posted December 05, 2020 03:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Ok. I'll entertain you.

at the 7:00 to 7:30 mark, 2 women in yellow started scanning ballots into the machine after everyone but 4 of them were gone, having been told they should no longer be working on balloting and should come back the following morning at 8:30am. Again, no independent observer present.

at the 10:00 to 11:00 mark, look at the upper right hand video screen, people are clearly seen scanning ballots.

Again, no independent observer.

"Who said they were even ballots?" Well, let's see, what could they possibly be??? Thanksgiving cards? Thank you cards? Flyers? Magazines? Help me out, I am scratching my head here...

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Translation of the above: Belage has made their mind up, therefore no possible other explanations have any value.

Point taken. Maybe state that in your thread title next time, then you don't have to 'entertain me'

Original point remains though. How stupid would you need to be to commit fraud on CCTV or to not know that there is CCTV in the building in which part of the event that will radically change America is taking place.

I'll just wait and see what happens, rather than jump to a conclusion.

posted December 05, 2020 10:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Translation of the above: Belage has made their mind up, therefore no possible other explanations have any value.

Point taken. Maybe state that in your thread title next time, then you don't have to 'entertain me'

Original point remains though. How stupid would you need to be to commit fraud on CCTV or to not know that there is CCTV in the building in which part of the event that will radically change America is taking place.

I'll just wait and see what happens, rather than jump to a conclusion.

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No good deed goes unpunished, I see.

Because of course, you are the impartial one, asking impartial questions, I took the time to point out the obvious (obvious to anyone who had actually watched the video), complete with time stamp references. For that, I get no thanks, no acknowledgement. It's ok...

posted December 05, 2020 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Criminals are dumb and lazy. That’s why most of them get caught.

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posted December 05, 2020 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
No good deed goes unpunished, I see.

Because of course, you are the impartial one, asking impartial questions, I took the time to point out the obvious (obvious to anyone who had actually watched the video), complete with time stamp references. For that, I get no thanks, no acknowledgement. It's ok...

As for your suggestion to include things in my title next time to better suit your sensitivities, I am not sure what to make of it. Did I break any rules, moderator? I do not want to go the way of SecretGeek.

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posted December 05, 2020 12:04 PM            

After the video has gone viral, the fraudsters cannot deny the evidence shown in the video , so they have come up with the novel idea that it was perfectly normal procedure, that this was perfectly legal ballot counting.

For comedic relief laced with deep social commentary, enjoy the Conservative Twins' take on it. They can be raunchy and crass - after all they are comedians - but if you can get past that, you can appreciate their commentary:

https://youtu.be/ioWmWvJ36Jg?t=1

posted December 05, 2020 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
No good deed goes unpunished, I see.

Because of course, you are the impartial one, asking impartial questions, I took the time to point out the obvious (obvious to anyone who had actually watched the video), complete with time stamp references. For that, I get no thanks, no acknowledgement. It's ok...

As for your suggestion to include things in my title next time to better suit your sensitivities, I am not sure what to make of it. Did I break any rules, moderator? I do not want to go the way of SecretGeek.

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If you get defensive when someone makes a point which doesn't chime with your beliefs, then yes, my suggestion is that you state that you do not wish a discussion with anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly agree with you. Wouldn't that make everything much easier if you're going to get upset at other POVs?

This is a public forum with diverse views and perceptions. This is a strength, not a weakness or a failing. And if you respond to that diversity with sarcasm and poor attempts at humiliation, you are creating drama where there doesn't need to be.

The issue with Secretgeek was concluded by Randall on the relevant thread, which I assume you read. It has nothing to do with this discussion.

Can we move on now?

posted December 05, 2020 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I doubt that SecretGeek was banned, and it's obvious that your mind is made up, just as mine is.

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If Secretgeek was banned, I never heard about it.

posted December 05, 2020 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:

If you get defensive when someone makes a point which doesn't chime with your beliefs, then yes, my suggestion is that you state that you do not wish a discussion with anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly agree with you. Wouldn't that make everything much easier if you're going to get upset at other POVs?

This is a public forum with diverse views and perceptions. This is a strength, not a weakness or a failing. And if you respond to that diversity with sarcasm and poor attempts at humiliation, you are creating drama where there doesn't need to be.

The issue with Secretgeek was concluded by Randall on the relevant thread, which I assume you read. It has nothing to do with this discussion.

Can we move on now?

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I am creating drama?

Before lecturing me on defensiveness, I would highly suggest you check out your own defensiveness and sarcasm in replying to my post where I took the time to answer your questions with time stamp references. I actually had to go back and watch the darn thing again just to answer your supposedly impartial questions, since apparently during your viewing of the video, you missed these parts. Perhaps in the future, I should ignored questions whose answers are pointedly obvious...

I have been on this forum for a very long time and I swam among the various sharks and dolphins, I don't recall preventing people from having their opinions and views.

I mentioned SecretGeek because I recall you pointedly reminded him that he was breaking some forum rule. Hence my question to you, was I breaking some forum rule, moderator?

I don't think I was defensive, but is defensiveness a rule breaker in this forum? Along with sarcasm?

This forum has survived a very heated election year without heavyhanded moderation. It would be ironic if things start to change now.

posted December 05, 2020 12:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I am creating drama?

Before lecturing me on defensiveness, I would highly suggest you check out your own defensiveness and sarcasm in replying to my post where I took the time to answer your questions with time stamp references. I actually had to go back and watch the darn thing again just to answer your supposedly impartial questions, since apparently during your viewing of the video, you missed these parts. Perhaps in the future, I should ignored questions whose answers are pointedly obvious...

I have been on this forum for a very long time and I swam among the various sharks and dolphins, I don't recall preventing people from having their opinions and views.

I mentioned SecretGeek because I recall you pointedly reminded him that he was breaking some forum rule. Hence my question to you, was I breaking some forum rule, moderator?

I don't think I was defensive, but is defensiveness a rule breaker in this forum? Along with sarcasm?

This forum has survived a very heated election year without heavyhanded moderation. It would be ironic if things start to change now.

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Of course it's not a rule-breaker to be defensive or sarcastic or humiliating, but it is unnecessarily unpleasant and hostile. I'm responding to you as a person Belage, not a moderator. You've been here long enough to know the rules, so I don't even know why you are asking this.

Such is the burden of making claims Belage - we have to justify them. You went back and looked because you have made a claim to evidence of fraud of which I pointed out didn't make sense.

My original point has not been addressed, even now. There are few places in the world, especially those buildings used for very important official business, that at least FOUR people do not know they are being recorded by CCTV. I'm appealing to common sense here. There is no point twiddling with the finer details when the whole premise is based on non-sense.

posted December 05, 2020 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Of course it's not a rule-breaker to be defensive or sarcastic or humiliating, but it is unnecessarily unpleasant and hostile. I'm responding to you as a person Belage, not a moderator. You've been here long enough to know the rules, so I don't even know why you are asking this.

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As a person to person, how do you think it feels when something that is plain obvious for all who have eyes to see is being denied over and over? People have been saying there was fraud, and being told over and over, there is no evidence. So visual evidence is finally presented, and people are being asked, are these even ballots, and are they even being scanned? This gets tiring. Can you understand that as a person to person?

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:

Such is the burden of making claims Belage - we have to justify them. You went back and looked because you have made a claim to evidence of fraud of which I pointed out didn't make sense.

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:

My original point has not been addressed, even now. There are few places in the world, especially those buildings used for very important official business, that at least FOUR people do not know they are being recorded by CCTV. I'm appealing to common sense here. There is no point twiddling with the finer details when the whole premise is based on non-sense.

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Your Honor, and Members of the jury, it couldn't be fraud or illegal wrongdoing because they must have known they were doing this while being recorded by CCTV.

Are you saying people never do anything bad or illegal while being recorded? lol!!!

posted December 05, 2020 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
We already know that polling location was closed down due to the burst water main. They said as much the following day. Legitimate ballots don’t come packed in suitcases.

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Is there a good source for this? If this is true, then things are sounding pretty suspect. As folks here probably know, I don't like Trump and view him as dyed in the wool narcissist (and towards the malignant end of the spectrum).

But what I dislike even more, is unfairness, people taking advantage of other or the system, and corruption in any form. I can't help that with a combo of very strong Jupiter, Capricorn, Libra Moon and Aqua Venus in the 7th. Even with Trump, I don't condone or see the ends justifying the means to try to get rid of him in such ways (if true).

Question though? How do we know if the extra ballots were going to Biden and not Trump? My understanding is that Georgia has some heavy and definite pockets of strong conservatism and fair amount of Republicans especially outside the bigger cities and in the more rural and suburban areas.

If this was a type of fraud, couldn't it have been going towards Trump and not Biden? I watched some of the video and from what I saw, that part wasn't addressed.

Another question--are there more registered Republicans or Democrats in Georgia?

posted December 05, 2020 02:12 PM            

The water line break was widely spread on social media at the time. It was later downgraded to a “slow leak”, before it became a “clogged toilet”. There is no record of a work order for any kind of plumbing repair. News reported that people were told to leave. This is also reflected on social media platforms.

posted December 05, 2020 02:18 PM            

But now that the general public has been handcuffed with most basic rights taken away under the guise of pandemic, when the news media decides what constitutes fake news and what is legitimate news, when fact checkers never have to produce evidence for making statements, there is a new normal. Which is, don't believe your eyes, Believe what WE tell you to believe.

posted December 05, 2020 03:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Blind writer:
Belage, fact-checker is just a synonym for ministry of truth.

What I’m most worried about isn’t so much the bad behavior of Americans that cheated, but the possibility that this was also a result of foreign actors. That would be a direct attack on this country, and why some people are calling for the insurrection act. There is evidence of internet connectivity from certain voting machines on Election Day/night, which is an alarming red flag about the security of every vote cast using those devices.

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The Ministry of Truth. LOL.
The only thing Orwell's 1984 novel got wrong was the year date.

posted December 05, 2020 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Once again, let me remind: Trump ACOLYTE Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert Comic Strip, and a Master of Persuasion Theory, has debunked this Video. Trump allowed him and Lionel of Russia TV for personal meetings too.

And he 100% believes there has been Voter Fraud but is mocking Trump Fanatics who believe this particular Video is genuine evidence of fraud.

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So if I understand your position, whenever someone who you think is pro-Trump says something that benefits Biden's cause, it HAS TO BE TRUE?

How did Scott Adams debunk it? Did he subpoena the participants? Did he show their work log and job descriptions for the day? Did he look at the affidavits of those who claim they were told ballot counting will stop and everyone must leave? How exactly did he debunk it?

Did he explain and showed us the chain of custody for the ballots that were pulled from under the table? who put them there? In which truck did they arrive?

How did he conduct the proper investigation this matter warrants to claim that he "debunked" it?

posted December 05, 2020 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Not having poll monitors there was unlawful, and for that reason alone, those votes should be discarded.

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But, but, the narrative being spinned is that that people including the poll watchers and monitors left on their own and were never told to leave. They are arguing that they are under no obligation to stop working just because poll monitors left on their own.

And morever, that Georgia statute does not require the presence of poll monitors to scan votes.

THat is what the fact checkers, aka the Ministry of Truth, are claiming. Of course without material proof, but hey! And you know this satisfies the Biden supporters. As far as they are concerned, case closed!