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Topic: More Hypocrite "Leaders"
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Randall
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From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate.
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posted December 03, 2020 04:50 PM
  
Sheila Kuehl, of the LA County Board of Supervisors that banned all outdoor dining, was caught eating at one the same day she said this: "It's a bit of magical thinking on everyone's part to think that at any restaurant anywhere the server keeps a six foot distance from the table where he or she is taking an order. So the servers are not protected from us. So it is a most dangerous situation for them."IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 03, 2020 05:04 PM
Another one is Austin mayor, Steve Adler. He told his citizens over the internet: "Stay home. The is not the time to relax." At the time, he was in relaxing in Cabo. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 03, 2020 10:29 PM
Yeah, there has been a lot of these cases of "rules for thee, but not for me" amongst politicians, celebrities, etc. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 03, 2020 11:50 PM
A Dallas county judge, Clay Jenkins, who put in a mask order that another local judge used to put people in jail for not wearing a mask was caught appearing in a wedding not wearing a mask. Another judge in a county next to Dallas, Glen Whittley, said you should only spend Thanksgiving with immediate family, but he had lots of cars parked in his driveway, including an RV, that a neighbor took pics of. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 04, 2020 01:15 AM
Probably nobody takes the cake more than Neil Ferguson of the UK. He is a scientist that was part of the team that came out with the 2.2 million to die early projection statistic. He was also previously involved with scare mongering in relation to H1N1 and SARS, and hyper exaggerated these threats. Considering how off he/they were about these, hard to take them seriously as "scientists". Anyways, during the height of pandemic panic and lockdown in Britain, he had his lover come over for some adult time. Problem with that was that she has a husband and at least one child, and he thought he had came into contact with SARS-CoV-2 in the relatively recent past. As is often astutely said, actions often speak louder than words. He spoke rather loudly about his real thoughts and feelings about this "super dangerous threat", with these actions. Fear is the favored and most effective way for the plutocrats to control, prod, and manipulate the unwashed masses. Fear induced stress weakens a person on every level. It retards both one's logical faculties and one's intuitive sense. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 04, 2020 04:14 AM
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Probably nobody takes the cake more than Neil Ferguson of the UK. He is a scientist that was part of the team that came out with the 2.2 million to die early projection statistic. He was also previously involved with scare mongering in relation to H1N1 and SARS, and hyper exaggerated these threats. Considering how off he/they were about these, hard to take them seriously as "scientists". Anyways, during the height of pandemic panic and lockdown in Britain, he had his lover come over for some adult time. Problem with that was that she has a husband and at least one child, and he thought he had came into contact with SARS-CoV-2 in the relatively recent past. As is often astutely said, actions often speak louder than words. He spoke rather loudly about his real thoughts and feelings about this "super dangerous threat", with these actions. Fear is the favored and most effective way for the plutocrats to control, prod, and manipulate the unwashed masses. Fear induced stress weakens a person on every level. It retards both one's logical faculties and one's intuitive sense.
That's not entirely accurate Galactic. The report looked at different scenarios and tried to predict mortality in each. A prediction of 500,000 deaths was given in the scenario that no measures were taken to manage COVID-19. The 'worst case scenario' prediction is not uncommon in this context, but it IS questionable whether it is truly helpful to disseminate this, because the media will always hijack this information to sell papers through panicking the public (and possibly twisting the information). Here is a fact-check which explains it in more detail: quote:
The report team produced a model which showed predicted fatalities from Covid-19 if different measures were put in place. The model estimated that if no measures were put in place, deaths over the next two years could reach more than 500,000. This was not a prediction of how many people would die from coronavirus in the UK.
http://theferret.scot/fact-check-neil-ferguson-covid-19-predictions/
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teasel
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posted December 04, 2020 07:31 AM
Leaders shouldn’t be telling us one thing, and doing something else, but this still doesn’t make trump and his lot any better, Randall. McConnell especially. None of them care about us. They thought it was fine to have no national mandates on covid, just as long as democrats were dying (democratically-led cities, when they were begging trump to do something). Trump’s lot have a lot of blood on their hands. IP: Logged |
Belage
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 04, 2020 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Probably nobody takes the cake more than Neil Ferguson of the UK. He is a scientist that was part of the team that came out with the 2.2 million to die early projection statistic. He was also previously involved with scare mongering in relation to H1N1 and SARS, and hyper exaggerated these threats. Considering how off he/they were about these, hard to take them seriously as "scientists". Anyways, during the height of pandemic panic and lockdown in Britain, he had his lover come over for some adult time. Problem with that was that she has a husband and at least one child, and he thought he had came into contact with SARS-CoV-2 in the relatively recent past. As is often astutely said, actions often speak louder than words. He spoke rather loudly about his real thoughts and feelings about this "super dangerous threat", with these actions. Fear is the favored and most effective way for the plutocrats to control, prod, and manipulate the unwashed masses. Fear induced stress weakens a person on every level. It retards both one's logical faculties and one's intuitive sense.
I agree with every word.
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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 04, 2020 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
I agree with every word.
And thank you for the information Voix. I'll look into it more deeply. Do we at least agree that his actions were mighty hypocritical considering his public stance and the constant, heavy beating of the fear drums?
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Randall
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posted December 04, 2020 03:48 PM
Actually, Dems said they didn't want President Trump's help. When he went in to protect our federal court house, he was called a dictator.IP: Logged |
astri
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posted December 08, 2020 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Leaders shouldn’t be telling us one thing, and doing something else, but this still doesn’t make trump and his lot any better, Randall. McConnell especially. None of them care about us. They thought it was fine to have no national mandates on covid, just as long as democrats were dying (democratically-led cities, when they were begging trump to do something). Trump’s lot have a lot of blood on their hands.
I second that. Trump is a monster, a misogynist and a racist and this video is the ultimate proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXYtX1oZt30
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teasel
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posted December 08, 2020 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by astri:
I second that. Trump is a monster, a misogynist and a racist and this video is the ultimate proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXYtX1oZt30
You’re a Trump supporter. Let’s see you dig up something good about Biden. (I don’t need to click the link. I know what to expect.) Mr. “it is what it is” when it comes to the lives lost from covid, and “if you take away the blue states, we’re doing fine” trump, you defend. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 08, 2020 12:20 PM
That was a true statement. If you take away the blue states, the economy is doing great.IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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From: Sound
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 08, 2020 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
And thank you for the information Voix. I'll look into it more deeply. Do we at least agree that his actions were mighty hypocritical considering his public stance and the constant, heavy beating of the fear drums?
In terms of disseminating worst-case scenario information, that's standard and doesn't tell us anything about him specifically. It is questionable how helpful this is, but equally, many members of the public would want to know, so it's a difficult one. As to his personal conduct RE meeting his lover, I haven't seen this story. If true, of course that is unacceptable and he should be subject to disciplinary procedures considering his position in terms of upholding public trust. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 08, 2020 02:40 PM
This is a bit of a deeper dive than what you shared earlier--it seems like he has a bit of a "history" so to speak: http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/a pril/21/covid-19-neil-ferguson-the-liberal-lyssenko/ After his hypocrisy indiscretions became public knowledge, he resigned. The point of bringing it up is not to double flog him, but to point to a larger pattern that is becoming noticeable where a lot of people in the public strongly advocating one thing for us, and then doing another in private. I'm more interested in that pattern and what that naturally might imply.
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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 12, 2020 12:55 PM
This is kind of funny and oh so apropos: http://youtu.be/Ai5XP9jkr6c But remember, they, the authorities, love us, and this is all for our best.  And when it's "rules for thee, but not for me", it's just kind of like your drunk parent telling you in a slurred voice, "heyz, youz shoodant drinnk...I fordidd it." IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted December 12, 2020 01:44 PM
I don't know that they should be subject to any kind of punishment, if the trumper republicans who insist on huge parties, and super-spreader events aren't going to be punished for literally getting people killed through covid spread at their events. I'm sick of it all. They somehow get away with this crap, because they aren't considered hypocrites in this one specific way. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted December 12, 2020 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
I don't know that they should be subject to any kind of punishment, if the trumper republicans who insist on huge parties, and super-spreader events aren't going to be punished for literally getting people killed through covid spread at their events. I'm sick of it all. They somehow get away with this crap, because they aren't considered hypocrites in this one specific way.
If a group of people don't think Covid is that big of a deal, then them getting together is not "hypocritical". But when people with real power to affect our lives with their policies, tell us that we need to or should do this or that, but then are caught going against that themselves--well it's not just hypocrisy but also abuse of power and authority which makes it MUCH worse. IP: Logged |
PhoenixRising
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posted December 12, 2020 10:41 PM
>>>Leaders shouldn’t be telling us one thing, and doing something else
Actually, this is good leadership. Why openly encourage people irresponsible activities. The person is okay of the consequence and it is a personal choice. Whoever reported the story is a criminal.
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