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iQ
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posted January 13, 2021 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yet again, I have to stand up and applaud the American Institutions. In the very Structure that Domestic White Terrorists sought to destroy, the World got to Witness Democracy and Freedom of Speech in Action.
Oh you Lucky Americans, you are the Creme De La Creme of the 7.7 Billion Souls that you are privileged to be Citizens of a Nation that has such Institutions with you and the Amazing Constitution with all its Amendments.

As an Indian, even I feel extreme anger when I see videos of the terrorists [No different than ISIS or Al-Qaeda] who wanted to hunt down Constitutionally elected Representatives in the Greatest Temple of Democracy. Imagine what the actual intended Victims must be feeling.

Yet, they still chose to have a powerful Debate one week from their possible Funeral. The Thugs who planned their Obituaries will now have "Cancelled" in their Epitaphs.

Special mention to the GOP who accepted the errors of omission and commission on their part. McCarthy called a spade a spade and blamed Trump for failing to act after knowing about the attacks. Even the snakes like Boebert who may have worked with the Terrorists got a chance to speak.

Hats off America. You will survive the Demagogues, the Foreign Enemies and the Internal Enemies because your Institutions work.

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posted January 13, 2021 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to the Herald it's no longer a debate...
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/19009337.donald-trump-impeached-second-time/?ref=ebbn

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posted January 13, 2021 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although the Senate usually vetoes it anyway if I remember correctly?

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posted January 13, 2021 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Trump called for peace during the inauguration. Be aware that the left rioted and burned and firebombed cars during President Trump’s inauguration. And people didn’t board up buildings on Election Day because they thought cities would burn down if Biden won. President Trump called for “no violence” and “no lawbreaking” during the inauguration. Did Hilary do the same? The Dems are the party of violence.

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posted January 13, 2021 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
President Trump called for peace during the inauguration. Be aware that the left rioted and burned and firebombed cars during President Trump’s inauguration. And people didn’t board up buildings on Election Day because they thought cities would burn down if Biden won. President Trump called for “no violence” and “no lawbreaking” during the inauguration. Did Hilary do the same? The Dems are the party of violence.

He realizes that he’s in big trouble now. So many cowardly republicans who wouldn’t do the right thing today. I’m glad that some of them did.

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posted January 13, 2021 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The incitement by Trump to insurrection by Trump supporters is a gigantic lie. Some democrats...and any republicans voting for impeachment won't survive their next election.

"President Trump addressed the protesters and called on the assembled to march “over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

At the moment the President was uttering the words “peacefully,” though, a different more sinister group had already gathered at the Capitol, a full 45 minute walk away.

Some things, though, are certain. We know, for instance, that many of the troublemakers were not Trump supporters.

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posted January 13, 2021 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Assuming that Trump did not directly incite the Mob [There is a Science of Subliminal Programming , repeat a Verb 6 times with Emotion and it triggers action. Trump is a Master of this technique. He said "Fight" more than 20 times but avoided words like Peace, Harmony, Unity etc], any Sane American President would have sent in the National Guard at 2 PM itself upon hearing of the breach at 1:56 PM. Plus Drone Strikes, atleast warning strikes, on the Mobs outside trying to break windows would have been authorized.

Trump and GOP Admit the Protests were infiltrated by Terrorists [GOP admitted that it was NOT Antifa, so those who blamed ANTIFA have egg on their face, again] and that the external protestors were peaceful.

What if the Terrorists used C4 or Anthrax? Then even the 10000s of so called peaceful protestors outside were in danger.

This means Trump is utterly incompetent in protecting his Country, and unfit to be President.

The US Protocol is always to kill Terrorists without Prejudice, this was Trump's biggest failure. The moment any Protestor entered the Building, he or she should have been assumed to be a Terrorist because the chants were "Hang Mike Pence". Direct threats.
Imagine Al-Qaeda or Black Panthers entering the Capitol Hill. What would have happened?

Another Point: ALL JOINT CHIEFS Ratified Biden's Victory. Pentagon Military Intelligence is ahead of even CIA and NSA, this means they have 100% evidence that there was no election fraud. This means Sydney Powell has been lying too about German Servers, Dominion Issues etc.

All the Conspiracies will be revealed from Jan 21st. The Endgame for Trump is the Death of his Brand.

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posted January 14, 2021 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by iQ:
Assuming that Trump did not directly incite the Mob [There is a Science of Subliminal Programming , repeat a Verb 6 times with Emotion and it triggers action. Trump is a Master of this technique. He said "Fight" more than 20 times but avoided words like Peace, Harmony, Unity etc], any Sane American President would have sent in the National Guard at 2 PM itself upon hearing of the breach at 1:56 PM. Plus Drone Strikes, atleast warning strikes, on the Mobs outside trying to break windows would have been authorized.

Absurd!
Now one can be impeached for what they're thinking? Or, what their supporters are thinking? You get further into unreality with every post. Just admit there is no justification for these hate filled democrats to impeach Trump.

"Trump and GOP Admit the Protests were infiltrated by Terrorists [GOP admitted that it was NOT Antifa, so those who blamed ANTIFA have egg on their face, again] and that the external protestors were peaceful."

Source for your assertion that Trump and Gop ADMITTED Antifa wasn't part of the attack on the Capitol.

"What if the Terrorists used C4 or Anthrax? Then even the 10000s of so called peaceful protestors outside were in danger."

What if the cow jumped over the moon..or Coock Robin is in a witness protection program in Bolivia. Stop making Shiite up.

"This means Trump is utterly incompetent in protecting his Country, and unfit to be President."

You are in extreme error. Washington DC is controlled by the Congress of the United States..with an elected Mayor and appointed police chief. Admit your error and admit this bunch of radical leftist democrat House and Senate members are the most lawless bunch to ever infest the Congress.

"The US Protocol is always to kill Terrorists without Prejudice, this was Trump's biggest failure. The moment any Protestor entered the Building, he or she should have been assumed to be a Terrorist because the chants were "Hang Mike Pence". Direct threats.
Imagine Al-Qaeda or Black Panthers entering the Capitol Hill. What would have happened?"

Reasonable and Rational people don't assume a damned thing...especially when contemplating using deadly force against citizens whom you don't know their intentions or political views. You sound like a loony tunes nut. NUKE EM, right, check.

"Another Point: ALL JOINT CHIEFS Ratified Biden's Victory. Pentagon Military Intelligence is ahead of even CIA and NSA, this means they have 100% evidence that there was no election fraud. This means Sydney Powell has been lying too about German Servers, Dominion Issues etc."

No one gives a rotten rat's a$$ what ex military officers think...ex military officers who couldn't cut the mustard against ISIS..until Trump came on the scene and gave them some backbone. Part of the reason they're EX-military officers.

The nonsense there was no election fraud shows you're far into the Non compos mentis state.

"All the Conspiracies will be revealed from Jan 21st. The Endgame for Trump is the Death of his Brand."

BS! This election and the impeachment of Trump leaves Trump stronger politically than ever. Even after democrats have done their damnest to damage him politically, Trump's approval ratings are still at 49%...where they've been for months. What is true is that the so called republican party may exit stage left. The republican party consists of a membership list and donor list but Trump has the support of almost 90% of republican voters. Republican voters and a healthy share of democrat voters aren't going back to the establishment uni-party of Globalist, America Last morons.

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posted January 14, 2021 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't there supposed to be an investigation before they impeach a US president? Where was the investigation with witnesses and lawyers and presenting of evidence etc? That was an impeachment following... a debate of opinions.

Anyway, what are the concrete implications of the impeachment on Trump until January 20? What is it that Trump can or cannot do as president until January 20 now that the house has impeached him?

Was this just political circus, a way for the democrats and their allies to inflict psychic whipping and psychic warfare on Trump and those who dare thinking differently?

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posted January 14, 2021 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The outright lies of the Dems during the debates were an embarrassment. Impeachment has been watered down so much now that the process has been forever corrupted.

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posted January 14, 2021 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Isn't there supposed to be an investigation before they impeach a US president? Where was the investigation with witnesses and lawyers and presenting of evidence etc? That was an impeachment following a debate of opinions...

Anyway, what are the concrete implications of the impeachment on Trump until January 20? What is it that Trump can or cannot do as president until January 20 now that the house has impeached him?

Was this just political circus, a way for the democrats and their allies to inflict psychic whipping and psychic warfare on Trump and those who dare thinking differently?


Pretty much what you said.

Trump is President until noon on Jan 20th. He can do anything he could do before the ridiculous impeachment.

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posted January 14, 2021 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing this did do is that it was another impeachment punch on President Trump's Subway card, so he is that much closer to getting a free sub.

It has really p*ssed off his supporters and unified us even more. The 2022 mid-terms are going be glorious.

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posted January 14, 2021 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MarsSaturnDelight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
One thing this did do is that it was another impeachment punch on President Trump's Subway card, so he is that much closer to getting a free sub.


😂 need more wit, Randall

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posted January 14, 2021 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the intellectual, moral and ethical Lilliputians who impeached Trump:

Americans say you suk!

For the drooling, wild eyed Bolsheviks in the press:

Americans say you suk too!

In the meantime, Trump's approval ratings are far higher than the idiot's in the Congress or press.

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posted January 14, 2021 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@JWHop wrote:
<<Source for your assertion that Trump and Gop ADMITTED Antifa wasn't part of the attack on the Capitol.>>

Dear JWH,
I know you are upset at being wrong 100+ times in the past 2 months, from "Trump will win in a landslide" to "Trump will win the court cases" etc. You will continue to be wrong as you do not apply logic, you just use rude language to make up for emotional irrationality at seeing your idol walk Cancelled into a Sunset of Embarassment.

But that aside, I never said Trump admitted there was no Antifa. I said GOP admitted it, and I inferred it from House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy's speech where he said there was absolutely no evidence for ANTIFA having any role in the Insurrection on Capitol hill.

Trump cannot afford to avoid blame on ANTIFA, else these Terrorists will wipe out his family. I do not blame him. The White Neo Nazis are worse than Al-Qaeda and ISIS, because Al-Qaeda/Isis fighters are from impoverished Nations, very easy to brainwash.

As of now, only White Terrorists, White Supremacists and Neo Nazis have been arrested.

I will make some more predictions:
1) Rudy will ensure Trump Brand suffers even more.
2) At least 2 Representatives from GOP will get expelled or even go to Prison for their role in the Insurrection
3) Trump will not be able to run for office in 2024
4) Trump will declare one more Bankruptcy in 2021.
5) Ted Cruz and/or Josh Hawley will be expelled from the Senate in 2021 [long shot but I am feeling confident about this].

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posted January 14, 2021 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I will make some more predictions:
1) Rudy will ensure Trump Brand suffers even more.
2) At least 2 Representatives from GOP will get expelled or even go to Prison for their role in the Insurrection
3) Trump will not be able to run for office in 2024
4) Trump will declare one more Bankruptcy in 2021.
5) Ted Cruz and/or Josh Hawley will be expelled from the Senate in 2021 [long shot but I am feeling confident about this]."

Remembering your disastrous predictions for the stock market when Trump was elected in 2016...which would have bankrupted anyone following your advice, I'm inclined to disregard any predictions you make now. Embarrassing!

Study and retain the image of this guy...John Sullivan, Antifa/BLM. You're going to be hearing and seeing much more of Sullivan in presentations and videos..and his part in the Antifa/BLM participation at the January 6 storming of Congress.


Watch this video, all of it to find out who really attacked the Capitol on January 6th. Click on episode 101


http://rudygiulianics.com/censored-videos/

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posted January 14, 2021 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Pretty much what you said.

Trump is President until noon on Jan 20th. He can do anything he could do before the ridiculous impeachment.


I means, if the impeachment has no teeth, what was the point?

I am just lost here since reasoned thinking seems to be in short supply. But maybe I am the stupid one and our impeachment supporters here can enlighten me about its actual concrete consequences on Trump. Surely, our elected officials wouldn't waste an entire workday of tax payers' money on doing something that has no teeth.

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posted January 14, 2021 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
I means, if the impeachment has no teeth, what was the point?

I am just lost here since reasoned thinking seems to be in short supply.


They're dragging Hector's body around the walls of Troy for kicks.

What a shameful waste of time and resources this is.

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posted January 14, 2021 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The BLM activist was arrested.
http://m.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-activist-who-stormed-capitol-on-jan-6-arrested-charged_3657333.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-01- 14-4

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posted January 14, 2021 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sort of admire his "I was there as a journalist" routine.

Finger in the eye of the journalists who defend him while simultaneously showing us how low that profession has sunk.

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posted January 14, 2021 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
The BLM activist was arrested.
[URL=http://m.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-activist-who-stormed-capitol-on-jan-6-arrested-charged_3657333.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-202 1-01-]http://m.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-activist-who-stormed-capitol-on-jan-6-arrested-charged_3657333.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-20 21-01-[/URL] 14-4


So it took 7 days for them to arrest him. When we knew from day 1 that he had been a part of the storming...

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posted January 14, 2021 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:
I sort of admire his "I was there as a journalist" routine.

Finger in the eye of the journalists who defend him while simultaneously showing us how low that profession has sunk.



From the article:
Videos showed Sullivan and others breaking through a barricade, with the Utah man shouting: “There are so many people. Let’s go. This [Expletive] is ours! [Expletive] yeah. We accomplished this [expletive]. We did this together. [Expletive] yeah! We are all a part of this history. Let’s burn this [Expletive] down.”

He was later heard encouraging protesters to climb a wall to get to an entrance to the Capitol and was seen entering the building.

When I read about him days ago, I remember he claimed he had to act like the rest of the mob in order to not arise their suspicions.

I am sure he will get off.

Anyway, it's too late. Impeachment based on the claim Trump incited an armed insurrection is already done. Perfect timing to arrest him, lol.

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posted January 14, 2021 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Anyway, it's too late. Impeachment based on the claim Trump incited an armed insurrection is already done. Perfect timing to arrest him, lol."

Exactly, this was planned in advanced and had nothing to do with President Trump or Trump supporters. There goes any reason for impeachment...aside from a political motive by hateful, bat shiiite crazy democrats and their loony tunes followers.

One more thing.
Rudy forced the FBI's hand in arresting Sullivan by publishing the video of this BLM/Antifa domestic terrorist. I read somewhere that the FBI had questioned Sullivan right after the assault on the Capitol and had released him.

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posted January 15, 2021 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by shura:
[b]I sort of admire his "I was there as a journalist" routine.

Finger in the eye of the journalists who defend him while simultaneously showing us how low that profession has sunk.



From the article:
Videos showed Sullivan and others breaking through a barricade, with the Utah man shouting: “There are so many people. Let’s go. This [Expletive] is ours! [Expletive] yeah. We accomplished this [expletive]. We did this together. [Expletive] yeah! We are all a part of this history. Let’s burn this [Expletive] down.”

He was later heard encouraging protesters to climb a wall to get to an entrance to the Capitol and was seen entering the building.

When I read about him days ago, I remember he claimed he had to act like the rest of the mob in order to not arise their suspicions.

I am sure he will get off.

Anyway, it's too late. Impeachment based on the claim Trump incited an armed insurrection is already done. Perfect timing to arrest him, lol.

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To clarify, I don't know if he has or intends to use the impartial journalist defense for the Capital Hill charges, but he has used it during BLM/Antifa rioting.

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posted January 16, 2021 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rudy/Trump are mainly fighting over the attorney fees Rudy charged to keep Trump in office. Wonder how America will react when they know the role of Vatican and Italy in America's politics in the last few months.

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