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Topic: The Attack On Churches
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Randall
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From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate.
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posted November 24, 2020 10:49 PM
  
In CA, strip clubs can remain open, but churches can’t. One church is defying this and being fined every Sunday. In NV, casinos can allow more people than churches can (only 50). The free exercise of religion is the most fundamental right we have. It’s time to resist. IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted November 24, 2020 11:20 PM
You can't compare the size of churches with bars. Bars has fewer number of people and social distancing can be easily implemented. Also Church members can meet online. The services are really non essential. They can worship kneeling on the floors of their home. Bar members can't drink online  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 25, 2020 12:45 AM
Did I say anything about bars? Bars are closing down. I said strip clubs and casinos. Strip clubs were allowed to remain open based on a First Amendment free expression argument. If that is strong enough to defeat a “compelling government interest,” then so does religious freedom. You can’t pick out pieces of the First Amendment.IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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From: Sound
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted November 25, 2020 04:53 AM
Sigh. It is decisions such as these that confuse the public and make personal decision-making more complicated than it needs to be.IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted November 25, 2020 11:19 AM
I have yet to see any strip clubs without bars.
And why are we comparing , religious amendment with the first?Are you suggesting the Elites are suggesting stop worshipping your Gods. They are the new Gods on whose mercy we all live. WOrship them and the system? Many jobless and broke desperate to survive. Many can't keep their homes . Hence I was against Fascism in the first place. The president invites American companies to make vaccines. But cannot invite American companies to make vote counting machines? Give me a break. Election has been stolen since ages. The Elites determines who keeps stability in the world and decides the next prez. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 25, 2020 12:30 PM
Allow me to educate you. Just because a strip club has a bar doesn’t make it a bar. It is a strip club. Just like a restaurant might serve alcohol, but it is not a bar. Further, many strip clubs do not serve alcohol. Depending upon the state, strippers cannot get fully nude if alcohol is served. The argument is that it is a form of artistic expression and thus free speech. The comparison that you seem to be lacking context in is that free speech and freedom of religion are both contained in the First Amendment. IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted November 25, 2020 11:25 PM
I heard of a case where church members got around this by holding services in a casino.  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 25, 2020 11:41 PM
One minister stripped off his tie to music.IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted November 26, 2020 01:33 PM
Well , in New York, the supreme court concurs with you and struck down on restrictions. California will follow it I hope.Seriously ,strip club is a form of artistic expression? So why did the republican mayor in new york city ( I believe it was Giuliani) who shutdown male nudity clubs? Many democrats are ****** since . IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 26, 2020 02:27 PM
It depends on the state. Strippers sued in GA when legislators tried to eliminate all nude dancing. They won under the First Amendment. Then legislators took away liquor licenses unless they wore pasties and g-strings.IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted November 26, 2020 04:31 PM
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BREAKING: Supreme Court votes 5-4 to grant Catholic Diocese and orthodox Jews' request to block Gov. Cuomo's attendance limits at houses of worship in New York. Chief Justice Roberts joins the three liberal justices in dissent.
http://twitter.com/stevenmazie/status/1331826974432649218 IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted November 26, 2020 04:46 PM
Roberts is a real piece of work. IP: Logged |
Dhyana
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posted November 29, 2020 02:21 PM
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Justice Gorsuch: "there is no world in which the Constitution tolerates color-coded executive edicts that reopen liquor stores and bike shops but shutter churches, synagogues, and mosques.”
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teasel
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 30, 2020 11:41 PM
http://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10225327876886614&id=1313876405 IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
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posted December 01, 2020 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by teasel:
http://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10225327876886614&id=1313876405
I smell a rat. Just doesn’t seem genuine. That’s why social media is so bad for influencing people, on both sides of the fence. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted December 01, 2020 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
I smell a rat. Just doesn’t seem genuine.That’s why social media is so bad for influencing people, on both sides of the fence.
Their account was suspended, but I’ve seen things like this from others who were genuine. I look these things up, when I’m not having to do something else. I’m wary, too. Not as easily influenced as some might think. IP: Logged |
iQ
Moderator Posts: 6169
From: Lyra
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 01, 2020 06:36 AM
I am quite an avid reader of the Bible, and respect Gnostic Christianity a lot [derived from early Christians harassed as Heretics by the Catholic Church]There is just no mandate from Scripture to pack and fill Churches, especially during a Pandemic. If this is construed as an attack on Churches/Mosques/Synagogues, then such Churches/Mosques/Synagogues are attacking Humanity. This is Mischief to spread more COVID19 using religion as an excuse. South Dakota and North Dakota are a wake up call. Those two Deep Scarlet States are suffering beyond average despite wide open spaces and sparse population density and months to prepare. If Orthodox Mecca and Medina Mosques can make adjustments, then other places of Worship can adjust too for a few months. IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
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posted December 01, 2020 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Their account was suspended, but I’ve seen things like this from others who were genuine. I look these things up, when I’m not having to do something else. I’m wary, too. Not as easily influenced as some might think.
That’s cool. It was a general observation.
I just think that it’s so easy for people to put out misinformation on social media. Subsequently, I see both parties bringing it into these forums. It’s messy.
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teasel
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posted December 01, 2020 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
That’s cool. It was a general observation. I just think that it’s so easy for people to put out misinformation on social media. Subsequently, I see both parties bringing it into these forums. It’s messy.
A follow-up: http://twitter.com/naima/status/1333761817919836161
http://twitter.com/alinwillowland Do you think she's real? IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
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posted December 01, 2020 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
A follow-up: http://twitter.com/naima/status/1333761817919836161
http://twitter.com/alinwillowland Do you think she's real?
Not sure to be honest teasel, I’m pretty indifferent to these sorts of things over social media. Your first link: the first few replies were appalling, that’s as far as I got.
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