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Dhyana
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posted November 15, 2020 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Nobody is murdering babies."

According to pro choice advocates who call abortion euphemistically "health care."


These 8 States Allow Abortion Up To The Moment Of Birth

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The public has been outraged by a recent slew of state legislatures and Democrat politicians looking to legalize the murder of the unborn up to the moment of birth or, astonishingly, even after birth. Earlier this month, pro-lifers and even many who consider themselves “pro-choice” were horrified to see New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, a Catholic Democrat, sign and celebrate the passing of the euphemistically-named Reproductive Health Act. Aside from legalizing abortion up to the moment of birth, the legislation loosens restrictions on who can perform abortions, and strips the murder of the unborn (including the murder of wanted babies) from the state’s criminal code.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/these-8-states-allow-abortion-moment-birth-amanda-p restigiacomo

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AcousticGod
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posted November 15, 2020 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Outed myself?

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SecretGeek
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posted November 15, 2020 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

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AcousticGod
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posted November 15, 2020 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok

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SecretGeek
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posted November 15, 2020 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 15, 2020 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poor parents have no rights to produce babies if they cannot support them. They are as guilty as the murderers who abort them.

2 husbands or 2 wifes can adopt children if they prove that they will be good parents. And usually the abused is rarely the abuser. Oprah winfrey , a prime example.

Sex is not just for procreation. It is an exchange of two spirits.

Hehe, I am a Pluto in Virgo, people, whose time came to speak their purpose of being born here in existence. But at the same time I must not chose sides and over engage. So will go back to my quiet life.

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posted November 15, 2020 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
"Nobody is murdering babies."

According to pro choice advocates who call abortion euphemistically "health care."


[b]These 8 States Allow Abortion Up To The Moment Of Birth

[QUOTE]The public has been outraged by a recent slew of state legislatures and Democrat politicians looking to legalize the murder of the unborn up to the moment of birth or, astonishingly, even after birth. Earlier this month, pro-lifers and even many who consider themselves “pro-choice” were horrified to see New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, a Catholic Democrat, sign and celebrate the passing of the euphemistically-named Reproductive Health Act. Aside from legalizing abortion up to the moment of birth, the legislation loosens restrictions on who can perform abortions, and strips the murder of the unborn (including the murder of wanted babies) from the state’s criminal code.



http://www.dailywire.com/news/these-8-states-allow-abortion-moment-birth-amanda-p restigiacomo [/B][/QUOTE]

It is health care. I have to go to the store, but I will try to find something later.

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Dhyana
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posted November 15, 2020 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It is health care."

I understand pro choice advocates think this. But to try to proclaim what is true for everyone is authoritarian. It's like being pro choice about abortion, but not about thoughts and beliefs.

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AcousticGod
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posted November 15, 2020 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not everything is about personal opinion/belief.

We have laws specifically for the purpose of having a common moral framework. These laws can be changed if enough people want them to be, but are not changed because of the whims of the minority.

We have not made the opinions of individuals the determining factor in things. That would be authoritarian.

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posted November 15, 2020 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exactly and every state has authority over federal as long it doesn't infringe the fundamental rights of a human being. For hypothetical debates such as whether the baby is alive or dead, there is a way through the supreme court. Also, people are free to migrate to other states if they don't agree with the laws that is if speaking with their senators doesn't work. We are a union. Plenty of choices. We don't have to politicize every issue. Long ago we separated the science based state from a faith based church. Many reds are naive and listen to too much radio.

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posted November 16, 2020 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bet they felt silly celebrating prematurely only to ask for more money so they can win. LOL

If they already won, could they ask for more money ethically and for what purpose?

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In which they admit the election is not over.

"Your donation is critical to electing Joe, Kamala..."

posted 11/15/2020 3:07 p.m.
http://twitter.com/DrDannielle/status/1328208639652466689

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posted November 16, 2020 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The election was never over.

It was all an orchestrated effort to make it look like they won.

A psychological operation.

Of course, we will find out Trump won in a landslide.

And no, it won't be a surprise.

And no, I won't ride the naysayers because they were gullible.

If anything, it's an embarrassment to our country that scammers could get as far as they did.

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posted November 16, 2020 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only people talking of elections now are you people. Democrats won. Accept it.

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SecretGeek
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posted November 16, 2020 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's funny. LOL

"falsely claiming to be presidential elect".

I mean, we already knew it, but funny they're realizing it.

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In case you're confused....

CONGRESS made an official statement THERE IS NO PRESIDENT ELECT AS OF NOW!

Which means JOE BIDEN, is falsely claiming to be president elect. The MEDIA, is falsely confirming a president elect.

Congress has made it official.

http://twitter.com/LawDog323/status/1328145585279365121

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SecretGeek
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posted November 16, 2020 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Letter from House of Congress dated 11/13/2020 not to let the pretenders claim they won the election.

Don't you feel sorry for all the gullible folks believing the fake news of mainstream media?

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http://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/20 20/11/Letter-to-GSA-re-Transition-final-11.13.20-1.pdf

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posted November 16, 2020 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
"It is health care."

I understand pro choice advocates think this. But to try to proclaim what is true for everyone is authoritarian. It's like being pro choice about abortion, but not about thoughts and beliefs.


Pro-choice is just that - choice. So if someone doesn't believe in abortion, they just choose not to have an abortion. If someone does, then they do.

Both people get to choose to what they believe to be right. And no one is telling anyone else what to do.

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Dhyana
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posted November 16, 2020 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Pro-choice is just that - choice. So if someone doesn't believe in abortion, they just choose not to have an abortion. If someone does, then they do.

Both people get to choose to what they believe to be right. And no one is telling anyone else what to do.


I was responding to the poster who seems to make statements as if they are categorical truths. I'm also talking about the law. I'd like to see the government out of this issue entirely.

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posted November 16, 2020 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
I'm also talking about the law. I'd like to see the government out of this issue entirely.


So you don't think that what can amount to a minor surgical procedure, with risks (after 8 weeks gestation, I think) should be regulated?

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Dhyana
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posted November 16, 2020 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So you don't think that what can amount to a minor surgical procedure, with risks (after 8 weeks gestation, I think) should be regulated?

V, I notice you ask good questions. It's something I hadn't thought of and will. Thanks.

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Dhyana
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posted November 16, 2020 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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CONGRESS made an official statement THERE IS NO PRESIDENT ELECT AS OF NOW!

Which means JOE BIDEN, is falsely claiming to be president elect. The MEDIA, is falsely confirming a president elect.

Congress has made it official.



Attorney General, Bill Barr, met with
Mitch McConnell.

Gina Haspel, Director of the CIA, met with Mitch McConnell.

Mitch McConnell has not recognized Biden as President elect.

Interesting.

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posted November 16, 2020 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Getting on national TV and acting like you were elected the President of the USA because the media says you were, has to be one of most embarrassing things a person can do their entire life.

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posted November 16, 2020 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
V, I notice you ask good questions. It's something I hadn't thought of and will. Thanks.


It's one of those topics where there is just so much to consider. And you're right, there is no one answer that is suitable for every situation. Maybe a case-by-case basis would be a good approach (in terms of legislation and regulation), rather than a blanket yay or nay.

Thank you for not perceiving my questions as a challenge Dhyana, I respect that. I'm 38 years old and still asking "why?"

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posted November 16, 2020 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AcousticGod:
We have not made the opinions of individuals the determining factor in things.

The left is doing it. Big tech is doing it. BLM and Antifa are trying to do it by force through violence and intimidation. Oh wait, DNC media doesn't report it so it doesn't happen.

The left media is trying to do it by calling the winner of the Presidential Election, which they are not authorized to do.

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posted November 16, 2020 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t know if President Trump will be successful, but I’d he is, imagine the liberal tears that will flow after thinking Biden already won it. It will make 2016 look like a happy celebration for the left.

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posted November 16, 2020 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
"It is health care."

I understand pro choice advocates think this. But to try to proclaim what is true for everyone is authoritarian. It's like being pro choice about abortion, but not about thoughts and beliefs.


Would you prefer that women die? Are their lost lives acceptable, when they try to do something to abort?

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