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SecretGeek
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posted November 14, 2020 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From the same reference as the previous post.

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"Trump is the first sitting president to visit the Western Wall, Judaism’s most hallowed site, in Jerusalem — Israel’s capital, to which he relocated America’s embassy from Tel Aviv."

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posted November 14, 2020 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
There are extremists and zealots in all groups. That's human nature.

Interesting Pennsylvania was where the deadliest attack occurred.

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The shooter killed eleven people and wounded six. It was the deadliest attack on the Jewish community in the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting#Suspect

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posted November 14, 2020 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
Not according to the teachings and of one highly respected teacher of Gnosticism I know and respect. And not according to my own experience growing up in a Christian community.



I'm referencing traditional, orthodox teaching.

The malevolent, or at least misguided, nature of the Demiurge is a core tenet of Gnosticism. Meanwhile, matter redeemed through the incarnation of Christ is basic Christianity.

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posted November 14, 2020 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elton John's lyrics of Philadelphia Freedom song in 1975:

45 years ago along with Trump being the 45th President.

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'Cause I live and breathe this Philadelphia freedom
From the day that I was born I've waved the flag
Philadelphia freedom took me knee high to a man
Mm mm, gave me a piece of mama, daddy never had

Oh Philadelphia freedom, shine on me, I love you
Shine the light, through the eyes of the ones left behind
Shine the light, shine the light
Shine the light, won't you shine the light
Philadelphia freedom, I love-ve-ve you, yes I do
http://www.songfacts.com/lyrics/elton-john/philadelphia-freedom

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posted November 14, 2020 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Philly's Liberty Bell.

"Proclaim LIBERTY Throughout all the Land unto all the Inhabitants..."

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Philadelphia's city bell had been used to alert the public to proclamations or civic danger since the city's 1682 founding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Bell#Founding_(1751%E2%80%931753)

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posted November 14, 2020 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Interesting Pennsylvania was where the deadliest attack occurred.


Why?

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posted November 14, 2020 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Why?

Because of the prophecy in the first post.

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posted November 14, 2020 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting President Trump has a course there.

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TRUMP NATIONAL PHILADELPHIA COURSE INFORMATION

Par 71
7,409 yards from championship tees
75.3/153 Course & Slope Rating from championship tees
6 sets of tee boxes
365 acres
Bent grass greens, tees and fairways
36,000 square foot Kentucky Blue grass two-tiered practice area with target greens
Large putting greens
Two chipping and bunker practice areas with target greens
Maple, oak, walnut and pine trees
Secluded, tree-lined, water in play on 5th, 14th, and 15th holes
http://www.trumpnationalphiladelphia.com/Default.aspx?p=dynamicmodule&pageid=100107&ssid=100122&vnf=1

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posted November 14, 2020 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"...as far as I know, among Christians, excluding Gnostics, that is a commonly held belief that the body is evil."

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It is the Gnostics, not the Christians, who believe all matter is irredeemable.

We can agree to disagree on that.

The Gnostic teachings that I am familiar with regard incarnation in human form as ultimately liberative, and thus the lower nature is not irredeemable.

quote:
I'm referencing traditional, orthodox teaching.

I gather you're talking about orthodox Christianity. Gnosticism isn't orthodox.

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The malevolent, or at least misguided, nature of the Demiurge is a core tenet of Gnosticism.

Yes. Are you equating the Demiurge with irredeemable matter? If not, it's not clear to me why you're bringing it up.

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Meanwhile, matter redeemed through the incarnation of Christ is basic Christianity.

It looks like when you say "matter" you're talking about what in other words is referred to as the "lower nature." That's a significant difference between Gnosticism and orthodox Christianity. Gnostics view the liberation - or what you call the redemption - of the soul through direct experience of God.


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posted November 14, 2020 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Because of the prophecy in the first post.

That is thought provoking.

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posted November 15, 2020 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SecretGeek:
Because of the prophecy in the first post.

Not one word of that 'prophecy' evidences an attack in Philadelphia.

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posted November 15, 2020 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Not one word of that 'prophecy' evidences an attack in Philadelphia.


The attack was my reference.

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posted November 16, 2020 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"How do you reconcile one aspect of the Bible like comparing Trump to King Solomon while ignoring that Trump's Son-in-Law owns the
666 address in 5th Avenue New York, purchased for 1800 Million dollars [6+6+6 = 18] ?"


You can't. A psychopath has blinded everyone
with his mercury in Gemini and a Mars ascended. They all must be secretly amusing the naivety of his supporters. I doubt if any one reads the bible at all. If they did. They won't allow Trump to put his hands on the bible floating around since Lincolns time. Perhaps Trump wanted to vile it intentionally. Trump has paid many people to become the president of the USA. SOme day the cats will be out of the bag. Hope it won't be too late and Trump's scorch earth policy is unsuccessful.

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Dhyana
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posted November 16, 2020 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OT...sort of

SecretGeek, if you have time and are willing, would you please talk about the teachings on the Anti-Christ. What or who is the Anti-Christ? I may not remember correctly, but I believe this is discussed in Revelations?

And also, is this relevant at this moment in human history?

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posted November 16, 2020 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not my expertise.

But I know the basics.

I know a little about possession and exorcism.


This is a good tool I use.

If you'd like an opinion of the scripture interpretation, I'd be happy to.
http://www.openbible.info/topics/antichrist

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posted November 16, 2020 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGeek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"And also, is this relevant at this moment in human history?"

It could be but it goes both ways.

Like waiting for Christ to come back in person.

No one knows except the Father when it will be.

So it's not a very efficient use of time and energy, unless specializing in the area.

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posted November 16, 2020 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SG - I see. I'm sure the answers will come.

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