the Trump Administration, which is that for a long time on the left there was a healthy skepticism of the CIA. There was a lot of anti-war activism in the Bush and Cheney years. That has all disappeared, and the reason it’s disappeared is because the CIA from the very first days of the Trump Administration, even before he was inaugurated, devoted themselves to sabotaging the Administration because Donald Trump questioned just a few of their pieties and that can’t be done in Washington. Whoever does that must be destroyed. And so the CIA and the Deep State operatives became heroes of the liberal left. The people who support the Democratic party, they’re now in a full union with the neocons, the Bush-Cheney operatives, the CIA, Silicon Valley, and Wall Street. That is the union of power, along with mainstream media outlets that are fully behind the Democratic Party, which is likely to at least take over one branch of government if not all of them and that is a very alarming proposition because they’re authoritarian, they believe in censorship and they believe in suppression of information that exposes them in any kind of critical light.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PKpw834nsw

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posted October 29, 2020 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
Glenn Greenwald appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight discussing the censorship by The Intercept of the Joe & Hunter Biden story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PKpw834nsw


Yeah, I watched Tucker Carlson tonight. Imagine being the co-founder of the Intercept and having your legit story squashed.

I'm not a fan of Greenwald but I have to admit he's got guts and left with his integrity intact.

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posted October 29, 2020 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1245387?__twitter_impression=true

Surprise, surprise. Of course trump knows that some of you will believe anything that his people push.

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posted October 30, 2020 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Yeah, I watched Tucker Carlson tonight. Imagine being the co-founder of the Intercept and having your legit story squashed.

I'm not a fan of Greenwald but I have to admit he's got guts and left with his integrity intact.


Although I don't agree with his assessment of President Trump, I respect Greenwald for the qualities you mention.

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posted October 30, 2020 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1245387?__twitter_impression=true

Surprise, surprise. Of course trump knows that some of you will believe anything that his people push.


Sorry but that crap isn't going to fly.

Tony Bobulinski was a business partner of Hunter Biden, Joe Biden and Joe Biden's brothers. He's got the documents, emails and texts messages and they're very incriminating to the Biden Crime Family.

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posted October 30, 2020 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Sorry but that crap isn't going to fly.

Tony Bobulinski was a business partner of Hunter Biden, Joe Biden and Joe Biden's brothers. He's got the documents, emails and texts messages and they're very incriminating to the Biden Crime Family.


Here's an idea: The evidence coming out isn't meant to sway voters, it's setting the stage for what comes after in the President's second term.

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posted October 30, 2020 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
Here's an idea: The evidence coming out isn't meant to sway voters, it's setting the stage for what comes after in the President's second term.

Yep

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posted October 30, 2020 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EXCLUSIVE: NY Post’s ‘Smoking Gun’ Hunter Biden Email 100% Authentic, Forensic Analysis Concludes

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An email Hunter Biden received in April 2015 from a Burisma executive discussing an introduction to then-Vice President Joe Biden, which lies at the heart of a New York Post investigation, is unquestionably authentic, a cybersecurity expert told the Daily Caller News Foundation on Thursday.

Note: Joe Biden has publicly denied any discussions of his son's business.

Tony Bobulinski, a former business partner of the Bidens, stated that the Bidens have been able to avoid any damage to Joe Biden's career by "plausible deniability." Meetings between Joe Biden and Burisma were kept off the record, and Hunter Biden held Joe Biden's share of the cash on his father's behalf, which is why this money is absent from Joe Biden's tax returns.

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The emails that have attracted the most attention refer to an actual meeting of Joe Biden with these foreign figures and one referring to a proposed equity split of “20” for “H” and “10 held by H for the big guy?” Bobulinski confirms that “H” was used for Hunter Biden and that his father was routinely called “the big guy” in these discussions.

Another email Bobulinski being instructed by James Gilliar not to make any mention of the former veep’s involvement: “Don’t mention Joe being involved, it’s only when u [sic] are face to face, I know u [sic] know that but they are paranoid.”


Bobulinski further stated that:

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The Biden family aggressively leveraged the Biden family name to make millions of dollars from foreign entities even though some were from communist controlled China.”

The Biden campaign, Congressman Adam Schiff, and the media claim the story is Russian disinformation. However, both the DNI and the FBI have refuted this claim.

http://dailycaller.com/2020/10/29/cybersecurity-expert-authenticates-hunter-bi den-burisma-email/
http://jonathanturley.org/2020/10/22/witness-joe-biden-was-the-big-guy/

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posted October 30, 2020 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Dhyana & Shura

"The evidence coming out isn't meant to sway voters, it's setting the stage for what comes after in the President's second term."

I wouldn't bet against that.

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posted October 31, 2020 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to one Hunter Biden email, Joe Biden was making key decisions in their family business deals with China.

Hunter Biden:

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Hey TONY I have an idea. In light of the fact we are at an impasse of sorts, and both James’ [Biden] lawyers and my Chairman gave an emphatic NO - I think we should all meet in Romania on Tuesday next week. Zhang will be there and so will the completed agreement if they stick to schedule.

Tucker Carlson:

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When Hunter Biden said “his Chairman,” he was talking about his dad.

Tony Bobulinski:

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Correct. And what Hunter’s referencing there is he spoke with his father and his father is giving an emphatic “no” to the ask that I had, which was putting proper governance in place around Oneida Holdings.”

[Oneida Holdings was one of the shell companies that the Bidens created to partner with CEFC China Energy Company.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8Bo_LmnfaU

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posted October 31, 2020 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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This has NOTHING to do with The Post’s reporting.

1. Neither Hunter nor Joe has disputed the authenticity of the e-mails or the ownership of the laptop.

2. DNI, DOJ and State say our reporting is NOT Russian disinfo.

3. Hunter’s biz partner has confirmed our China e-mails OTR [on the record].

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NBC News
@NBCNews· Oct 29

A 64-page document asserting an elaborate conspiracy theory involving Joe Biden's son and business in China, that was later disseminated by close associates of President Trump, appears to be the work of a fake "intelligence firm."


(1/8) #NBCNewsThreads http://nbcnews.to/3e9Gug9

http://twitter.com/SohrabAhmari/status/1322030634546716673

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posted November 01, 2020 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158542162710552&id=559835551

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