posted November 23, 2020 02:59 PM            

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In order to not make covid an endless saga for the whole world, we need to start looking at this virus from a different perspective, from the perspective of the TERRAIN (meaning our bodies & the regenerative power of our bodies) and the IMMUNE SYSTEM (whose job it is to handle pathogens), rather than looking outward to our environment from the point of view of the PATHOGEN, meaning that there's a killer virus out there trying to kill us. This is the wrong message being put out by public health officials. The health of our terrain is more important, bc we're constantly surrounded by so called pathogens. Sensible precautions MUST include boosting our own bodies to make them less easily susceptible to our environment, this is where the focus needs to shift. Why are tony & the others not talking abt how we can boost our immunity?

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Very well said Linda. Completely agree. I think the reason why Japan as been doing so well despite their very high percentage of elderly population, is not because of masks and cultural differences (Chinese are far more similar to them in these areas than Americans etc), is because they are on average, a healthier peoples than many other nations--especially Americans.

America does have some very healthy people, but the majority are not anywhere close. This is the Uranian land of extremes par excellence.

Chinese are also not very healthy people on a whole either, partly because of pollution, stress, but also poverty and a cultural tendency to view "anything" as food. Yet, ironically, many were already wearing masks because of pollution reasons when Covid initially appeared there. Wuhan area has some of the worst air pollution in the world. And having an aunt who was born in China, I tell tell you that their culture though different than Japanese in some respects, is far more similar in a general social sense to Japan, than it is to American or even general western. Much more collective minded than Americans.

There are holes in the mainstream narrative big enough to drive a Mac truck through. I wish we would de-politicize this issue, and come together as the non billionaires and trillionaires who are being f'ed around with by that group of ultra rich.

But, they want us caught up in left right bickering. And caught up most are, while they laugh on the way to the banks that they or their cronies own/run.

posted November 23, 2020 03:36 PM            

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The public fighting over the mask issue has been instigated to mask the actual truth abt 5G killing more people with covid. The telecom industry (also minions of the elite) don't want anyone to focus on this, so they're diverting evyone's attention to squabbling abt masks

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5G is going to ruin people's health, by destroying immunity. The radiation frequency is just way too harmful for the body to handle. There will be more cases of cancer cropping up, more money & business for big pharma...big pharma has already done predictive programming abt this (to mentally prepare people for what's going to happen next) by saying that one in 2 will end up getting cancer. This type of programming makes people mentally resign themselves to the future of ill health.

posted November 23, 2020 04:23 PM            

The thing about that is, if it was more about harm than just profit and technology development, chances are the plutocrats themselves wouldn't want to expose themselves to it either.

posted November 23, 2020 08:46 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Quite possible Linda. Don't really know enough about the topic to have an opinion and belief on it yet. I do know that there has been some research that indicates it does to tend to have harmful effects.

The thing about that is, if it was more about harm than just profit and technology development, chances are the plutocrats themselves wouldn't want to expose themselves to it either.

I try to remain open minded but skeptical to all sources of information.

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Fair enough, Galactic. To help you get started on your research on this topic, i just started a new thread here -
. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum26/HTML/005238.html

posted November 23, 2020 10:47 PM            

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Healthy young people, have become very sick from this. Also very dead.

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Back in the day when I was following all this stuff more closely, I had noticed that some independent journalists and researchers had debunked some of the high profile mainstream media cases of relatively young and "healthy" people who had gotten Covid and died with same.

Don't remember specifics anymore, but one was a professional soccer player who died with Covid. Turned out that he had undiagnosed leukemia. Another case was supposedly of a baby girl, but turned out that it was a very old lady. These should have been fact checked by the media, but they're going for maximum fear and sensationalism.

Wasn't it CBS who was caught red handed trying to pass off northern Italy hospital footage for New York City hospital footage? You trust these sources to tell you the full truth all the time?

It's also a mistake to assume that just because someone looks relatively ok and is relatively young, that they are "healthy". Truth of the matter is, in America at least, there are many, many, many rather unhealthy people.

I'm friends with a lot of more conscious, progressive, and more older Soul types. Lots of artists, musicians, teachers, etc and many of these with spiritual beliefs, experiences, etc. A lot of these folks eat better than the average American, but even in many of their cases, I'm sometimes surprised when they say things like, "I eat pretty healthy" or something akin to that.

Certainly not by my definition! (I don't usually say that, usually I don't say anything.)

Health is a very relative and subjective thing. I suspect there are relatively few people that are truly, fully healthy in a very holstic sense that takes into account the body, mind, and soul. Even with all the discipline, focus, and energy I put into my health, I cannot say that I'm truly and fully healthy. I wouldn't still have a bit of psoriasis if I was. There is still some sort of imbalance going on.

But back in March, I started to get Covid like symptoms, just ate more alkaline forming and less food, meditated, and walked outside, and literally within 1.5 days I was completely over all symptoms. I'm not old by any means, but neither am I a spring chicken anymore.

Teasel, it would be very helpful for you to accept the harsh truth that this world is not run by the "good guys", but by the opposite types. All the ahole men like your BIL that you have mentioned--they don't hold a candle to the men with the most wealth, power, and influence in this world. These people do not wish you and me well whatsoever. Many are on the ASPD spectrum.

I'm extremely intuitive and sensitive especially to peoples vibes and energy. So many of these people that I have tuned into give me the creeps.

There are well respected psychologists out there that are on record for saying that psychopathic type people gravitate most to positions of extreme power and wealth because they so get off on that control and power dynamic. One such researcher that has talked about this observed, repeating, historical pattern is Dr. Robert Hare who is one of the foremost researchers of the ASPD spectrum, and besides having written a few books, he has also been consulted for documentaries like "The Corporation" and others along similar lines.

I know this is a bitter pill to swallow, but its a very necessary one to consciously realize and accept.

You focus on the very obvious ones like Trump, who probably even isn't really a full psychopath (he's more towards the narcissistic end of the spectrum--more accurately probably a malignant narcissist [has some sociopathic like tendencies and traits but not fully on the spectrum]). But a lot of psychopaths and sociopaths are ANYTHING but obvious and overt. They often seem like "normal" and "nice" people on the surface. They are good at acting, mimicking, and fitting in.

You have considerable psychic-intuitive potential--you really should use it more to tune in deeper to people and world situations. I mean, do you really get healthy, loving, fast vibratory vibes from people like Hillary Clinton, Fauci, and the like? Now think about the people that are far, far, far wealthier and more powerful than these more public figures.

Here's a picture of David Rockefeller: http://www.dw.com/en/legendary-banker-david-rockefeller-dies-at-101/a-38029486

What kind of vibe do you get from him? Many have called him a "philanthropist".

Here's a pic of his father John D: http://www.history.com/news/john-d-rockefeller-father-con-man-origins

What kind of vibe do you get from him?

Don't know about you, but I get very cold, very creepy, very psychopathic vibes from these guys. It's these kinds of people that have the most power and influence in this world. John D. for example was the first American Billionaire. His corporation Standard Oil, got so big, so controlling, that the Federal Government stepped in and broke it up some.

I don't think you're a naive or unintelligent person Teasel--I just think that you could look deeper and more intuitively than you tend to. But I think one of the reasons why you don't fully, is because it's uncomfortable. On a subconscious level you figure you got enough on your plate without becoming fully open to the horror of this world.

That is understandable. Most people are in that same boat. But if this world is ever to heal and change for the better, we really, really, really need to become more aware of how influenced and controlled we are by psychopathic type people like the two Rockefeller folks mentioned above.

posted November 24, 2020 04:51 AM            

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First a quick note to say that i didn't post the hot mic link to feed into the politicization of the issue. Covid is beyond politics, as i've said before, that's why, we all need to go past the politics to see even begin to see things clrealy.

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I posted the hot mic link bc the ones exerting the control immediately above humans are the political minions. They're in the know abt why they're mandating masks for evyone. And they (along with other prominent public figures) are they only ones who can get "caught" going against their own narrative.

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For example bill gates, the self appointed world health czar, & his wife have both said that absolutely everyone must wear masks. Yet there's no photo yet of bill wearing a mask. The 94 yr old queen herself stepped out with her family, with none of them wearing masks, i'm sure you must know abt this. Their excuse was that they all tested negative. If that's the criterion for mask wearing, then why is it that the whloe world has to wear it whether or not they test positive? Is it a case of "do as i say, but not as i do"?

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The reason this mask study is important is bc it's the first *randomized* trial & randomized trials are accepted in the scientific community as being more accurate. The NIH mask report i posted was not a randomized study, but it does give an indication toward the leaning on the issue, specially when you see them burying it way down in their report

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[The 14 studies Todd referred to are possibly studies registered w the NIH, but not necessarily funded by the NIH or conducted by the NIH. I haven't done the search but i know the last time i chkd, various trials, mostly done on the flu virus & not covid had been registered on the NIH site. Anyone can register their trial. But these are smaller trials]

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The other important thing to note is that a META-ANALYSIS of at least 5 to 7 different *published* covid mask studies wld provide more conclusive evidence. But such studies, if at all funded (the majority of large study funding is now controlled by the NIH & this is worldwide)...are not easily published at all bc the elite control many of the science journal publications. Studies that support big pharma products are readily published. That's why this danish study was rejected several times before being accepted by the Annals of Int Med (i'm pretty sure they had to change the wording in order to get accepted). Unfortunately, this is what science has been reduced to now...i call it "scientism", not science

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Now, without addressing your individual points abt the danish study (i'll get back to that), let's accept that the results of the danish study are inconclusive. This wld show clearly that there's no scientific basis for the enforcement of masks on everyone, bc there's no *conclusive* scientific data to support it.

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Your other points abt transmission are v valid. I do want to point out that aerosolized virus can stay suspended for 25-30 feet, so the 6 feet social distancing rule seems a bit mindless...unless you scratch under the surface & realize that 6 feet is how much people need to stay aoart in order to be surveilled from satellites...then that distance suddenly doesn't seem mindless after all

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[b]"I've yet to see any actual evidence that masks when used correctly actually increase the risk of transmission."
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This wld require a large scale extremely monitored trial, which of course hasn't been done on covid. Surgical masks are meant for single wear omly, without being touched. That is the only correct way to wear them. Tony foxy knows that people are walking around touching their masks all day long, yet he keeps insisting that people shld wear them. People are even being told to wash their masks & reuse them, which again is ridiculous & pointless bc they're no longer sterile.

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Nothing is 100% effective for reducing transmission in isolation, but putting all measures together (including masks) means there is a better chance to reduce the transmission."
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This is true. However, is this approach really sustainable? And for how long? There are reports that people will be expected to continue with masks & social distancing even *after* they've taken the covid vax. Can people really live in isolated bubbles? And what is the trade off? Depression, anxiety, & other mental disorders? Is it worth it in the long run when the mortality of the virus is only 1% or less? Bc we are vitalized & re-vitalized through close physical contact with others. This is a biological fact. It adds to our sense of well being, which in turn reduces infections & diseases.

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In order to not make covid an endless saga for the whole world, we need to start looking at this virus from a different perspective, from the perspective of the TERRAIN (meaning our bodies & the regenerative power of our bodies) and the IMMUNE SYSTEM (whose job it is to handle pathogens), rather than looking outward to our environment from the point of view of the PATHOGEN, meaning that there's a killer virus out there trying to kill us. This is the wrong message being put out by public health officials. The health of our terrain is more important, bc we're constantly surrounded by so called pathogens. Sensible precautions MUST include boosting our own bodies to make them less easily susceptible to our environment, this is where the focus needs to shift. Why are tony & the others not talking abt how we can boost our immunity?

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I'll post information on this on another thread. In order to understand the terrain, we have to go back to the GERM THEORY, which as taught in schools, including med schools, is wrong. This is the Rockefeller influenced garbage people have been taught. It benefits big pharma but not the health of the public. More on this later...[/B]

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The problem with 'inconclusive' results such as these Linda is that it is just as likely that masks are effective as it is they are not.

The question for the people is, until we have conclusive results one way or another, do we want to throw caution to the wind or err on the side of caution? That's a personal decision.

The authorities are erring on the side of caution, as the public will scream "off with their heads!" if it does transpire that masks can reduce transmission even slightly. People who become seriously ill or lose a loved one will question why governments did not risk-manage, even by encouraging mask use which MAY mitigate some of the transmission risk.

posted November 24, 2020 07:28 AM            

2. N-95 Masks are excellent in closed indoor Air conditioned situations, provided there is an "Oxygen" Break every 30-40 minutes where people can step out to a balcony etc and refresh the lungs without the Masks.

3. Masks are dangerous for people with weak lungs, such folk should avoid masks and consider Face Shields that prevent virus-laden moisture from reaching their face, and yet breathe well. My friend's doctor is very popular in Chennai, she is a senior citizen as well, uses Face Shields and Gloves. She treats almost 50 patients a day, has not taken a break in the Pandemic.

4. Maximizing Immunity is better than gloves and N-95 Masks. Vitamin D included.
Even Blood Group A people can escape if they consume more Vitamin D along with C and Anti-Oxidant Riboflavinoids.