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Randall
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posted December 14, 2020 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Written by: Conner Alan

Today, the electoral college votes will be sealed and sent by special carrier to Washington where they will remain sealed until January 6th when the House and Senate will come into a joint session to open the votes. The media is going to make you believe that it's all over and Joe Biden is now officially president.

On January 6th, Nancy Pelosi will sit down with the rest of the House members as she has no special power or authority over the hearing. Vice President Mike Pence will have all the authority as president of the Senate for that day and will accept or reject motions to decide the next steps by the assembly.

Remember, Mike Pence is in full authority that day as written in the Constitution. The ballots will be certified today, but that means nothing.

The votes will be opened, and at that point one House member could, and most likely will, raise their hand to object to the Vice President on the state of electors’ votes. That objection could cover fraud or any other reason, and with the seconding of that objection everything changes. Everything!

The House and Senate will divide for two hours (at least) to debate, then vote. The vote will be per Senator with the Vice President being the deciding vote if needed in the Senate, while the vote in the House will only be ONE vote per delegation, per state, not per House member! The Republicans have 30 delegation votes compared to the Democrats’ 20 delegation votes.

If this scenario runs true, President Trump gets re-elected.

The Democrats, the media, social networks, and globalists around the world will come unhinged, and chaos will erupt. Bigly.

President Trump is trying to do the right thing and go through the courts first, and expose all the fraud, but we all knew that none of the courts, even the Supreme Court wanted to touch this issue with a 10-ft pole!

This is why our forefathers were so brilliant, because they knew something like this could happen someday. So, don't listen to the media and all their deception and lies. All you have to do is read the Constitution, and you know that the law, policies, and procedures in the end are on our side.

Tic Toc... Tic Toc...

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posted December 14, 2020 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read something like this earlier. If Mike Pence tries to steal the election, more than Democrats will be unhinged, and with good reason. Your guy lost, and normally I could empathize a bit - but not when it comes to him, and everything that you have supported, and continue to support, under him.

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posted December 14, 2020 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Read Trump's nieces' book on Trump. He will not accept defeat. She forewarned us all. The narcissist Trump. God bless America. The Governors of each state has given their goto to Biden. But the state legislature has the final authority and the final say --greater than the governor. Majority of the state legislators in PA is republican. So they will possibly say Trump won in PA. If the state legislators are confused perhaps threatened by the deep state. Then Pence as VP can intervene and request SCOTUS to give hearing.


But it seems the electors are convinced that Biden won. So Pence can't do much.

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On Monday in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — the six battleground states that Biden won and Trump contested — electors gave Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris their votes in low-key proceedings

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posted December 15, 2020 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We shall see.

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posted December 15, 2020 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a Quorum Rule as well such that neither Joe nor Trump can be President till 20th Jan 2021.

Nancy will become President, then arrest Pence and Trump for trying to Sabotage the Will of the Majority of American Voters.

On the 5th of January, sufficient messaging will be given to Pence about this so that he behaves like a good little boy and obeys Uncle Joe than Brother Trump...

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posted December 15, 2020 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pelousy can't arrest anyone. The election is officially in dispute. Seven states have cast competing electoral votes. The media isn't reporting it. Not even FOX News. Biden didn't mention that in his acceptance speech where he kept clearing his throat repeatedly (a telltale sign of lying). He didn't even believe a thing he was saying. He also can't believe he got away with this fraud. He didn't. Congress will decide who becomes the next President. Republicans are going to win the two Senate races. The House vote will come from the state legislatures. What do you think is going to happen?

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posted December 15, 2020 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Electors need not have an opinion, PhoenixRising. They're not so much convinced as they are duty-bound to fulfill their role.

There were no faithless electors this time either. No elector tried to subvert their duty in order to try to install Trump as President.

Mike Pence has ZERO power to decide the Presidency.

Any politician who thinks it's a great idea to subvert the will of the people will likely hear from those people.

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posted December 15, 2020 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, the courts HAVE BEEN doing their job this whole time. They're fine hearing objections to the election. There just hasn't been anything of particular merit.

You guys need to exit your bubble and join reality. Nothing's going to save Trump.

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posted December 15, 2020 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt if Kelly will win, and I am 100% sure Mitt Romney plus Susan Collins will avoid taking part in a Treasonous Act. They will let the Democrat Majority House decide.

That means Nancy holds the Cards if Pence commits Treason.

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posted December 15, 2020 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its called wishful thinking.
Its over. The longer one hangs onto it,the longer they look foolish.
Even McConnnel hears the death toll of a party sinking and the dems rising.

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posted December 15, 2020 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The courts have found procedural reasons to deny them, such as lack of standing and laches. Only the legislature can change election law. Ballots cast after Election Day thus are unconstitutional. All of these changes due to the pandemic are unlawful. The fact that courts have not ruled such is due to them not wanted their houses burned down or worse.

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posted December 15, 2020 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG,
The constitution does give state legislators(electoral offices) power to vote considering the peoples vote. Usually they go by the will of the people, I can't recall when they did not in the past. Perhaps they go by sentiment and feeling and other evidences. We have to believe they are truly bipartisan when casting their votes.

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posted December 15, 2020 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The media isn’t reporting that seven states have cast alternate electoral votes.

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posted December 15, 2020 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
I doubt if Kelly will win, and I am 100% sure Mitt Romney plus Susan Collins will avoid taking part in a Treasonous Act. They will let the Democrat Majority House decide.

That means Nancy holds the Cards if Pence commits Treason.


Senators Susan Collins and Mittens Romney will have nothing to do with the election of President in Congress. The United States House of Representatives will vote..under the scenario put forth here. Republican delegations outnumber democrat delegations. One vote per state. Trump wins reelection....in an election he already won in a landslide.

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posted December 15, 2020 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9840583269

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posted December 15, 2020 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rather than letting this country attempt to heal as much as it can, from the disastrous past four years, you want as much drama as possible for all of us. Which is sad, and unpatriotic, in my opinion. You don't want people to be good to each other, and trump never has, otherwise he wouldn't have encouraged so much violence. He is a domestic terrorist.

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posted December 15, 2020 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Rather than letting this country attempt to heal as much as it can, from the disastrous past four years, you want as much drama as possible for all of us. Which is sad, and unpatriotic, in my opinion. You don't want people to be good to each other, and trump never has, otherwise he wouldn't have encouraged so much violence. He is a domestic terrorist.

Stealing elections is unpatriotic and treason against the United States and the people of the United States.

Biden, Harris, Abrams, Dominion and Smartech executives should get a trial and be shipped straight to federal prison.

In the meantime, democrat officials supporting Antifa and BLM violence, the looters, rioters, arsonists and murderers should all join the election fraudsters in federal prison.

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posted December 15, 2020 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The will of the people? Whose people?

Any impartial observer can see that there was widespread fraud and that without it, Trump won the popular vote. So the will of the majority who voted for Trump is being ignored.

Again as I have said in another thread, one of the main differences between the trump voters and the Biden voters is that the vast majority of Trump voters are not going to descend in the streets and riot and loot and burn down businesses if their will is ignored.

We cannot say the same for the Biden side. In fact Kamala had warned that riots will continue, if that's what it takes to get what they want.

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posted December 15, 2020 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
The media isn’t reporting that seven states have cast alternate electoral votes.

The media only reports what supports its official narrative.

From Covid to election fraud, We have all witnessed a concerted effort to make invisible or discredit any fact that contredicts the narrative.

People should ask yourself why? Why this unprecedented blackout on information? Is that truly what happens in democratic societies?

People are witnessing the loss of freedom of expression and the loss of free circulation of information, THEY ARE WITNESSING IT!!

But because they hate Trump soooo much, they are pretending they do not see it, as long as it will get Trump out. People, that is cutting your nose to spite your face!! If freedom of expression and free circulation of information do NOT matter to you, then I don't know what to tell you.

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posted December 15, 2020 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After five years of lies to try to take down President Trump, now you want to let the country “attempt to heal”?

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posted December 16, 2020 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ LOL! funny, isn't it?!

"Let the country attempt to heal" after you have shamelessly silenced, ignored, or disparaged all factual evidence of election fraud.

The FBI sent a team of agents to investigate report of a noose at NASCAR. But can't be bothered to investigate in-your-face election frauds.

Yeah, good luck with the country healing, silly rabbit!

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posted December 16, 2020 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Senators Susan Collins and Mittens Romney will have nothing to do with the election of President in Congress. The United States House of Representatives will vote..under the scenario put forth here. Republican delegations outnumber democrat delegations. One vote per state. Trump wins reelection....in an election he already won in a landslide.

So you are 100% Sure that Trump will be inaugurated on Jan 20th 2021?

And what about the German Servers? Are you also saying the US Military recovered US Election Servers from Frankfurt? With German Cops and Military playing cards while a foreign firefight took place in their Maximum City?

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posted December 16, 2020 06:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
After five years of lies to try to take down President Trump, now you want to let the country “attempt to heal”?

Hey, your people were the ones suddenly calling for civility, when he got sick. Also when your poor little hearts were broken by Biden winning. You didn’t give a crap before. I’ve always been concerned about healing the BS your votes brought down on the rest of us.

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posted December 16, 2020 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

You are a computer expert. What do you have to say about the claims made in the Dominion forensic reports? Specifically the claim of missing security logs for the day before, day of, and day after the election?

This is computer science. Not social science where one's opinion can color one's claims. Isn't this claim easily verifiable?
Could the forensic report experts somehow MISS those logs through their own ineptitude?
Are they fabricating this claim? Why should they when the people accused can easily produce those missing logs?

So my questions is, WHERE ARE THOSE MISSING SECURITY LOGS AND WHY ARE THEY MISSING? (not screaming at you, just capitalized for emphasis).

ETA: I am asking YOU because I have known you on this board for almost 2 decades, and we have even communicated outside of this forum privately.

I am waiting for your answer, as someone whose opinion I have held in high regards over the years, then I will move on. I will not spend my time on this forum much longer. This is my spiritual wakeup call to not invest any more emotion in human politics.

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posted December 16, 2020 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Belage:
Yes, I am a Computer Science Expert among other things.

I can assure you that if Dominion Management Says to Courts that "Logs are Missing" only for Nov 3rd and Nov 4th, then they are liars.

Software Logs cannot vanish unless explicitly deleted from the Admin Panel. And every Database even maintains logs of who was the Admin, when Admin logged in, when Admin logged out and even logs every task taken up by the Admin. This is managed from the Operating System Level, whether Microsoft or Linux or IBM or Apple, it is the same Algorithm.

Coming to missing data, Data is still recoverable because no Hard Disk data gets erased by the Operating System, the file zones with the data are marked as "Deleted" meaning other data can be written there in the future, which can take years considering the huge Terra Byte Storage available these days. The only way to destroy data so that even Forensic Teams cannot retrieve it using Assembly Level Tools, is to overwrite the entire Hard Disk with Junk Data a 100 times at least, from 0 to 1 Terrabyte Range. Like "Bleach Bit" kind of stuff.

And here is the best part, if Dominion did something like that, then even that will be logged in by the Admin Panel, even if done remotely. As it has to be an Executable File run from a remote location, as any local person doing this will be caught on CCTV.


So you see, there is Absolutely no escape if any kind of Data Audit Mischief has been attempted. They just cannot hide any evidence, and will have to go to prison etc.

However, the Cybersecurity Divisions of NSA and US Military [I am assuming CIA is corrupt as hell and FBI is incompetent] would have seized the Machine Hard Disks by Nov 5th itself if they had any suspicion.

Now this is where my other expertise about USA tells me that odds of mischief are very less [not impossible, just far far lesser than Trump and Maga is bellowing about].
American Military Intelligence in the 1960s murdered Che Guevara because Satellites picked up the little gas stove he used to warm some soup or tea, inside a dense forest.

Can you imagine how it is now? The level of Surveillance by 5 Eyes, NSA etc is 10-15 years ahead of what we get to study in Universities. If even a single Dominion Employee had uttered a word about fraud in his home or office or SMS or Mobile Conversation, then it has been picked up by Multiple Agencies. That is the level of surveillance power available [Like shown in the fictional TV series "Person of Interest" starring Jim Caviezel].

For Dominion to have pulled off this colossal scale of Mischief/Fraud AND for no knowledge of this with the Trillion Dollar US Military Surveillance Infrastructure, the only way is for Telepathic Conversation between Teleporting Dominion Employees. Or an Extra Terrestrial Hand.

Trump directly selected every expert and Judge. Trump was allegedly asked by Pentagon to run for President. Why would Pentagon and Trump's hired experts and Trump's appointed Judges let him down? Trump is not some great Super Human talent that would come in the way of the Deep State, he is no big deal for such a Grand 5th D Conspiracy against him.
Hence by Occam's Razor of looking at the simplest explanation, Trump just lost because American Voters were fed up of his Narcissism and Pandemic Mismanagement/Excuses which took 300000 lives.

Do you think Biden will do a miraculous great job? Hell No! He has 47 years of incompetence as a record. Biden just got lucky for being in the right place at the right time. No decent human being likes a braggart or rude bully, and sadly that is what Trump is. Hence, he got dumped.
Had a Mitt Romney been the GOP Candidate this time, GOP would have won 400+ Electoral College Votes. They did very well in the other seats.

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