posted November 09, 2020 02:52 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Jwhop, this is when YOU are being the idiot. If someone has cancer and they catch covid, which kills them, the covid still killed them!

You are just choosing to not pay attention, because it isn’t what you want to hear.

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Thanks for your valueless opinion but people who died from gunshot wounds..with covid-19 did not die 'from' covid 19 but their deaths were still listed as covid 19 deaths. Ditto auto accident victims, ditto falling off roofs, ditto electrocutions, ditto just about every other cause of death. If their corpses tested positive for covid 19, they were listed as a covid 19 death.

In reality, less than 10,000 Americans died 'FROM' covid 19.

posted November 09, 2020 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Thanks for your valueless opinion

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Oh, you are too kind. 🥰

posted November 09, 2020 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"In research, a correlation is not the same as causation. And has this study even been replicated? If not, it's preliminary science at best and junk science at worst."

These statistics came from a CDC...Center for Disease Control study.

Leftists...'Listen to the scientists'.

Now, leftists don't want to listen to the scientists because scientific findings shoot their favorite meme in the head. Sad display of hypocrisy.

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Published research can be what's called 'preliminary'. At this point there can be a correlation between two factors or phenomenon, or more, but deeper and repeated research should be conducted to establish a *causal relationship* between said factors.

Quite the opposite of your assertion of not listening to the science, I am trying to explain *how* to listen to the science. Know when you can infer a correlation and when you can infer a causation otherwise you come to premature or out right false conclusions (published research actually does this all the time when there is a political agenda or funder to satisfy). I doubt the CDC is immune to research bias. Reading research is not like reading a newspaper or a novel.

posted November 09, 2020 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
The counties with most covid cases in the country (now), overwhelmingly contain people who are trump supporters. Who voted for him. I meant to post that they other day.

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posted November 09, 2020 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Thanks for your valueless opinion but people who died from gunshot wounds..with covid-19 did not die 'from' covid 19 but their deaths were still listed as covid 19 deaths. Ditto auto accident victims, ditto falling off roofs, ditto electrocutions, ditto just about every other cause of death. If their corpses tested positive for covid 19, they were listed as a covid 19 death.

In reality, less than 10,000 Americans died 'FROM' covid 19.

[b]“This week the CDC quietly updated the Covid number to admit that only 6% of all the 153,504 deaths recorded actually died from Covid That's 9,210 deaths The other 94% had 2-3 other serious illnesses & the overwhelming majority were of very advanced age,”[/B]

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Yeah. The other 94% may have lived had the virus not created addition loads on already struggling systems. We all know that the elderly and those with health conditions are more at risk of mortality from the virus, this doesn't mean it wasn't the virus that killed them.

posted November 09, 2020 04:06 PM            

Yeah, and the cow could have jumped over the moon if only it had thought to strap on a Saturn V rocket.

posted November 09, 2020 04:11 PM            

Quite the opposite of your assertion of not listening to the science, I am trying to explain *how* to listen to the science."

The scientists HAVE SPOKEN. Leave it to the leftist set to say...LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS, then equivocate over what the scientists said.

Wow, gross leftist hypocrisy!

"I do have a master's degree in applied social science though"

posted November 09, 2020 04:20 PM            

10000 versus 100,000 is a big difference -- 10 times the deviation. You are not even close to a country you don't believe in i.e Russia (30,000 deaths).

And I always trusted US doctors and scientists -- no one will blow up the numbers unless they are all involved in some conspiracy.

posted November 09, 2020 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Jwhop, you are dead wrong and delusional. If you believe in US scientists fine. Please accept the "Inconvenient truth". Corona Virus is a reality that is robbing us of our lives. Explain why India reports 120,000 died from the corona virus. An equal number tested positive as that of USA i.e 10 million todate. Todate USA reported 240,000 died from CV. What number will knock your socks off?

10000 versus 100,000 big difference -- 10 times the deviation.

And I always trusted US doctors and scientists -- no one will blow up the numbers unless they are all involved in some conspiracy.

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posted November 09, 2020 04:29 PM            

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Your little 'Golden Boy' and head of the Biden Crime Family says...Trust The Scientists. So, are you arguing with your little China stooge?

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I do. You omit pieces to suit your own convenience. Trump is guilty of murdering 1000s and so are you if you encourage him to not step down.

posted November 09, 2020 05:49 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Published research can be what's called 'preliminary'. At this point there can be a correlation between two factors or phenomenon, or more, but deeper and repeated research should be conducted to establish a *causal relationship* between said factors.

Quite the opposite of your assertion of not listening to the science, I am trying to explain *how* to listen to the science."

The scientists HAVE SPOKEN. Leave it to the leftist set to say...[b]LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS, then equivocate over what the scientists said.

Wow, gross leftist hypocrisy!

"I do have a master's degree in applied social science though"

You think your degree in social science qualifies you to push nonsense relating to epidemiology? Right! Check! [/B]

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Clearly your degree in being hot-headed disqualifies you from being able to read and comprehend the text in front of you...

We were discussing the common error of inferring causation from correlation. This is research methods, not epidemiology. If you don't understand this then you may thank me for saving you some embarrassment next time you think twice about quoting study 'results' to support your argument.

Learn how to read research papers, they can't support your argument if you don't know what they mean.

posted November 09, 2020 07:56 PM            

Clearly, you should get your shiiite together before you come here and try to pass yourself off as someone in the science field related to epidemiology.

posted November 09, 2020 10:11 PM            

Do not be trapped in the Trump mania. He is a psychopath who should be banned from all socia media. You will thank us one day if you were ever to meet or be in a relation with one. Seriously, distributing chocolates and flowers to those who visited him when he was sick? Some of those newagers on youtube are falsely claiming many arrests over the weekend of the cabals and other people who were victims of their crime. It was all bull. Just as the Q anon movement was a scam. Be on alert!

posted November 09, 2020 11:52 PM            

Then why aren't you locked away in a padded cell with only a sliding door slot to receive meals?

"Trump is guilty of murdering 1000s"

posted November 10, 2020 01:09 AM            

Chill bro! Don't take it personal.

posted November 10, 2020 05:06 AM            

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"Clearly your degree in being hot-headed disqualifies you from being able to read and comprehend the text in front of you..."

Clearly, you should get your shiiite together before you come here and try to pass yourself off as someone in the science field related to epidemiology.

Now, if you want to discuss the leftist herd mentality on Twitter or Facebook, I'm all ears.

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I can see you don't understand that certain research methods and principles apply across disciplines, no matter what area your research is investigating. I am most certainly qualified to discuss research methods and principles.

The hypocrisy is all on you this time Jwhop. You have been polarising and accusing others for years of being ignorant, and now here you are, posting research results that you do not know how to interpret and going "la la la la" with your fingers in your ears when someone who does know how to read research results tries to explain it to you.

Your responses confirm that you aren't informed enough to hold this discussion so rather than mock you for it (as you do to others all the time) I'll leave it there.

posted November 10, 2020 07:27 PM            

Joe Biden is not the president elect. Gaslighting Americans is not going to work.

Real Clear Politics has withdrawn Pennsylvania from Biden, which means neither President Trump nor Joe Biden has reached 270.

The results of the election have not been certified.

We'll see who is President on January 20th.

posted November 10, 2020 07:49 PM            

It's like watching someone dancing without rhythm.

Take another sip of the drink or get a double.

Of course the difference here, was a pretend victory to apply pressure to those in opposing positions of decision.

posted November 10, 2020 07:55 PM            

71 million Americans who voted for the President have not accepted Biden as president elect.

The Electoral College has not voted and has not acknowledged Biden as president elect.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence [ODNI] announced it will not work with the Biden transition team unless the GSA announces the winner of the 2020 election.

ODNI - That's a no.

The General Services Administration has not ascertained that Joe Biden is president elect. The GSA is charged by Congress to effect a transfer of power to an incoming administration.

"The Office of Management and Budget is preparing to move forward with Trump’s budget request for next fiscal year in another sign of the White House refusing to acknowledge President-elect Biden’s win"

OMB - No on Biden President elect

The Senate Majority Leader, Mitch McConnell, has not acknowledged Joe Biden as president elect.

"Members of Georgia U.S. House of Representatives Congressional Delegation demand answers from Georgia Secretary of State about allegations of voter irregularities."

Looks like a "no" on Joe Biden president elect.

10 State Attorneys General do not acknowledge Joe Biden as president elect.

Pollster Real Clear Politics does not acknowledge Joe Biden as president elect.

The President of Mexico has not acknowledged Joe Biden as president elect.

posted November 10, 2020 08:02 PM            

Like she won. LOL

But worse, was Joe in na-na-land acting like he was elected.

Like a mental space cadet.

posted November 10, 2020 09:20 PM            

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Pompeo on election results: "There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration"

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