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Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted March 20, 2021 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought this was a really helpful read.

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Well, here’s the thing – it turns out that chromosomally, cellularly, and biologically, sex and gender are not black and white, not easily defined, and are often fluid. And that’s not even layering a social or psychological aspect on top of it all.

Don’t believe me? Good, you shouldn’t – I’m a writer, not a biologist!

But Rebecca R. Helm is a biologist, and she recently tweeted an insanely insightful thread about how complicated it can be to classifying biological gender.

The best way to combat confusion is with knowledge, so buckle up and let’s go for a little learning ride, shall we?

First, she acknowledges that, on the outside, determining one’s biological sex might seem simple....


http://www.google.com/amp/s/didyouknowfacts.com/biology-professor-breaks-down-why-defining-sex-and-gender-is-actually-not-simple-at-all/amp/

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posted March 20, 2021 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gender fluidity is a biological reality for a small minority of people. It is not the norm. It is the exception.

Humanity has been dwelling on this earth for about 200,000 years as hunters and hunter gatherers, and in the past 12,000 years started settling down in agricultural societies. All this time, there is no documented evidence of any society where most biological males did not identify as males and where most biological females did not identify as females. Why is that?


Where is the evidence that gender fluidity was the NORM in any human society whatsoever? It may have been accepted or tolerated, but was it THE NORM IN ANY SOCIETY? And if by any chance after going through every human society with a fine tooth comb and finding one or two where this was the norm, wouldn't they constitute exceptions, looking at the larger body of human societies?

New science asserting biological sex and gender is complicated and that gender fluidity is the norm, this is not backed up by any evidence in the field of human evolution, no matter how many X and Y they permute.

Scientists with agendas and microscopic views are taking the exception of gender fluidity and elevating it to norm.

Now, I want to emphasize that I do not agree with judging people who are born gender fluid or penalizing them for their biology. I am very much of a live and let live kind of person. Unless people born as males start competing in sports against people born female, then I have a problem.

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posted March 25, 2021 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is interesting to be that there were no transgender transitions until 2008 when Obama's partner began elevating the issue. in 2008 there were some transgender transitions which means surgically removing or altering sex organs.then transgender exploded.

Clearly a political motivates mind psychOP.

Not only human nature but the fauna of the world( with a few exceptions ,lizards and singular sharks)increase their populations by male and female members.
This transgender psycho fiction is a product of those like bill gates who want to decrease the population.
There have been gay people from the beginning bog civilization, so same sex preference is not the issue.
But when children as young as 4 are given drugs to delay puberty so that sex can be manipulated, one needs to look at the psyches of the adults who are pushing this idea.
It is common for a child to want to be of the opposite sex.but this infantile dream is usually grown out of.homosexuality is a part of the human condition but using drugs and surgery to instill sexually is obscene.

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posted March 27, 2021 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
It is interesting to be that there were no transgender transitions until 2008 when Obama's partner began elevating the issue. in 2008 there were some transgender transitions which means surgically removing or altering sex organs.then transgender exploded.

Clearly a political motivates mind psychOP.

Not only human nature but the fauna of the world( with a few exceptions ,lizards and singular sharks)increase their populations by male and female members.
This transgender psycho fiction is a product of those like bill gates who want to decrease the population.
There have been gay people from the beginning bog civilization, so same sex preference is not the issue.
But when children as young as 4 are given drugs to delay puberty so that sex can be manipulated, one needs to look at the psyches of the adults who are pushing this idea.
It is common for a child to want to be of the opposite sex.but this infantile dream is usually grown out of.homosexuality is a part of the human condition but using drugs and surgery to instill sexually is obscene.


there were people who transitioned prior to 2008, sex changes are not that recent of a thing, it's something that dates back much further

i personally don't agree with transition as a medical treatment, and i'm completely against it for kids (i don't care what people do to their bodies when it comes to elective surgeries however and am not against adults taking hormones if they want etc) as i see it as something that will potentially be the equivalent of lobotomies in the future

just you know... factually wrong to claim this only became a thing then when if you actually look it up the first attempt at a sex change surgery was around 1960

yes the issue being elevated made for more transitions because visibility can equate with acceptance and awareness, but it's also the way the transgender community tends to operate that pushes the issue

they push transition on each other as a one size fits all means way of dealing and destroy the goalposts of even needing to experience some kind of bodily dysphoria at this point

they also actively silence people who regret transition or speak about alternative means of dealing with the issue etc

there are politics involved yes, vulnerable individuals with a disorder being used as tools to push agendas but the disorder itself has existed for a very long time its expression and treatment have changed with technology but that can be said for all kinds of disorders


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todd
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posted March 27, 2021 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
there were people who transitioned prior to 2008, sex changes are not that recent of a thing, it's something that dates back much further

i personally don't agree with transition as a medical treatment, and i'm completely against it for kids (i don't care what people do to their bodies when it comes to elective surgeries however and am not against adults taking hormones if they want etc) as i see it as something that will potentially be the equivalent of lobotomies in the future

just you know... factually wrong to claim this only became a thing then when if you actually look it up the first attempt at a sex change surgery was around 1960

yes the issue being elevated made for more transitions because visibility can equate with acceptance and awareness, but it's also the way the transgender community tends to operate that pushes the issue

they push transition on each other as a one size fits all means way of dealing and destroy the goalposts of even needing to experience some kind of bodily dysphoria at this point

they also actively silence people who regret transition or speak about alternative means of dealing with the issue etc

there are politics involved yes, vulnerable individuals with a disorder being used as tools to push agendas but the disorder itself has existed for a very long time its expression and treatment have changed with technology but that can be said for all kinds of disorders


You are confusing sex change with transgender transition.
Christine Jorgenson was one of the firsthand most famous trqnseduals..but she did not start be ng vhemicalsvto stop her puberty when shecwws 4 years old.the specified v designation of transgender transition did not occur before 2008.
The academy of pediatricians labelled transgender transition as child abuse.

What the ghoul advocatesvof transgender transition do not talk about is the high rate of suicide and mental issues among the transitioned population.

It is normal for some young children to want to be of the opposite sex.but to take a 4 year old girl who likes boys toys and then use drugs to alter their body chemistry and counsel them that they really are little boys is insane.

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