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LuckyLeo
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posted May 20, 2021 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Because they made a pandemic political. They made masks political, and conspiracy theories were pushed. It’s insane. I understand wanting to be safe, I don’t understand the rest of it. There are grump supporters who want him to get the credit for the vaccine being available, and ready for the roll-out, and at the same time, are stating there is something wrong with it, and they shouldn’t be trusted. Someone explain that to me. There’s something malicious and evil behind the roll-out of a vaccine that grump claims he fast-tracked, so the Democrats shouldn’t be trusted? Make it make sense.

I don’t know anyone like you described. I know several people who voted for Trump who got the vaccine as soon as they could, some even driving over an hour to get it. To me, it is not really a political issue.

When people insist that Trump be given credit for getting the vaccine developed in “warp speed,” I think it’s just giving credit where credit is due. I guess there are people who think Trump should be credited for his actual accomplishments, but don’t want the vaccine yet, or ever. I don’t think these things contradict each other.

Anyway, heath goes beyond politics and the reason I posted is because I wanted to point out the shifting standards for what we consider normal. Not too long ago, trying to force or shame someone into taking a medication that had not yet received full FDA approval would not have seemed OK. Look at how quickly our standards change.

By the way, Teasel, I agree with you on your point about not trusting the FDA. But it’s the standard that we have in this country and it’s something that has traditionally been respected. If someone doesn’t trust the FDA, I would think they trust the pharmaceutical companies even less (considering they are a major reason why we can’t trust the FDA to begin with). So I think if someone is skeptical of the FDA they are probably at least a bit wary of these vaccines too.

And, you’re right, almost all of the pharmaceutical drugs have nasty side effects. Thank goodness we have regulations that require the manufacturers to disclose the side effects otherwise all we would hear is every new drug is a wonder drug with no side effects whatsoever.

This is why we should be proceeding with more caution with these vaccines, not less. Allow TIME to see what happens with the people who have taken it. Especially when two of the vaccines are being made with technology they have not used before in vaccines (mRNA)....this should warrant more time to observe the population who has been injected, not less. We should also value the idea of having a control group (an unvaccinated segment of the population) so we can gather true and accurate data long term. These concerns go beyond politics, they are concerns that affect us all.

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iQ
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posted May 25, 2021 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many here have taken the mRNA Vaccine?

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teasel
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posted May 25, 2021 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thread: http://twitter.com/Gaohmee/status/1396129269839896577?s=20

Sharing, because I have no desire to go around this again and again.

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teasel
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posted May 25, 2021 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We aren’t out of the woods yet, and all I can think, when I think about the past fourteen months is “what the hell was that?!” Deliberate chaos, because of the madman who was in the White House, and mass death, because of a new virus. People claiming as they suffocated to death from covid, that it was all a hoax to make trump look bad.

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jwhop
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posted May 25, 2021 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
We aren’t out of the woods yet, and all I can think, when I think about the past fourteen months is “what the hell was that?!” Deliberate chaos, because of the madman who was in the White House, and mass death, because of a new virus. People claiming as they suffocated to death from covid, that it was all a hoax to make trump look bad.

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS)..and, it's easy to spot who caught it.

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Belage
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posted May 27, 2021 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
How many here have taken the mRNA Vaccine?

Good question.

No one has come forward to say that they did. But I may be mistaken. I think in another thread, Placidus_Domingo said he and his mom or grandmother took it.

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