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posted March 02, 2021 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.theepochtimes.com/fbi-cannot-disclose-the-cause-of-death-of-officer-brian-sicknick-director-wray_3717323.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2 021-03-02-2

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posted March 02, 2021 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plot thickens.

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posted March 03, 2021 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(That website requires a paid-subscription.)


He got clobbered in the head by a thug using a fire-extinguisher.

Anyone with a little life-experience could figure that one out.

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posted March 03, 2021 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
(That website requires a paid-subscription.)


He got clobbered in the head by a thug using a fire-extinguisher.

Anyone with a little life-experience could figure that one out.


First, Epoch Times does not require a subscription.
Second, The fire extinguisher bashing was a fake news story.
Third, The FBI, Capitol Police need to come clean about the officer's pathology examination, who authorized his cremation...and why he was cremated. If his family requested cremation or authorized cremation, then just say so.

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posted March 03, 2021 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Epoch asks for but does not require any payment. The fire extinguisher story was made up by the media. They had to retract it.

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posted March 03, 2021 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Epoch blocks my access without an agreement (cookie?) to be subscribing later.

Epoch is heavily skewed to right-wing. I remembered when they first started advertising-- looked interesting, until they "spoiled" my "liking" moment by continuing their ad with something truly repulsive. I was so disappointed.

Many of the urls you present here are FROM conspiracy-bent trump-only sources.

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Around two Christmases/NewYear's ago, my computer was hijacked by protrump supporters. They had broken-through our firewalls? Converted long-time astrological desktop shortcuts I used each week, into redirects TO trumper youtubes/website...
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(I wondered if perhaps one of the urls I clicked from here planted a cookie? -- Or that maybe the person's youtube channel had been hacked and seized? -- Bottom line was that it was an unwanted invasion.)

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So, I searched for what you said in the regular news, and found one reporting that they weren't exactly sure if the 'injuries' the officer died-from came from the rioter spraying a fire-extinguisher in the area in front of Senate chamber.

I'm not familiar with the part of the news talking about Sicknick's cremation. My question there would be whether he belonged to a religious sect that bury/burn their dead almost immediately after the individual's passing?

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posted March 03, 2021 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is not new information. Can't imagine why anyone still clings to the fake news story that Sicknick was killed with a fire extinguisher by a Trump supporter.


PolitiFact Finally Admits Brian Sicknick Not Killed by Fire Extinguisher
JOHN NOLTE
23 Feb 2021

The far-left PolitiFact, a fake fact-checking site run by the far-left Poynter Institute, waited until this week, long after former President Trump’s impeachment trial was over, to finally admit Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick was not beaten to death with a fire extinguisher by a Trump supporter.
http://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2021/02/23/nolte-politifact-finally-admits-brian-sicknick-not-killed-by-fire-extinguisher/

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posted March 03, 2021 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Epoch Times is a legitimate news source. It does not install spyware or malware. Cookies are not malicious and do not damage a computer. Most sites use cookies. Cookies allow sites to improve the users’ experience, such as recognizing users, so users don’t have to keep logging in. So-called “tracking” cookies from big sites like Google can keep track of your purchases to tailor their ads to you. Some people may consider that intrusive. Some people like personalized ads. Cookies were not responsible for changing your computer to route you to Trump sites. That sounds like a virus.

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posted March 04, 2021 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
(That website requires a paid-subscription.)


He got clobbered in the head by a thug using a fire-extinguisher.

Anyone with a little life-experience could figure that one out.



mirage, are you aware that the new york times has retracted or "updated" its story about the fire-extinguisher hitting him in the head?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new- york-times-quietly-updates-report-on-fire-extinguisher-striking-capitol-police-officer/ar-BB1dG92n

Even CNN no longer mentions the "death by fire extinguisher" story:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/politics/brian-sicknick-investigation/index.html

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posted March 06, 2021 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, Thanks for describing more about the power of 'cookies'. .. About a month after the proTrump highjack of one of my desktop short-cuts finally resolved, I learned that the astrologer involved had HAD a highjack of her website. She had to close her channel down, then start anew. So, it might have been introduced into my computer through her end. We have two companies that work on saving this computer from harming influences.

Belage, thanks for those two urls. In the earlier post I mentioned I had checked that story out on another website and the information was corroborated.


Early last week, I had a dream with trump in it--
A small visiting carnival had rolled into town. It was early afternoon and they were setting-up equipment and test-operating some rides on the grounds of this older building I was in. I knew by architecture that this building had once been a church parochial school.
I was in a green room. Interesting shaped window had darker brown shellacked wood trim. Atmosphere was quiet in the room, and I had a sense of having been waiting there a really long time {for what?, I don't know}. It was a larger room and further over, a few others had milled in and out a hallway door, in conversation. All had left, except one. I recognized him as trump, dressed in darker street-clothes as an ordinary citizen. I went over to where he was. Said something quietly cordial to him, and he gently reciprocated. (We both waited. Hardly spoke. Never said a word regarding politics. .. He seemed inward and soberly preoccupied.)
(Dream had a pleasant feel to it--no heavy stress.)

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posted March 06, 2021 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting dream you had, mirage.

I don't think I've ever had a dream of Trump...

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posted March 06, 2021 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was at my mom's house for a couple of hours, and with just two hours of MSNBC, I can tell why so many people hate President Trump.

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posted March 07, 2021 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall.. I wanted to respond after you posted this.

First, I'm happy to hear that your mom is okay.
I ALWAYS think of her during the Easter months. We've had conversations in other threads about the kinds of past-activities she and her group get involved-in-- the sacrifices they make for the sake of the community, at this time each year.
I personally KNOW the amount of labor and prep that goes into what her group does-- hosting people who come to church FOR this Holiday/Holy-Day. ..

And you've already disclosed the surprise that your general family vote as registered Democrats.

So, on the visit to your mom, I'm glad you got some exposure. Yesterday was Saturday. Saturday's line-up on MSNBC is not their usual-set. These are the more-junior people making the efforts to rise up in the ranks.

After I read your post, I was empathizing with how you must be feeling.

They are not into the hatred of Trump? (sad)..
Trump has made some grievous mistakes--
He doesn't have the ability to Understand the importance of what the Government IS with a complete understanding of what it does. WHAT it was Created for!
.. It's NOT a Business.
It's NOT a Corporation.
Running Government as though it were-- leads to human crises and disasters, when those arise. It's part of the role of Government to coordinate and keep-alive its citizens.
In the past, it was 'designed' to function that way.

See Government as a Living Organism.

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So, while I was thinking about what you said, and your sad-face, an analogy popped into my mind.

It might help you to understand Government by thinking about its functions as parts of your own body.

When I read the scriptures of Paul comparing The Body of Christ with the functioning of the parts of the Church, I thought it was an apt analogy to understanding how the Government functions.

1 Corinthians Chapter 12,
the writer (Paul) was talking about the institution called The Church, making an analogy--
comparing the church to being and functioning AS a Whole Living Body.
WE are The Body of Christ on the Earth.
Every individual's part, is AS-important as the other.
If some of these factors are off, then it can affect the Whole.

{Stub your little toe, and the WHOLE Body can immediately be affected!}


1 Corinthian Chapter 12
- http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2012&version=NIV

Lesson on
Unity and Diversity
analogy to the functioning of The Church
as a Living Human Body

(the number identifies/locates the verse)

12 Just as a body, though one, has many parts,
but 'all its many parts' form one body,
so it is with Christ. <Government>
. . . <skip>

14 Even so -- the body is not made up of one part, but of many.

15 Now if the foot should say,
“Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,”
it would not (for that reason) stop being part-of-the-body.

16 And if the ear should say,
“Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,”
it would not (for that reason) stop being part of the body.

17 If the whole body were an eye,
where would the sense of hearing be?
If the whole body were an ear,
where would the sense of smell be?

18 But in fact--
God <Early Founders of US>
has placed 'the parts' IN the body,
(every one of them),
just as he wanted them to be.

19 If they were all [just]-one part <partisan group>,
where would the 'body' be?

20 As it is,
there are many parts,
but one <bipartisan> body.

21 The eye cannot say to the hand,
“I don’t need you!”
And the head cannot say to the feet,
“I don’t need you!”

22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that 'seem to be' weaker are indispensable,
23 and the parts that we think are 'less' honorable
we treat with special honor.

And the parts that are unpresentable
are treated with special modesty,
24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment.

But God has put 'the body' together,
giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it,
25 so that there should be
no division in the body,
but that
its parts should have equal concern for each other.

26 If one part suffers,
every part suffers with it;
if one part is honored,
every part rejoices with it.

27 Now [collective]you are the body of Christ,
and each one of you is a 'part' of it.
. .


Our Government is as an alive-organism.
Each 'part' {departments, etc} does its function, and ADDS to the Whole.

Our Founders drafted and constructed the huge puzzle of it to Serve.. The People.

History--
We had gone through a terrible crisis in the early 1900s, and had to invent different types of Social Programs to keep The People who were struggling, alive--
They went further to set-up safety-nets that ensure survival for all Americans in the future-- they had Vision. They formed a long-range plan showing foresight about potential swings of Capitalism.

The 1900's had an early vicious pandemic-- Not only was it here in the USA, but infected the World at large.
. .
The leaders and historians observed two World-Wars--
With insight, they identified specific errors that led to the rise of an evil dictatorship; they pinpointed the pattern of slick subtle errors made by 1900's Germany-government--
It led to the forming of Nazi militia groups,
that were a 'base of support' for Hitler's rise as a terrible lone-power
(not a good man)

Cycles---
So in the immediate time-period in OUR US government,
after 2000 we found ourselves becoming more and more 'partisan'. It used to be, that the parties chose their candidates, but once they were Seated, they were expected to act on the behalf of ALL. They represented the concerns of each in the WHOLE of making laws that Serve the WHOLE in a safe and fair way!

Randall... gently,
Trump really-truly does NOT have a holistic understanding of what the purpose of Government is.
Because of that, he's {unknowingly?} mishandled things.
He {didn't know} that he had a lack of knowledge and extremely limited education FOR a job in Government. This shouldn't have mattered but-- He stubbornly {foolishly} did not accept the help that was available to him in his beginning days. ..
His inaugural speech was SHOCKING!!
HE began his speech with reveal of 'the hatred' and 'divisive' spirit inside him; he pits ONE entire party {Dems} as EVIL. ... That is FAR from The Truth. WAY far...

Right now, we have a new admin.
Biden has a Heart FOR The People.
He has a background of NOT being raised in privilege. Because of that, he sees what's wrong right now, and is attempting to assist the poor and middle-class that is SEVERLY affected by Capitalism on STEROIDS. Economically VERY unbalanced.

Former admin .. doesn't have the ability to empathize because of being raised in Wealth. He just couldn't realize how BAD things ARE for the poor and economically-disadvantaged. They can't 'make enough money' in THIS age, to afford even the BASIC things right now. This has needed attention!

He's lived a life of having EVERYTHING handed to him. He does not have the 'experience-bank' {nor an inborn ability to resonate/empathize} with folks that have NOT.

You had mentioned the way 'elites' live in other thread(s). They have no clue-- unless they were born with a sensitivity, and feel a duty to share {because of how MUCH they have}-- they want to Do for Others. Reduce suffering in this world.

Something SUPER unfair, is that most of the legislators are of the Wealth classes... They pay LITTLE tax, compared to economically average Americans. ALL these OBSESSIONS about Tax Cuts-- HURTS the Average American and RAISES their OWN Wealth.


I want to congratulate you for sitting through two hours of MSNBC. For increasing your ability to SEE, Randall. SEE from another point of view. ... Seriously, most regular Americans NEED the Balancing of Government, of the importance of listening to the truth of the PLIGHT of people right now!!!

Awaken to ACTING on the Right Thing to Do for ALL Americans.

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Wishing her HEALTH and an Amazing Long Life.
-- What sign is she?


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posted March 07, 2021 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I respectfully disagree. While President Trump could certainly be less abrasive, he has successfully accomplished much. You will begin to see a stark difference with the Biden administration when gas and energy prices continue to rise, as just one example. We were energy independent, but now we are going back to buying oil from countries that hate us. I could go on and on, but I'll stop there. MSNBC was almost rabid in the way they went after President Trump--most of which was just factually untrue. My mom is a Libra.

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posted March 07, 2021 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your comment.

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posted March 07, 2021 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
I respectfully disagree. While President Trump could certainly be less abrasive, he has successfully accomplished much. You will begin to see a stark difference with the Biden administration when gas and energy prices continue to rise, as just one example. We were energy independent, but now we are going back to buying oil from countries that hate us. I could go on and on, but I'll stop there. MSNBC was almost rabid in the way they went after President Trump--most of which was just factually untrue. My mom is a Libra.

I guess you experienced how many of us feel, with family members who have been radicalized by Fox News.

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posted March 07, 2021 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you missed the point I was making. Are you admitting that MSNBC radicalizes the left?

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posted March 16, 2021 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two people sprayed him in the face with bear spray.

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posted March 16, 2021 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two people have been arrested, as have a lot more, for more than attacking police officers (which also happened).

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posted March 16, 2021 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Such as?

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posted March 17, 2021 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What were they arrested for?

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posted March 17, 2021 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
What were they arrested for?

Let no more be heard about officer Sicknick being bashed to death by a Trump supporter with a fire extinguisher.
http://www.revolver.news/2021/03/january-6-n arrative-collapse-assault-charges-spell-problems-for-doj-fbi-in-officer-sicknick-case/

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