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Topic: And The Winner Is...
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 135638 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 05:50 PM
http://m.theepochtimes.com/pennsylvania-georgia-nevada-and-arizona-republican-electors-cast-votes-for-trump_3618147.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2 020-12-14-5IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16810 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 05:53 PM
Biden. He won. IP: Logged |
Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 846 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted December 14, 2020 08:46 PM
Randall, I have seen there are seven states that submitted an alternate slate of electors: Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, and out of left field, New Mexico.This provides time for audits and ongoing litigation to resolve. If still not resolved by Jan 6, we’ll have to see what happens. Vice President Pence will preside over both chambers of Congress on that day, and will have to decide what to do with the multiple slates, as he is the one tasked with counting. SCOTUS may be forced to step in. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 135638 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 09:50 PM
I expect the unexpected.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16810 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 10:07 PM
Now it would be good to see those few Democrats who moved into the trump side, because democrats were supposedly so childish and unrelenting when it came to not accepting trump - I expect them to move back to the Democrats, after watching the Republicans who have tried to steal this election (and trump's usual childishness, in his refusal to concede). IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6254 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 05:16 AM
@Teasel: Millions of Republicans will shift to the Dems side after seeing this desperation from MAGA Klan to grab power by any means. Congressman Paul Mitchell left the GOP today in disgust.Just watch, GOP is so overconfident about Georgia Senate, this is when they are at their weakest, when they are most arrogant. I expect Dems to sneak through in the Run Offs. Meanwhile, what happened to all those German Servers? IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6254 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 08:58 AM
Even Putin has congratulated Biden!IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 135638 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 10:16 AM
The more who think Biden will be President on January 20, the merrier. The darker the berry, the sweeter the juice.IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6254 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 11:04 AM
Well, Mitch McConnell has accepted Biden as President Elect too. That means the only Path for Trump is Sedition/Treason to go against the Certified Electoral College and the will of 82 Million American Voters.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 135638 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 11:26 AM
Wrong. Seven states cast alternate electoral votes. What will happen is legal. If there is a dispute, each state gets one vote. Republican state legislatures outnumber Dems. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6254 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 01:40 PM
Lin Wood is asking MAGA to stock up on weapons, and to avoid voting in the run offs. He is threatening Kemp with Jail. No condemnation from Trump.Now, what is the incentive for Kemp to allow GOP to win the Senate Run Offs? Let us suppose he knows how to rig the elections, why would he not rig in favor of Democrats now that he is being threatened by MAGA? No common sense whatsoever. IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6254 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 01:47 PM
Regarding "Alternate Votes", have they been certified by the Governor and have they reached the US Senate? This is like writing a check to yourself from bank you just name after yourself. No Authorization. How can this be credible?IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16810 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 01:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: The more who think Biden will be President on January 20, the merrier. The darker the berry, the sweeter the juice.
Whatever helps you to sleep at night. Biden won, though. If the Supreme Court acknowledged that, I doubt they will appreciate thus being their their way again by pence, if he decides to try to keep stealing it. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 135638 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 02:12 PM
The legislature can cast its own electoral votes. It’s legal. It creates a Constitutional crisis, which the founders created a mechanism for.IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6254 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 02:23 PM
@Randall: <<The legislature can cast its own electoral votes. It’s legal. It creates a Constitutional crisis, which the founders created a mechanism for. >>True, but don't they have to be certified by the Majority of the State Legislature, in a Valid Session, and then sent to the Senate?
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 135638 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 15, 2020 03:07 PM
What happens is if the legislature hasn’t taken back the power from the electors, it creates a Constitutional crisis. Then each state legislator would get one vote.IP: Logged |
jwhop Knowflake Posts: 15618 From: Madeira Beach, FL USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2020 11:57 PM
Statistical Model Indicates Trump Actually Won Majorities in Five Disputed States and 49.68 Percent of the Vote in a Sixth December 14, 2020 EXECUTIVE SUMMARYWe report a simple yet powerful statistical model of county-level voter behavior in the November 2020 presidential election using two main types of data: 1.County-specific voting data from the five previous presidential elections. 2.Selected demographic variables (race and education) plotting how different national voter groups voted differently in 2020 overall. These two types of predictors allow us to explain over 95% of the variation in county-level votes, and therefore allow us identify which counties (and consequently, states) look substantially anomalous in the 2020 election. The model provides substantial support for the allegation that the outcome of the election was affected by fraud in multiple states. Specifically, the model’s predictions match the reported results in all other states, i.e. states where no fraud has been alleged, but predicts Trump won majorities in five disputed states (AZ, GA, NV, PA and WI) and 49.68% of the vote in the sixth (MI). In other words, the reported Biden margin of victory in at least five of the six contested states cannot be explained by any patterns in voter preference consistent with national demographic trends. SUMMARY OF MAIN ARGUMENTS 1. Our model explains 96% of county-level variance in Trump’s two-party vote share with four demographic variables (non-college white, college-educated white, black and hispanic) and one historical variable (the average of county-level GOP two-party presidential vote share, 2004-2016). All five variables are highly significant. This reinforces the conclusion that the model is generally a very strong predictor of vote shares, and so deviations from it should be considered surprising. 2. Under conservative assumptions, regression analysis shows Trump ought to have won AZ, GA, NV, PA, WI. http://www.revolver.news/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2020.12.10-02.19-revolvernews-5fd185b0d92f9.png 3. Every one of the contested states shows a larger predicted vote share for Trump than what he actually received. This is surprising, because in any set of observations, random chance might expect some predictions to favor Biden, but none do. In Georgia and Arizona, the model does not predict a narrow race, but a decisive Trump victory; the size of the anomaly is (much) larger than the reported margin of victory. 4. The model also performs well in battleground states that have not been contested, and thus where the election was presumably clean. Every one of these is correctly predicted, including both battleground states that voted for Trump (e.g. Ohio, Florida) and those that voted for Biden (e.g. New Hampshire). Indeed, there are no states that Trump won which the model predicts should have been won by Biden. Meanwhile, the errors in the model are constructed to average to zero, so the model cannot favor one candidate over the other. Instead, it reveals the places where actual outcomes differ the most from our predictions. 5. The model is robust to alternative specifications of the regression formula and weighting. 6. The model places the burden of proof on fraud skeptics to explain why nearly all the states where fraud has been alleged, and only those states, have results inconsistent with statistical trends in the rest of the country. 7. Our model highlights the importance of a systematic comparison of all counties in the US when trying to understand whether the contested states are actually unusual. Simply picking isolated comparison cities, or one-off comparisons to past elections, is a very inferior way of doing the comparison. This model takes this base intuition (which is actually good), but greatly improves it by making the comparison systematic. The fact that the contested states are mostly predicted to have been won by Trump using simple but powerful demographic models further adds weight to the existing evidence that these outcomes may have been altered by fraud............. http://www.revolver.news/2020/12/statistical-model-indicates-trump-won-landslide/
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