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shura
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posted January 19, 2021 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Turns out early reports National Guard members brought into to DC were being "vetted" by the FBI for dissident political positions were true.

FBI has found two, accused them of "ties to fringe right wing militias", and removed them from DC. The FBI wont reveal the name of the militia groups so I guess we have to take their word that they're super scary, violent terrorist cells out to overthrow the Biden Admin.

Incidentally, reader comments attached to this story are absolutely wild, though not altogether surprising. Ofc most want the two accused to be dishonorably discharged, but many other others calling for jail time and even execution. It's a good peek into how easily fired up the proles really are, how quick we are to turn on each other at the word of corrupt government apparatchiks. Have a look for yourself.

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shura
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posted January 19, 2021 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/2-national-guard-members-removed-from-inauguration-duty-after-militia-links-found/2545777/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand&&__twitter_impr ession=true

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iQ
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posted January 19, 2021 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fact that just 2 White Supremacists infiltrated the System out of 20000+ National Guards proves that everything is still Ideologically Awesome about USA as far as Military Institutional Integrity is concerned in the past decade. The Pentagon took lot of flak after Abu Ghraib, and they have done a tremendous job after that to de-program Soldiers. Looks like the truly wicked are joining Erik Prince.

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shura
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posted January 19, 2021 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What?

We dont know that they were White supremacists. We dont even know if they were White. Neither do we know there were only two or if the vetting is finished.

Iq, your response here is well illustrative of the extremist, hyper reactionary wave of partisanship moving thru not just the US but the world entire.

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shura
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posted January 19, 2021 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As expected, 10 more.
http://www.cnn.com/2021/01/19/politics/national-guard-removed-inauguration-duty/index.html?utm_content=2021-01-19T20%3A20%3A40&utm_source=twCNN&utm_medium=social&utm_term=link

Twelve Army National Guard members have been removed from inauguration duty in Washington, DC, as part of the security vetting process initiated, in part, to ensure troops tasked with securing Wednesday's ceremony in the nation's capital do not have ties to extremist groups, the Chief of the National Guard Bureau said Tuesday.

Two of the individuals were flagged due to "inappropriate" comments and texts, Army Gen. Daniel Hokanson told reporters after a defense official told CNN earlier Tuesday that they were removed over possible links to extremists.
The other 10 Guard members were removed for questionable behavior found in the vetting process, Hokanson said, emphasizing that this does not necessarily mean they have ties to extremists, but simply that they were "identified" and removed from service "out of an abundance of caution."

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So from this we find that those "ties to fringe right wing militias" were in fact nothing but "inappropriate" comments made on social media. What defines "inappropriate"? We don't know.

As for why the the newly found 10 were "removed" - we don't know that either.

I recall an old thread on this site where we discussed the number - hundreds in fact - of high ranking military officers purged from the ranks by Clinton, Bush, Obama. At the time (this was post 9/11) there was a popular story going about that many of those officers quit in protest over then forming plans to gut and restructure the military. Stories flying of martial law scenarios, posse comitatus, etc All popular topics after the Patriot Act. There were stories of low ranking officers and infantry being polled on their willing to arrest or shoot "armed American insurgents." Accusations that those who wouldn't agree were pushed out or demoted. Anyone willing to look further than the average Repub, who cared only about "defunding", could see that purge would have long term consequences as new policies and procedures trickled down. I think we are now seeing the end result. I hope the money blind Repubs, who should have been watching the shop, now understand why Obama pulled the money, then Trump wrote a blank check. It was a Long March.

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teasel
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posted January 19, 2021 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember when rump gassed protesters for a photo op? With a bible that he doesn't even believe in - he held it like it was a dead mouse.

Trump supporters almost killed people, two weeks ago, including Pence and Pelosi. Of course they're going to be more careful with people around Biden and Harris.

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shura
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posted January 19, 2021 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Remember when rump gassed protesters for a photo op? With a bible that he doesn't even believe in - he held it like it was a dead mouse.

Yeah atheists and Jews often do that. Like Evangelical Christians with the Quran.

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Trump supporters almost killed people, two weeks ago, including Pence and Pelosi. Of course they're going to be more careful with people around Biden and Harris.

lol Sure they did.

What is "more careful"? Identifying and removing soldiers who voted for Trump? Who 'liked' an NRA tweet? Wo applied for a gun license?

I'll rephrase that for the dull witted. Who voted for Biden. Who 'liked' a BLM tweet. Who sent a donation to the DSA.

"These are vetting efforts that identify any questionable behavior in the past, or any potential link to questionable behavior, not just related to extremism...we're not asking questions right now." - Assistant to the Secretary of Defense

Define "questionable behavior in the past .. not related to extremism"

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Randall
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posted January 19, 2021 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, but I do remember Barr asking a violent mob to move back who were throwing bricks and bottles at the police, so they absolutely deserved to be gassed. Have you ever gotten facts correct on a single thing you have ever posted here? Even when you are corrected, you still parrot CNN’s fantasies. At least you’re consistent.

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