posted February 01, 2021 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Only ten days in and already 40,000 COVID deaths. At this rate, there will be 400,000 deaths in Biden’s first 100 days, which took a whole year under Trump’s watch.

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I really doubt that has anything to do with Biden and his admin. There hasn't really been enough time and enough changes yet to attribute anything to him. And that is not how pandemics work anyways.

Also, you can't have it both ways. I have noticed that both you and others in this forum section that strongly identify with the right, have said, implied, suggested, etc and multiple times, that not all these deaths are strictly Covid caused deaths.

That, I actually can agree with, though like everyone else I'm in the dark about exact numbers. The CDC has been "cooking the books" since March 2020 with their mandates.

Hence, logically speaking, you can't have it "both ways". Either all of the deaths have been primarily Covid, or it's more nuanced and complex, and the numbers are likely skewed to at least some extent.

Dude, you really need to get out of this group think belief system bubble you are in. You and Blue Roamer, Teasel, etc are FAR, FAR more similar than you realize in some respects. It's like the "devout" atheist and the devout, extremist religious person, also have more in common than they realize. They both fervently believe without objectively looking at all the data.

You guys are just different sides of the same coin in these group think, belief system bubbles you are in.

You think this "evolution" of this in this country was completely by accident? Nah, the plutocrats, since the earlier days, have been hiring very clever and psychologically learned, people like Edward Bernays, to help them in their purposes to divide and manipulate the common people into two VERY polarized factions i.e. the modern "right" and "left". Because, as long as they are infighting and fighting each other, they don't and won't put their focus on where it really needs to be..on them.

You strike me as intelligent enough to understand this core truth, and yet you persist in going along with this charade? Why? Is it just about emotional attachment and that you grew up in a certain area, in a certain family, and it's hard to let go of the childhood conditioning you've been through?

Or are you actively trying to support the plutocrats and this polarization and division among us commoners? Because if that is not what you are trying to do consciously, it most certainly is what you are doing unconsciously.

The way out of this mess of being so controlled and manipulated by these billionaires, is for us non elites, non billionaires on the left and right to come together, and realize that we have FAR MORE in common with EACH OTHER than we do with those psychopathic billionaire plutocrat aholes who are basically in the process of creating a "soft" global slave system that ONLY benefits them and their cronies i.e. all the wealth, resources, and power concentrated into the hands of the controlling relative few.

Why would you want to help them in their efforts? Why contribute to the weakening of the common person and masses? Why not try to build bridges instead and strengthen unity between us common, non elite peoples? Why so much energy and time wasted in vitriol against the "left", when the people here you are talking to are not politicians, and the politicians themselves don't actually care about these labels?

To be honest, all of you people in this forum section, both on the left and the right, that are wasting time and energy in this inane, pointless infighting, are acting like irrational, over emotional children. Truly and seriously, like grow the f@ck up already and start using your Source given brains and start partaking in trying to actually help, rather than hinder, the situation.

posted February 01, 2021 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I really doubt that has anything to do with Biden and his admin. There hasn't really been enough time and enough changes yet to attribute anything to him. And that is not how pandemics work anyways.

Also, you can't have it both ways. I have noticed that both you and others in this forum section that strongly identify with the right, have said, implied, suggested, etc and multiple times, that not all these deaths are strictly Covid caused deaths.

That, I actually can agree with, though like everyone else I'm in the dark about exact numbers. The CDC has been "cooking the books" since March 2020 with their mandates.

Hence, logically speaking, you can't have it "both ways". Either all of the deaths have been primarily Covid, or it's more nuanced and complex, and the numbers are likely skewed to at least some extent.

Dude, you really need to get out of this group think belief system bubble you are in. You and Blue Roamer, Teasel, etc are FAR, FAR more similar than you realize in some respects. It's like the "devout" atheist and the devout, extremist religious person, also have more in common than they realize. They both fervently believe without objectively looking at all the data.

You guys are just different sides of the same coin in these group think, belief system bubbles you are in.

You think this "evolution" of this in this country was completely by accident? Nah, the plutocrats, since the earlier days, have been hiring very clever and psychologically learned, people like Edward Bernays, to help them in their purposes to divide and manipulate the common people into two VERY polarized factions i.e. the modern "right" and "left". Because, as long as they are infighting and fighting each other, they don't and won't put their focus on where it really needs to be..on them.

You strike me as intelligent enough to understand this core truth, and yet you persist in going along with this charade? Why? Is it just about emotional attachment and that you grew up in a certain area, in a certain family, and it's hard to let go of the childhood conditioning you've been through?

Or are you actively trying to support the plutocrats and this polarization and division among us commoners? Because if that is not what you are trying to do consciously, it most certainly is what you are doing unconsciously.

The way out of this mess of being so controlled and manipulated by these billionaires, is for us non elites, non billionaires on the left and right to come together, and realize that we have FAR MORE in common with EACH OTHER than we do with those psychopathic billionaire plutocrat aholes who are basically in the process of creating a "soft" global slave system that ONLY benefits them and their cronies i.e. all the wealth, resources, and power concentrated into the hands of the controlling relative few.

Why would you want to help them in their efforts? Why contribute to the weakening of the common person and masses? Why not try to build bridges instead and strengthen unity between us common, non elite peoples? Why so much energy and time wasted in vitriol against the "left", when the people here you are talking to are not politicians, and the politicians themselves don't actually care about these labels?

To be honest, all of you people in this forum section, both on the left and the right, that are wasting time and energy in this inane, pointless infighting, are acting like irrational, over emotional children. Truly and seriously, like grow the f@ck up already and start using your Source given brains and start partaking in trying to actually help, rather than hinder, the situation.

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Yep, took the words out of my mouth.

posted February 01, 2021 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
Yep, took the words out of my mouth.

I just don’t have to time or desire to write it down.

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posted February 01, 2021 07:30 PM            

We know for a fact that Trump, for example, was a long time democrat and hob knobbed/socialized with the Clintons prior to his political career.

Just one elite hanging out with other elites. Neither of them that care one whit about you or me, or any of the commoners on this site (or in general).

posted February 01, 2021 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I really doubt that has anything to do with Biden and his admin. There hasn't really been enough time and enough changes yet to attribute anything to him. And that is not how pandemics work anyways.

Also, you can't have it both ways. I have noticed that both you and others in this forum section that strongly identify with the right, have said, implied, suggested, etc and multiple times, that not all these deaths are strictly Covid caused deaths.

That, I actually can agree with, though like everyone else I'm in the dark about exact numbers. The CDC has been "cooking the books" since March 2020 with their mandates.

Hence, logically speaking, you can't have it "both ways". Either all of the deaths have been primarily Covid, or it's more nuanced and complex, and the numbers are likely skewed to at least some extent.

Dude, you really need to get out of this group think belief system bubble you are in. You and Blue Roamer, Teasel, etc are FAR, FAR more similar than you realize in some respects. It's like the "devout" atheist and the devout, extremist religious person, also have more in common than they realize. They both fervently believe without objectively looking at all the data.

You guys are just different sides of the same coin in these group think, belief system bubbles you are in.

You think this "evolution" of this in this country was completely by accident? Nah, the plutocrats, since the earlier days, have been hiring very clever and psychologically learned, people like Edward Bernays, to help them in their purposes to divide and manipulate the common people into two VERY polarized factions i.e. the modern "right" and "left". Because, as long as they are infighting and fighting each other, they don't and won't put their focus on where it really needs to be..on them.

You strike me as intelligent enough to understand this core truth, and yet you persist in going along with this charade? Why? Is it just about emotional attachment and that you grew up in a certain area, in a certain family, and it's hard to let go of the childhood conditioning you've been through?

Or are you actively trying to support the plutocrats and this polarization and division among us commoners? Because if that is not what you are trying to do consciously, it most certainly is what you are doing unconsciously.

The way out of this mess of being so controlled and manipulated by these billionaires, is for us non elites, non billionaires on the left and right to come together, and realize that we have FAR MORE in common with EACH OTHER than we do with those psychopathic billionaire plutocrat aholes who are basically in the process of creating a "soft" global slave system that ONLY benefits them and their cronies i.e. all the wealth, resources, and power concentrated into the hands of the controlling relative few.

Why would you want to help them in their efforts? Why contribute to the weakening of the common person and masses? Why not try to build bridges instead and strengthen unity between us common, non elite peoples? Why so much energy and time wasted in vitriol against the "left", when the people here you are talking to are not politicians, and the politicians themselves don't actually care about these labels?

To be honest, all of you people in this forum section, both on the left and the right, that are wasting time and energy in this inane, pointless infighting, are acting like irrational, over emotional children. Truly and seriously, like grow the f@ck up already and start using your Source given brains and start partaking in trying to actually help, rather than hinder, the situation.

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posted February 01, 2021 10:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
That was precisely my point. Biden promised a solution, blamed 400,000 deaths on President Trump, and the virus is doing what viruses do no matter what our response to it is.

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Except that we can do our part, and do our best to stop the spread, but some of you don't want to. It's as simple as that. If that weren't the case, we might all be able to get on the same page, and handle the increasing mental health crisis, as well as the fact that people are losing their homes and are starving, and that these conspiracy theories in the forum, that are now mainstream political theatre, are contributing to the mental health issues - both when it comes to people isolating and/or in financial trouble, and those who are immersed in things like the cult of Q, that are also forciing it onto the rest of us.

If this wasn't affecting the rest of the country, and the world, I wouldn't be here arguing about it. I used to ignore a lot of things, because they were just on the internet, or on a radio show, but they weren't actively dangerous, so it wasn't something to worry about. It is now. That's the difference. We aren't children, we're adults dealing with those living in an alternate reality, led by Grump.

posted February 01, 2021 11:53 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Sure, and I get that. But why not get out of the contrived WWE drama of two sides fake fighting?

We know for a fact that Trump, for example, was a long time democrat and hob knobbed/socialized with the Clintons prior to his political career.

Just one elite hanging out with other elites. Neither of them that care one whit about you or me, or any of the commoners on this site (or in general).

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Duality is a helluva drug

posted February 02, 2021 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by shura:
Duality is a helluva drug

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Tis indeed.